R Kelly Sex Cult

Kung Fu

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Working doesn't make one an adult and technically they are still in the cusp of puberty.
I could post everything an adult does here and you would still say "it doesn't make one an adult". We have 8 year old kids in Thailand that fight for a living to support their families, we have kids in Afghanistan as young as 5 selling gum on the streets to help feed their families, we have 12 year old males in the Philipines literally taking care of the family because the father isn't there and yet you're here telling me that 18 and 19 year olds females who have gone through puberty are too dumb to make decisions for themselves? Please for the love of God feed this drivel to someone more gullible.
 

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Still... Teenagers are very inmature people, they're a bit dumb for their florishing age. So one person could take advantage of that. It's not evil to have dreams.

"I see piss coming I move, she saw piss coming she stayed". A 7 year old knows to move out of the way when someone is trying to piss on them or throw something at them but yet 19 year olds who want to whore themselves out for money and fame and know perfectly well what they have to do for it are dumb and shouldn't have to make thos decisions for themselves, right?
 

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I know what a cult is. Who said anything about Aaliyah? I'm talking about the girls in the article. Also, where were Aaliyah's parents?
You can't discuss the r Kelly situation without discussing Aaliyah. She was also mentioned in the article btw.

Abusers seek out damaged victims. He likes them young. Always has. Now he's just using barely legal girls with the same exact mo. He is an abuser and a sexual predator. That shouldn't be overlooked because the victims are a month past their 18th birthday.
 

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You can't discuss the r Kelly situation without discussing Aaliyah. She was also mentioned in the article btw.

Abusers seek out damaged victims. He likes them young. Always has. Now he's just using barely legal girls with the same exact mo. He is an abuser and a sexual predator. That shouldn't be overlooked because the victims are a month past their 18th birthday.
I'm not denying that he isn't and I definitely don't like the guy but we have no idea what exactly he's doing to these grown girls. These women and men know that if they want to make it big they're going to have to do a lot of things that they might not want to do.
 

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When there's smoke there's typically fire and with Kelly this is numerous times, same type of smoke.

These girls are of age, now. Many weren't when he first met them and started luring them.

Historically his girls weren't of age at all.
 

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I could post everything an adult does here and you would still say "it doesn't make one an adult". We have 8 year old kids in Thailand that fight for a living to support their families, we have kids in Afghanistan as young as 5 selling gum on the streets to help feed their families, we have 12 year old males in the Philipines literally taking care of the family because the father isn't there and yet you're here telling me that 18 and 19 year olds females who have gone through puberty are too dumb to make decisions for themselves? Please for the love of God feed this drivel to someone more gullible.
I never said they were too sums
When there's smoke there's typically fire and with Kelly this is numerous times, same type of smoke.

These girls are of age, now. Many weren't when he first met them and started luring them.

Historically his girls weren't of age at all.
Precisely.

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I'm saying what Jess is saying and saying that this man approached these girls under age and lures them in. They call him Daddy, they turn away from men, they get abused for showing a can driver attention. He might not he might be an MK handler and you see them as whoring themselves out when that quite possibly wasn't their intention and they ended up in a situation beyond their control.

You cute extreme examples of children put in situations where they either eat or die. We're talking, presumably, young American black girls that come from an entirely decadent and coddled culture. An 18 year old is not an adult and more so when Kelly approached these women before they were 18 they were certainly not adults.

We're getting a glimpse of the end result of these women being manipulated and possible MKed by Kelly and not seeing what tempted them and what transpired while they were minors. It's not difficult to break an adult and even less difficult to break a child and then there is the possibility these girls were sold by their parents or guardians.

Were some or all of these girls whoring themselves out? Maybe

Were these girls aware of what they had gotten into? We don't know

Is there evidence of abuse and p***philia? It's Kelly for God's sake.

Then look he married a young girl at 15 whose father of I remember was ex military and that same girl proceeded to go from handler to handler until her untimely death.

These girls might be innocent, they could be guilty of fucking for fame but the point is they are abused and seemingly part of the Golden Shower Cult and that's what's under scrutiny. They don't deserve what they got under Kelly and believing that they did for whatever reason makes a person as bad as Kelly.
 

