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Hate this group now, but this makes me sad. He was nodding off and sleepy. Poor kid. That's really fucked up.
This is an eleven minute vid of just jk falling asleep.
I skimmed it and saw most of the clips he was underage so still growing. It's very disturbing. He would be nodding off everywhere..in the middle of photoshoots, backstage, and one clip he was falling asleep standing up at the airport, his manager had to wake him. And the comments are acting like it's cute. Like did it ever cross their pea brains that he's being overworked to the point of exhaustion and he is not getting to sleep at nights?
 
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she's right about the glam group, and i agree with her (re: another post on her curiouscat) that sesangs are on the company's payroll, but her ideas about other things are like way off. she's convinced not a single member in btß is gay when a whole se0kjin exists. lmao, please.
and maybe she was a joonee stan and still remembers him fondly? but yo namjoon does sh*t for the group [speaking of the 2020-2021 namj00n; he had more influence before, for sure]. he literally contributed zero lyrics to the sh*tty english songs that charted on billboard this year.

what keeps btß running is everything around them that's working like a machine - spon$ors, multiple brand deals, p*do acquiring other companies like he's gonna d*e tomorrow, pumping out merchandise constantly to milk armee as much as possible, et al. we know the drill.

disclaimer: btw if the first part of my reply sounded a little bit ranty / aggressive, it's not directed at you, strawberry, but at btstarot who uses the deck in the weirdest ways ever. i honestly believe that her best info/insight wasn't gotten "through the cards" but from her snooping around like we do.

thanks for sharing as always <3
No problem and you're welcome! I was just sharing to see what everyone thinks. I like some of her insights and others I don't agree with. We definitely talked about the sasaengs. They get that close because they're paid to.
It's not that different from paparazzi paid by celebrities to take pictures. Their schedule is posted online. The Korean fan culture allows fans to see them leaving shows and on their public schedules. When their schedule is private, no one's allowed to be there. The intense fan and company culture means the idols have no one to turn to. No friends in the group, family makes money from them and the company only cares about what they do for them.

The account said btees lives in Bh building. I think t×t does too. Who lives in their real home? They're like slaves.

 
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This is an eleven minute vid of just jk falling asleep.
I skimmed it and saw most of the clips he was underage so still growing. It's very disturbing. He would be nodding off everywhere..in the middle of photoshoots, backstage, and one clip he was falling asleep standing up at the airport, his manager had to wake him. And the comments are acting like it's cute. Like did it ever cross their pea brains that he's being overworked to the point of exhaustion and he is not getting to sleep at nights?
That's far from cute. It's a recognized form of torture and against humans rights. How is this different from other forms of child labor? He was a slave.
 

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Oh wow! Didnt know about that, thats bit weird tho, why wouldnt he help his brother, do u think their manager control how they spend their money as well ?!? But still he'd have something of his own...
oh interesting!

you make really good points, but I just have this feeling that for the life of me can't shake off that he's not filthy rich. he would not be in btees the way he is rn. treatment towards him would be glaringly obvious if he truly were bc SK is like that.

his family is like steel spoon at most

i also think jn has been maltreated by staff in the past, not to the extent the maknae line has, but he's not immune.
he's at the same level as yngee, maybe even below tbh.
Wow both posts make me see things differently. Like jn's family was not as well off as I thought and maybe he's not as rich as it would seem. This is actually interesting because we have jn that didn't help his brother out and jk trying to make a buck by creating a shady business with his brother and lying to his fans. This doesn't sound like 2 men that are finacially solvent.
 
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Wow both posts make me see things differently. Like jn's family was not as well as I thought and maybe he's not as rich as it would seem. This is actually interesting because we have jn that didn't help his brother out and jk trying to make a buck by creating a shady business with his brother and lying to his fans. This doesn't sound like 2 men that are finacially solvent.
What if his father lost the inheritance from his father? Their alleged chaebol grandfather had four sons. He let two run his business and the other two disappeared. There's nothing on them. It's possible he lost his money and the only thing he has is his upbringing and the way he carries himself. Another possibility is his family disinherited him. I don't lean towards that because they spent time with him as a trainee and his mom lent him dishes to cook for btees. His brother lent money for food. Something is off. He has the bearing, education and upbringing of a well-to-do young man.
 

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Wow both posts make me see things differently. Like jn was not as well off as I thought and maybe he's not as rich as it would seem. This is actually interesting because we have jn that didn't help his brother out and jk trying to make a buck by creating a shady business with his brother and lying to his fans. This doesn't sound like 2 men that are finacially solvent.

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Imo they aren't.
 
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Wow both posts make me see things differently. Like jn's family was not as well off as I thought and maybe he's not as rich as it would seem. This is actually interesting because we have jn that didn't help his brother out and jk trying to make a buck by creating a shady business with his brother and lying to his fans. This doesn't sound like 2 men that are finacially solvent.
lmao all i got from the jk situation was that he probably broke as hell, saesangs rethink your choices before you get with a broke man XD
 

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No problem and you're welcome! I was just sharing to see what everyone thinks. I like some of her insights and others I don't agree with. We definitely talked about the sasaengs. They get that close because they're paid to.
It's not that different from paparazzi paid by celebrities to take pictures. Their schedule is posted online. The Korean fan culture allows fans to see them leaving shows and on their public schedules. When their schedule is private, no one's allowed to be there
woah it's crazy how saesangs really work; comparing them to paparazzi feels very appropriate.

The intense fan and company culture means the idols have no one to turn to. No friends in the group, family makes money from them and the company only cares about what they do for them.
no wonder some idols just give up :(

The account said btees lives in Bh building. I think t×t does too. Who lives in their real home? They're like slaves.

if that's true that's so freaking sad for them all, but especially btß the biggest, most popular boyband in the world.
yo, maybe that's why hyve keeps their lights on 24/7?
 

