BTS discussion thread

[Laura755y]

When we talk about hair colors, we are talking about MK ultra programming (Illegal human experiments done by the CIA that STILL definitely happening). When we talk about s@crifices we are talking about Freem@sonry/witchcr@ft/S@tanism, ancient practices that happen whether you believe it or not. When we talk about ice cream and other sexual codes, it's because we've already discussed pedophili@ rings and sexual sl@very within the world elite.

If you want to criticize something, at least have the decency to read everything and understand where the theories come from. It's not all true, we know that, but don't ignore that there's something wrong going on.

Lets not forget, that theres alot of others symboles that arent decoded still, i read two books about rituals and the experiment that they do on both humans and animals, dude that shit fucked me up, the worse is that they put those shit in movies, songs, adv... thats so fucked up fr.

 

[Berrywon88]

i mentioned a few months back (hello, again!) that there’s something between these two. I noticed their interactions a while ago but it gets buried a lot in 1) skinship, culture, westerners don’t understand this closeness is normal, blah blah, 2) they ALL do this with one another, they grew up together, they’re all close - which is bull, because half of them were damn grown by the time they were recruited, and also there’s closeness because you’re friends and almost like brothers, and then there’s whatever Jn and JayK are doing, and 3) I’m just going to say it - they bat for the same team and are more involved than people realise. Call me a conspiracy theorist, call me delusional, but I’m not Ami and I’m still very much green to K-pop. I’m just seeing what I’m seeing and others see it too. It’s just too weird to all be coincidental or explained by anything else.

Do I think it’s healthy or not riddled with issues, possible power imbalances, codependency? No. Do I think they’re committed and in it for real? Honestly, very hard to say and inclined to peg them as a result of their situation, if that makes sense. Put them out in the real world and they’d probably just drift off back to their corners. Do I think it’s problematic for them to be so showy about it? Look, they’re grown adults (in age) and adults have relationships and do adult things. I don’t think they should have to censor themselves for the sake of the audience - we’re not seeing anything we haven’t seen any of the other members do in some way at some point - and it might even be one way to start ridding themselves of the control the company holds over them. BeeTeeEss aren’t a kids’ group (I know their current musical output might make you think otherwise) and shouldn’t be held to younger audience standards just because that’s their majority or average age.

Your opinions were well said. I of course don't agree with that they shouldn't be held accountable for the content they now show their impressionable young audience. If this was a few yrs back when the older fans made up armies I'd see what you're saying.

And I'll bring one last thing up if you don't mind. I would not have any issues if they were in a normal adult relationship as you and some have said. I only brought them up because of the possible grooming I think was involved with an underage jk. I'm seeing the signs of a relationship that evolved from a predator/victim one. I mentioned the signs in previous posts so I won't go into them again. And these signs were strong enough that I stopped being a fan of jn. Of course I could be wrong and I hope I am. However, I can't help what I see and feel.

 

[ThatGirlX]

@isabee said it best: what was getting derailed? Because it was just shipping stuff; "but understand what you're criticizing" cry me a river, homophobia, this why were fighting and calling each one of you bigots out.

If you're religious, fine, you do you, but when you're being a bigot disguising it as theories and talking about people "lIvInG iN sIn" is where i will call you out and i will disrespect you, and i will be a cruel bitch, if you can't handle people calling out homophobia, just block it. Why am i coming across so pissed and hostile, you might ask? Because my little brother just came out to me a few months ago and people like you have him hating what he is to the point that he plans to live his life in hiding, afraid that his shitty macho man, religious dad will hate him forever because he wants dick, so yes, homophobia is a problem on this thread, may i also remind you guys of transphobic comments made here about Megan Thee Stallion?, i still remember it.

 

[e-Enoch]

I was thinking of taking a few weeks away from this thread then hell broke loose in just a few hours…what a sad fate, lol

Most of us have noticed that this thread gets derailed whenever we’re spot on over something. But, I couldn’t get my head around the specific psychological tricks/strategy some are using to cause conflict.

Are some of you familiar with the game called Mafia or Werewolf?