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I'm saying what Jess is saying and saying that this man approached these girls under age and lures them in. They call him Daddy, they turn away from men, they get abused for showing a can driver attention. He might not he might be an MK handler and you see them as whoring themselves out when that quite possibly wasn't their intention and they ended up in a situation beyond their control.
16, 17, 18, 19, and etc, are old enough to know that travelling to a different state to meet a stranger is a bad idea but these women wanted fame and they didn't care how they got it. Of course, it's not their intention to whore themselves out but it's a by product of their original intention, which is fame. For the love of God at the age of 7 I knew to move out of the way if someone was trying to piss on me and I certainly knew not to get in the car with strangers when I was a teenager.

You cute extreme examples of children put in situations where they either eat or die. We're talking, presumably, young American black girls that come from an entirely decadent and coddled culture. An 18 year old is not an adult and more so when Kelly approached these women before they were 18 they were certainly not adults.
I used those examples to prove a point. You might not like to think that 18 year olds are adults but they are. Me as a kid of the age of 7 made rational logical decisions based on my wants and needs but yet these 18 year olds are not rationa and or logical. I don't buy it for a second. These girls knew perfectly well that all the shit he was offering wasn't free. Nothing in this world is free.

These girls might be innocent, they could be guilty of fucking for fame but the point is they are abused and seemingly part of the Golden Shower Cult and that's what's under scrutiny. They don't deserve what they got under Kelly and believing that they did for whatever reason makes a person as bad as Kelly.
Of course, their guilty for thinking that they could get famous if they just let him fuck them. Anyone who tries to get anywhere by selling their ass deserves whatever they get.
 

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16, 17, 18, 19, and etc, are old enough to know that travelling to a different state to meet a stranger is a bad idea but these women wanted fame and they didn't care how they got it. Of course, it's not their intention to whore themselves out but it's a by product of their original intention, which is fame. For the love of God at the age of 7 I knew to move out of the way if someone was trying to piss on me and I certainly knew not to get in the car with strangers when I was a teenager.


I used those examples to prove a point. You might not like to think that 18 year olds are adults but they are. Me as a kid of the age of 7 made rational logical decisions based on my wants and needs but yet these 18 year olds are not rationa and or logical. I don't buy it for a second. These girls knew perfectly well that all the shit he was offering wasn't free. Nothing in this world is free.



Of course, their guilty for thinking that they could get famous if they just let him fuck them. Anyone who tries to get anywhere by selling their ass deserves whatever they get.
Do you have a problem with women? Just asking. But you got a point, famous people made famous through sex is pathetic.
 
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Anyone who tries to get anywhere by selling their ass deserves whatever they get.
Idk, in my opinion out of all the crimes that should have a harsh punishment, trading sex for something isn't one of them. Sex and abuse are two different things, and being naive and trading sex for a spotlight isn't really worthy of abuse. At least in my eyes it isn't.
 

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Do you have any proof they were prostituting themselves
What else did you think these girls were thinking when they decided to fly out and meet a stranger? I don't believe for a second that these girls thought that R Kelly would just fly them over and make them famous for free.

Since we're on the topic of proof what proof do you have that these girls are actually being controlled through force by R Kelly besides their word?
 

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Idk, in my opinion out of all the crimes that should have a harsh punishment, trading sex for something isn't one of them. Sex and abuse are two different things, and being naive and trading sex for a spotlight isn't really worthy of abuse. At least in my eyes it isn't.
I'm not saying the state should do the punishing. I'm actually not talking about punishment at all. They wanted to become famous and if you want to become famous there are certain things you have to do and when you know you have to do those things than you shouldn't cry about it.
 

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Always will have naive teenagers with the dream to be a model, singer or whatever... and the rest of history everybody knows.
They don't care to be a slave to be famous, because they want live the illusion of "fame and wealth" (the real mind control of society).
 

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Always will have naive teenagers with the dream to be a model, singer or whatever... and the rest of history everybody knows.
They don't care to be a slave to be famous, because they want live the illusion of "fame and wealth" (the real mind control of society).
Bingo. These "impressionable" so called kids (they're really not kids at least not biologically speaking) will do whatever it takes to get that one extra "like" or "follower" and now imagine if they could actually be like Britney Spears herself. Imagine the lines they would cross then and that goes for men as well. Just take a look at Lil Wayne and how many dicks he's probably taken in the back door to be where he is.
 
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