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What if his father lost the inheritance from his father? Their alleged chaebol grandfather had four sons. He let two run his business and the other two disappeared. There's nothing on them.
where did the other two disappear to?? how odd :-O

It's possible he lost his money and the only thing he has is his upbringing and the way he carries himself. Another possibility is his family disinherited him. I don't lean towards that because they spent time with him as a trainee and his mom lent him dishes to cook for btees. His brother lent money for food. Something is off. He has the bearing, education and upbringing of a well-to-do young man.
right. maybe he did come from a moneyed family, say at most upper middle class where they could send their son to Australia for example ...but like, in an economy class seat, not first class and definitely not on private jet lol
 
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woah it's crazy how saesangs really work; comparing them to paparazzi feels very appropriate.


no wonder some idols just give up :(


if that's true that's so freaking sad for them all, but especially btß the biggest, most popular boyband in the world.
yo, maybe that's why hyve keeps their lights on 24/7?
I think t×t lives there too. Sometimes the background of their selfies and TikTok videos are something you would see in a highrise. They're a product and BH needs to keep an eye on it. That's why they have sasaengs. The manager, producers, staff, bodyguards and sasaengs make sure their penises stay dry and they're obedient.

where did the other two disappear to?? how odd :-O


right. maybe he did come from a moneyed family, say at most upper middle class where they could send their son to Australia for example ...but like, in an economy class seat, not first class and definitely not on private jet lol
He's rich but not that rich. Jk had money problems too a few years ago. What's going on with them? They should have wealth for many generations.
 

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No problem and you're welcome! I was just sharing to see what everyone thinks. I like some of her insights and others I don't agree with. We definitely talked about the sasaengs. They get that close because they're paid to.
It's not that different from paparazzi paid by celebrities to take pictures. Their schedule is posted online. The Korean fan culture allows fans to see them leaving shows and on their public schedules. When their schedule is private, no one's allowed to be there. The intense fan and company culture means the idols have no one to turn to. No friends in the group, family makes money from them and the company only cares about what they do for them.

The account said btees lives in Bh building. I think t×t does too. Who lives in their real home? They're like slaves.

i expect them to at least live in one big apartment together, but just the thought of them living crowded like this even after the luxury status they are in and the expensive clothes/accessories they wear just doesnt sit right with me...i already feel humiliated for them! like would they really go to the extreme on renting empty places and buying furniture just to deceive people into thinking they are living the best life?

it reminds me of these videos, it may relate more to what any trainee goes through but this system of being promised a luxury life but it costs them alot, even their bodies, so they end up in debt and depressed while convincing everyone to believe they are satisfied and happy. :( and then thats where the black room comes in where theyll join and participate in horrible things to continue staying rich/have good reputation! its definitely confirmed now that surgery, sponsors & sexual favors is a MUST.


honestly i do believe they each carry a lot of wealth, but it just haunts me of someone going to the extreme of pretending to live a life that is not truly how it is behind the scenes just to get fame fortune and money
 

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not sure if this was posted already but the fact that they literally went to the UN standing up for climate change, and oh boy army should know this is just the FIRST of the many issues they (their name, company, hybe) are involved in. alot of armys are wishing the boys arent involved in this, which is shocking to see some that dont just automatically defend them. Is it possible they are involved?
 
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i expect them to at least live in one big apartment together, but just the thought of them living crowded like this even after the luxury status they are in and the expensive clothes/accessories they wear just doesnt sit right with me...i already feel humiliated for them! like would they really go to the extreme on renting empty places and buying furniture just to deceive people into thinking they are living the best life?

it reminds me of these videos, it may relate more to what any trainee goes through but this system of being promised a luxury life but it costs them alot, even their bodies, so they end up in debt and depressed while convincing everyone to believe they are satisfied and happy. :( and then thats where the black room comes in where theyll join and participate in horrible things to continue staying rich/have good reputation! its definitely confirmed now that surgery, sponsors & sexual favors is a MUST.


honestly i do believe they each carry a lot of wealth, but it just haunts me of someone going to the extreme of pretending to live a life that is not truly how it is behind the scenes just to get fame fortune and money
This is long, so I apologize. She made a video about kpop. It disturbed me seeing what choices children have to make that affect the rest of their lives. Get botched before 21, and it's usually older people that destroy their looks. Then indebted to a company, zero life skills, education or training. That's why a lot of former trainees take jobs at the company, end up working in a poorly paying job or have nothing to show for the years put into it.

Stunting on the gram has become common, for teens, millennials and even older people. It's all illusions and everyone is miserable trying to attain something that's not realistic.

Their situation reminds me of rap and pop stars in the US. They get jewels and outfits to look rich, but are broke. Their homes and cars are company owned. Puffy paid his stars almost nothing. They would tour and make millions and go home to the projects. Some were extremely successful and had nothing. Lou perlman took everything from his artists and they had nothing.

They could be living there because they have nowhere else to go, it's in their contract or to keep an eye on them. There's no way they let Jk wonder around by himself.
 
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not sure if this was posted already but the fact that they literally went to the UN standing up for climate change, and oh boy army should know this is just the FIRST of the many issues they (their name, company, hybe) are involved in. alot of armys are wishing the boys arent involved in this, which is shocking to see some that dont just automatically defend them. Is it possible they are involved?
Nfts are futuristic but are also seen as a scam by some. This summer a lot of celebrities were shilling for different cryptocurrency and nfts. The dragging was spectacular. Another way for Bh to transfer armys money to their accounts.
 
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