Werewolves take on the appearance of villagers and kill as many people as possible, without drawing suspicion on themselves.
You modify the scenario a bit and it fits what has been happening on here for the past weeks/months/years.

Is it fair to assume that because VC is not based in *country that shall not be named*, the only thing that can be done is derail this thread as much as possible to gain time? Otherwise, the kpop threads would have disappeared long ago.

What a mess lol

Wow. This is really interesting. I'm not very familiar with Mafia/Werewolf game but I'm quite interested in the social deduction concept of these games...

So I've been praying about this forum, in general, and more recently on some specific matters about this thread... Just a few hours ago, I was impressed with a deep sense that there's a spiritual purging going on... That this may appear "messy" but I felt an assurance that God Almighty is at work... so no need to worry...

Philippians 1:6
New Living Translation

And I am certain that God, who began the good work within you, will continue his work until it is finally finished on the day when Christ Jesus returns.

 

[e-Enoch]

Lets not forget, that theres alot of others symboles that arent decoded still, i read two books about rituals and the experiment that they do on both humans and animals, dude that shit fucked me up, the worse is that they put those shit in movies, songs, adv... thats so fucked up fr.

Oh yes, there's definitely so much more to uncover... we're just on the "surface..." It's much more horrific than we can imagine...

Really praying hard for God's knowledge, wisdom, and discernment... as we try to expose the truth...

 

[isabee]

@isabee said it best: what was getting derailed? Because it was just shipping stuff; "but understand what you're criticizing" cry me a river, homophobia, this why were fighting and calling each one of you bigots out.

If you're religious, fine, you do you, but when you're being a bigot disguising it as theories and talking about people "lIvInG iN sIn" is where i will call you out and i will disrespect you, and i will be a cruel bitch, if you can't handle people calling out homophobia, just block it. Why am i coming across so pissed and hostile, you might ask? Because my little brother just came out to me a few months ago and people like you have him hating what he is to the point that he plans to live his life in hiding, afraid that his shitty macho man, religious dad will hate him forever because he wants dick, so yes, homophobia is a problem on this thread, may i also remind you guys of transphobic comments made here about Megan Thee Stallion?, i still remember it.

sending much love to your brother. and you too - thank you for being a good sister to him, especially as he grapples with all of this. it's not easy to have random strangers (and even more painful, people you know and love) tell you you are an abomination, a mistake, the devil... just because you love / are attracted to someone of the same gender.

so glad i wasn't here for the Megan transphobic comments bc i really don't want to see that sh*t either. why are people like this?!

 

[isabee]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1459357564794126339

:-O

hyve and the big 3 have always been in cahoots...

edit: netizen comment #8 made me laugh lol

 

[Beholden to Paramatma]

The wokes have invaded this thread, Pay no heed to them guys. They’ll take offense at virtually everything.

O suggest block & move on.

 

[Oceanic]

why do you vilify the people you chose to obsess yourself with by quoting them as 'vile' "human" beings', etc? this superstitious discourse derails the conversation from what is actually going on - unchecked people in power (i.e. p*dobang) abusing children they groom that then are forced to become puppets for them as they grow older because of the draconian contracts they (or their parents) signed.

worship whatever deity you want, but seriously, take ownership over your own actions.
when i look at btees pictures, i don't experience anything of the stuff you've mentioned here. at all.

First off, I didn't choose to obsess over them. I don't know what I said to make you come to that conclusion.

How is this derailing the thread when I spoke about how their witchcraft is so powerful that sometimes looking at one mere picture of them can cause an unintentional reaction?

Take ownership of my own actions...what? Did you miss the part where I said I didn't ask to have that kind of reaction? The fact you just took my post and reverted it to something like this is irritating and disheartening.

Okay, YOU don't experience it but I do, and I'm sure some of the other members have. Just because you can't relate doesn't mean you have to negatively claim otherwise of what I said. And I really don't want to argue on this thread, we've had enough of that but I believe you shouldn't have spoken so rudely.

 

[e-Enoch]

Something to think about...even as we talk about betees issues...

