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I understand your plight as an independent blogger and feel that the creation of the Den is for comments that likely riled others at said time. I am not in main line news, but deal with media and have sources who shared much with me around that time. There was an effort to trap and shut down sites. In fact, the same time the forum went down, blowhard Alex Jones removed similar videos relating to PG. Then Milo Y suddenly said his lawyer and DC types encouraged him not to speak of it, which he didn't.after he promised to address the issue. At this time, the former White House types were still in charge Now they are losing a little bit of that power to intimidate.

Still, there is a war raging. SNL went after the aforementioned Jones this past weekend. And there is the big hullabaloo in DC over Trump buying into conspiracies. Add to this that the intimidators are lawyered up to the max and portected by those who want to be protected and there is indeed a forced adherence to avoid telling it like it is.

Site owners have to do what is best for the greater good and those choices are never perfect or easy. It freaked me out when the forums went down in that there was a revealing discussion on the board about the controversial subject matter. It was so easy to see possible false flags and such, but to say so would be spinned as adhering to violence with concern to the guy who went to the P-Joint. They would suddenly brand you as inciting trouble which is hardly the case or intent. Thus, they can attack free speech and squelch many. Nobody suggests anyone take action on their own past exposure but there is always the lunatic fringe that will mess an awakening up.

Anyhow, enough blather on my part, but I personally think VC did what he had to do as did many others that could have lawyered up. Some battles are simply suicidal in nature and it's best to try and navigate around those sneaky traps.
 
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Hello, although not very active I was also present in the old forums.

I wanted to give my opinion about the pizzagate article. First of all, I live in France, and it's pretty rare for local medias (at least, those I read/watch) to quote non-french sites except if they have a solid reputation (NY Times...) and in this case the VC article was quoted a LOT. I think it was the best article out there, well written and very convincing. Perhaps they saw it as a threat ?

As you state, "news articles about that story were 100% about telling people what to think about the story and 0% about explaining what the story was actually about". It was exactly the same thing with french media. Everyone telling something like "it's b***shit, dont believe that stuff" but not actually explaining why. By the way, there are actually rumors about the guy with the gun, some say he was an actor. We'll probably never know though.

What scares me the most is what happened afterwards : "fake-news" is the new weapon of censorship, they took in hand the situation pretty quickly, every social media is now (or will soon) censoring "fake-news" articles, and even Tim Berners Lee sees fake-news as a threat.

Anyway, could you bring back the article with a mention like "warning, the content is actually considered fake-news" or something like that ? I think everyone could benefit.
 

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Hello, although not very active I was also present in the old forums.

I wanted to give my opinion about the pizzagate article. First of all, I live in France, and it's pretty rare for local medias (at least, those I read/watch) to quote non-french sites except if they have a solid reputation (NY Times...) and in this case the VC article was quoted a LOT. I think it was the best article out there, well written and very convincing. Perhaps they saw it as a threat ?

As you state, "news articles about that story were 100% about telling people what to think about the story and 0% about explaining what the story was actually about". It was exactly the same thing with french media. Everyone telling something like "it's b***shit, dont believe that stuff" but not actually explaining why. By the way, there are actually rumors about the guy with the gun, some say he was an actor. We'll probably never know though.

What scares me the most is what happened afterwards : "fake-news" is the new weapon of censorship, they took in hand the situation pretty quickly, every social media is now (or will soon) censoring "fake-news" articles, and even Tim Berners Lee sees fake-news as a threat.

Anyway, could you bring back the article with a mention like "warning, the content is actually considered fake-news" or something like that ? I think everyone could benefit.
Yes the response to this story was coordinated on a worldwide scale. I might put the article back up in the future, we'll see how things evolve.
 

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VC is the youtube channel Vigilant Christian yours?
Because there are certain topics discussed there which arent only wrong but actually extremely disrespectful about God and religion
i tried searching the site but i couldnt manage to find it mentioned anywhere so just making sure
 

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Hi Vigilant C, I started reading your site a few months ago and I gotta give you your props. I love your articles and efforts to expose the rot and ruin of pop culture, as well as the effects it has on society. Now to my question: while reading the section on your site about yourself,you said that you used to work in the music industry iirc, and that was where you first noticed some things that woke you up to how things really were in showbiz and set you on your path to doing what you're doing now. I was wondering if you could share any stories from that time or elaborate more specifically about it? Thanks, and I look forward to posting here more.
 