"Love is love...?"
(Does this slogan rationalize paedophilia & other "relationships"?)

 

[smile for a better smile]

I feel that if I truly knew all of the wicked depraved shit that these kids have to endure once their parents/legal guardian basically gives them to the evil kpop industry I would be sick to my stomach

Txt and enhyphen are babies

How could parents sleep at night not knowing what their child was going through

Look how effed up it is for kids in Hollywood and most of the time their parents were still there so imagine what happens to kpop iodls where their is no parental figures anymore just the company who sees them as dollar signs

idk if it was the same for earlier gens but concerning the last one, they don't even hide the sexualization of minors anymore, i.e produce shows or whatever they are. One of the directors said smth about it being wholesome porn???? I'll share the article when I find it. Parents aren't better than perverts that work behind the scenes

 

[smile for a better smile]

Here is the article: https://www.soompi.com/article/878839wpp/produce-101-pd-fire-calling-show-wholesome-pornography

 

[smile for a better smile]

The wokes have invaded this thread, Pay no heed to them guys. They’ll take offense at virtually everything.

O suggest block & move on.

it wouldn't have been a problem if they acted as decent as they want the rest of the "ignorant" population to act like. Instead they use all kinds of insults and profanities whenever they interact with someone, yet guess who isn't living in 2021 according to them.
Esp that constantly putting words in ppl's mouth isn't that fair

 

[e-Enoch]

idk if it was the same for earlier gens but concerning the last one, they don't even hide the sexualization of minors anymore, i.e produce shows or whatever they are. One of the directors said smth about it being wholesome porn???? I'll share the article when I find it. Parents aren't better than perverts that work behind the scenes

Thanks for sharing the article. I've read it and the utter depravity of the mind of “Produce 101” PD Han Dong Chul is shocking to say the least...

I've tried to do a quick research on the etymology of "pornography" and here's what I got:

pornography (n.)*
1842, "ancient obscene painting, especially in temples of Bacchus," from French pornographie, from Greek pornographos "(one) depicting prostitutes," from graphein "to write" (see -graphy) + pornē "prostitute," originally "bought, purchased" (with an original notion, probably of "female slave sold for prostitution"), related to pernanai "to sell" (from PIE *perə-, variant of root *per- (5) "to traffic in, to sell").

A brothel in ancient Greek was a porneion. In reference to modern works by 1859 (originally French novels), later as a charge against native literature; the sense of "obscene pictures" in modern times is from 1906. Also sometimes used late 19c. for "description of prostitutes" as a matter of public hygiene.

Pornography, or obscene painting, which in the time of the Romans was practiced with the grossest license, prevailed especially at no particular period in Greece, but was apparently tolerated to a considerable extent at all times.

* Online Etymology Dictionary, retrieved 15 Nov. 2021.

What stands out in the definition is related to pernanai "to sell" (from PIE *perə-, variant of root *per- (5) "to traffic in, to sell")

Can we reasonably say that "Produce 101" as described by that PD is a "glamorized" show on "human trafficking"? You bet!

 

[Laura755y]

Something to think about...even as we talk about betees issues...

"Love is love...?" (Does this slogan rationalize paedophilia & other "relationships"?)

Majority of what he said was a straight up facts, and thats true under the name of Love they're trying to normalize pedophila, s*x with animals, orgies, even r*pe, cuz u cnt help who u love... . And i've said it before they're now trying to normalize pedo shit nd make its flag a part of lgbt's flag, i dnt care if two grown ass people have their affair, but when it comes to other shit, hell noo..

Paedophiles are trying to gain acceptance to the LGBT community by rebranding themselves.

In a bid to gain acceptance, they have rebranded themselves as MAPs or “Minor Attracted Persons” and have gone so far to even create a rainbow “Pride” flag for Gay Pride, but Twitter user, Communist Fish, posted a picture back in June to warn children to stay away.

The group attempt to claim that paedophiles are misunderstood people and if they do not act upon their attraction to children, they shouldn’t be marginalised.

Sites like The Prevention Project have started to post testimonials from paedophiles who are seeking help with their attraction, claiming everyone “needs support” ".

And we already saw this in hyve's case, namin a whole damn album "map of the soul" putting pedo symboles, flags along lgbt's flag, sexualizing underages, (jeon, sole t*t members....) and also older members, touching the youngests in fkn disgusting way.
And i'm sure that even the members themselves now that they grow up, knows wut each symbole, word, phrase, fruit, color mean, i wont be suprised if some of them are predators( we saw this in yn nd jn's case), for someone to say ow they're adults they can f**k who they want, those adults one of them was 13 and the others were fkn 18, a fkn ki, a minor, who was touched, sexualised, sleep deprived, by some older members, managers ... and god know who else.
However, i'm not okay about whatever disgusting shit, or whatever dark businesses those minors start doing now that they're adults, its not an excuse to fuck someone elses life.

 

[Laura755y]

Here is the article: https://www.soompi.com/article/878839wpp/produce-101-pd-fire-calling-show-wholesome-pornography

Thanks alot for this,

Thanks for sharing the article. I've read it and the utter depravity of the mind of “Produce 101” PD Han Dong Chul is shocking to say the least...

I've tried to do a quick research on the etymology of "pornography" and here's what I got:

pornography (n.)*
1842, "ancient obscene painting, especially in temples of Bacchus," from French pornographie, from Greek pornographos "(one) depicting prostitutes," from graphein "to write" (see -graphy) + pornē "prostitute," originally "bought, purchased" (with an original notion, probably of "female slave sold for prostitution"), related to pernanai "to sell" (from PIE *perə-, variant of root *per- (5) "to traffic in, to sell").

A brothel in ancient Greek was a porneion. In reference to modern works by 1859 (originally French novels), later as a charge against native literature; the sense of "obscene pictures" in modern times is from 1906. Also sometimes used late 19c. for "description of prostitutes" as a matter of public hygiene.

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* Online Etymology Dictionary, retrieved 15 Nov. 2021.

What stands out in the definition is related to pernanai "to sell" (from PIE *perə-, variant of root *per- (5) "to traffic in, to sell")

Can we reasonably say that "Produce 101" as described by that PD is a "glamorized" show on "human trafficking"? You bet!

Thats how i think of it, in fact the whole idolry, is a "human trafficking", he was also adressing cute minors that way, involving"little sister, or niece" in a a discussing about pornography, isnt it what a p***phile would say?!? Also talking about human beings like a mere product... thats too much fr.

 

[e-Enoch]

Thanks alot for this,

Thats how i think of it, in fact the whole idolry, is a "human trafficking", he was also adressing cute minors that way, involving"little sister, or niece" in a a discussing about pornography, isnt it what a p***phile would say?!? Also talking about human beings like a mere product... thats too much fr.

Yes, indeed! And how he said it so "casually," in a "normal conversation" is so appalling...not even considering his own relatives who are minors...

 

[Beholden to Paramatma]

it wouldn't have been a problem if they acted as decent as they want the rest of the "ignorant" population to act like. Instead they use all kinds of insults and profanities whenever they interact with someone, yet guess who isn't living in 2021 according to them.
Esp that constantly putting words in ppl's mouth isn't that fair

Agree,
This is a forum that comprises primarily of religious Individuals, from what I’vobserved at least. As practicing Christians, Jews or Muslims , some of us hold the belief that homosexuality IS A SIN. Holding such a belief in itself cannot be labeled as homophobia, None of us have advocated for the persecution , marginalization of homosexuals. Doing so alone would classify as homophobia.
@ThatGirlX @isabee , take ur unecessary woke virtue signaling elsewhere.
The Twitter Mad House seems to be just the place for you

 

[queen82]

Same, how tf could they leave their kids to strangers?!? Like wtf, letting ur kid in sole unknown creepy ass men/women, not knowing if they eat well, sleep well, are treated good, the world is full of a bunch of creepy, perverted people, how tf can they ever call themselves parents.

that's for money ...

 

[Laura755y]

that's for money ...

They're no different then bang pedoshit.