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VC is the youtube channel Vigilant Christian yours?
Because there are certain topics discussed there which arent only wrong but actually extremely disrespectful about God and religion
i tried searching the site but i couldnt manage to find it mentioned anywhere so just making sure
The Vigilant Christian channel is not mine and I do not endorse any of it (never really watched any of his videos). He's clearly leeching off my work and the name of my site to get YouTube views.
 
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Hi Vigilant C, I started reading your site a few months ago and I gotta give you your props. I love your articles and efforts to expose the rot and ruin of pop culture, as well as the effects it has on society. Now to my question: while reading the section on your site about yourself,you said that you used to work in the music industry iirc, and that was where you first noticed some things that woke you up to how things really were in showbiz and set you on your path to doing what you're doing now. I was wondering if you could share any stories from that time or elaborate more specifically about it? Thanks, and I look forward to posting here more.
Hi,
Thank you for the props. As a music producer, I experienced first hand some processes such as the filming of music videos and the drafting of artist contracts. However I kept far from higher ups of the industry, which is where things get dark and sinister. What truly set me on this path is my years of research and the accounts from people who have been involved in the industry at various levels.
 

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No offense vig.. but I think I don't only speak for myself.

One more time.. I'm out. This is becoming to much of a roller coaster.

I hope you mean what you say and they are really back and will stay back but I guess only time will tell.
 

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Hey VC
I've been a reader/follower for years now much of my own truth has been discovered from your website I would not be the same without it! I was hoping you could do an article similar to your mk ultra mind control techniques but on hypnosis just the basic information you know but also a way for truthers to dive in a little more on the subject like I did with mindcontrol by reading fritz springmieres books anything you recommended will be appreciated! I look forward to being an active member on the new forms we have got a long way to go!
 

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VC... (this is BaronAmity btw if u remember me) can you describe what happened with the Pizzagate thing? I understand you were targeted but- can you go into detail about how exactly you were targeted? What exactly happened? I ask in hope that it would be useful in trying to understand the elite's methodology in targeting independent researchers, understanding how to counter that methodology and knowing what to expect if others choose to follow in your path of exposing the elites.
 

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Also VC, I wanna emphasize that I'mma respect and admire your work pretty much no matter what you do or don't do in the future. I was 19, homeless living in a homeless shelter in the ghetto when I stumbled on your website. This was about four years ago. I showed my friends and it was a big thing in the shelter. It opened whole new avenues of inquiry for me. I had never heard of MK Ultra and I had only the faintest understanding of all the symbolism in the videos. Plus I grew up with Lil Wayne's music and I loved Lil Wayne and wanted to be like him. I was in high school when Tha Carter 3 came out.. Your site made clear to me the demonic nature of this rap music that I thought represented some sort of organic resistance- I had no idea it actually served the machine.
 

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Hi,
Thank you for the props. As a music producer, I experienced first hand some processes such as the filming of music videos and the drafting of artist contracts. However I kept far from higher ups of the industry, which is where things get dark and sinister. What truly set me on this path is my years of research and the accounts from people who have been involved in the industry at various levels.
Are you still a music producer and working in music industry (until now)?
 

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Hey VC, can you please mention a benefit to being 'awake' to all of this?

I often get frustrated with not knowing any way to directly fight against the satanic elite.
The only method seems to be spreading awareness,
but with you being the strongest contender on that front and STILL getting silenced about something as important as pgate?..
That brings me to the point of feeling hopeless about this struggle. Would I be better off completely unaware?
 
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VC is the youtube channel Vigilant Christian yours?
Because there are certain topics discussed there which arent only wrong but actually extremely disrespectful about God and religion
i tried searching the site but i couldnt manage to find it mentioned anywhere so just making sure
Yeah the "Vigilant Christian" must be one of the most irritating channels on YouTube :eek:. I've tried watching it, and it's really painful. He literally can't even... Anyway. It wouldn't surprise me if his channel is meant to p*ss people off and make us all look like idiots :rolleyes:, so it bothers me that people might get the names confused. I've blocked that channel so I don't see his rubbish in my feed anymore. The real VC has his own YT channel. ;)
 
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LOL VC I think this is possibly the dumbest OR wokest question you'll get this week (I literally can't decide).
What is your personal opinion of the flat earth theory(/ies), currently?
Mine is always changing, and I don't know anyone else to ask in seriousness.
I think "they" are totally capable of pulling wool over our eyes to huge scale, but a "global" scale? It boggles the mind. To be clear, I'm just asking if you think the earth might NOT be a globe. I'm not asking about the moon landings, what the moon is made of, where the sun is, etc etc but you can address that stuff too if you like.
Any answer is cool, even "I don't really know, haven't looked into it'
Thx
 
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