Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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Omg,the lyrics reminds me "criminal" or "lucif*r",the concept is falling in the sin like Eve eating the apple...the part about him being at the end of his life and being happy next to someone is like someone who sold the soul.Who wrote the lyrics??
I saw "criminal"lyrics,the concept is the same,but in criminal it could be alter ego or bdsm...in "crazy "it is clearly temptation and selling the soul,so i find "crazy" worst then "criminal".
jonghyun wrote it with iron what makes me suspicious about this song is that they talk about end of their lives happening due to falling in temptation of the devil and then both iron and jjong died mysterious deaths is it just a coincidence?
 

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jonghyun wrote it with iron what makes me suspicious about this song is that they talk about end of their lives happening due to falling in temptation of the devil and then both iron and jjong died mysterious deaths is it just a coincidence?
The system has rules.
I think they were trapped by the consequencies of these rules,one of the rule (my opinion)is to respect a hierarchy,a social status,so the people who are not high in the piramid could be victims,could be replaced,and so sadly murdered and destroied.This is horrible and creepy,but this is how the system works,but this is only my opinion,i have no idea how really things are in the industry,i could be wrong,i noticed that the perception of someone when is in television or youtube change ,sometimes in a way that if you see someone in real life he seems a different person,and this thing creeped me,it means that Jonghyun and Iron could be different than they seems,same for Ta3min and other idols,maybe he is not creepy like he seems,who knows how really he is.
 
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"Inspiration" was written for Nct U ,so Jonghyun was a producer,not only a singer,he wrote songs for others like Exo,Lee hi,Ta3min,and he wanted to write songs for "Oh my girl",and others groups;a producer like S*ga,Rm,has more freedom,do you think that a producer has a level of wisdom and knowledge higher than someone who is only a singer?Do you think he was an handler like could be Rm?
I saw "Crazy" live performance,the microphone has a square,also there are triangle shapes,this seems sacred geometry,maybe Ta3min learned from him the friendship triangle symbol.It seems that Jonghyun had more knowledge in occult than Ta3min.Ta3min occult concept began after Jonghyun's death,Move concept was sexy and genderless,also Pretty boy and Danger.The occult concept came with Want,so Taemin's career was influenced by Jonghyun's death.After Jonghyun's death people began to find Ta3min evil and creepy,but i wonder before Jonghyun's death how people considered Ta3min?How much people changed the perception of seeing Ta3min because of Jonghyun's death?How much this afftected his career?Maybe Ta3min's role is to replace Jonghyun's place,but this is not his will,this is how the things works in the occult.When someone is sacrificed,someone should take his place.
If he was the handler or a master the most similar to him should take his role,and the most related to him is Ta3min.
Ta3min accepted this situation,but sometimes he broke down,he sacrificed his happiness and the peace of his soul because he wanted to be like Jonghyun,but this is how kpop works,this is how trainees are prepared,this is normal for them.
We should stay neutral and go beyond the stan culture to understand better kpop situation.These are human beings,so they do mistakes,they have problems,and behind the gold there is a lot of sh*t
I do think producers and choreographers have more control than regular singing or dancing idol like say R*m and sugar have more control than jkay or j1m1n and similiarly jhope and lay would have more control than T@emin or ka1

I don't know if jjong was a handler to T@em but they did like to push the whole mentor-student thing with them and jonghyun had a hand in t@em accepting the genderless concept so maybe they were grooming him to take jjong's place but I think that jjong's death has hurt t@em more than helped him bcz he has had to overwork himself to fill the space he has to now not only carry their dance routines but he also has to share high notes with onew and cover some of jjong's hardest vocal parts too. And yes it is kind of true that he started to do occult concepts post jjong's death but we still have press your number which was filled with mk ultra symbolisms.

I don't know how shawols perceived t@em before jjong's death but I think this whole concept about t@em being privileged did get overblown after his death as some blingers said that 5m's favouritism toward T led to neglect of J's solo which hurt his mental health but I don't think he's 5m's favourite anymore the most promo he got from 5m was for press it and everything went downhill afterwords even they didn't give him songs for move repackage he had to make day and night all by himself in 3 days they only give lip service but don't actualy care about his solo but whats been troubling me is that 5m been showing possessive behavior towards T@em since recently they made him get a house close to their buikding then we got the famous enlistment video now they bought his trademark 6v6 emoji and now with that new Taemggung account they have even managed to monetize his pet cat this ain't right 5m shouldn't have this much control over his life he could end up in a situation similiar to mj or worse britney if he ever has a fued with 5m
 

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I do think producers and choreographers have more control than regular singing or dancing idol like say R*m and sugar have more control than jkay or j1m1n and similiarly jhope and lay would have more control than T@emin or ka1

I don't know if jjong was a handler to T@em but they did like to push the whole mentor-student thing with them and jonghyun had a hand in t@em accepting the genderless concept so maybe they were grooming him to take jjong's place but I think that jjong's death has hurt t@em more than helped him bcz he has had to overwork himself to fill the space he has to now not only carry their dance routines but he also has to share high notes with onew and cover some of jjong's hardest vocal parts too. And yes it is kind of true that he started to do occult concepts post jjong's death but we still have press your number which was filled with mk ultra symbolisms.

I don't know how shawols perceived t@em before jjong's death but I think this whole concept about t@em being privileged did get overblown after his death as some blingers said that 5m's favouritism toward T led to neglect of J's solo which hurt his mental health but I don't think he's 5m's favourite anymore the most promo he got from 5m was for press it and everything went downhill afterwords even they didn't give him songs for move repackage he had to make day and night all by himself in 3 days they only give lip service but don't actualy care about his solo but whats been troubling me is that 5m been showing possessive behavior towards T@em since recently they made him get a house close to their buikding then we got the famous enlistment video now they bought his trademark 6v6 emoji and now with that new Taemggung account they have even managed to monetize his pet cat this ain't right 5m shouldn't have this much control over his life he could end up in a situation similiar to mj or worse britney if he ever has a fued with 5m
This reminds me Mj or britney situation,they want to control him,and milk from him,he is not the favorite anymore,so they did the best to gain profit for him...he is in this system,and he can't be free,since you enter you can't exit...and the things goes on in this way.
If Ta3min is privileged i think he is not the only,there are others privileged...
I explained in a wrong way about occult concept...for occult i mean not only mk ultra or torture,but reference to devil,temptation,and blasphemic things.I don't remember that Ta3min before Jonghyun's death did blasphemic things like in Want Mv.
Who do you think now are Sm favorite?
 

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This reminds me Mj or britney situation,they want to control him,and milk from him,he is not the favorite anymore,so they did the best to gain profit for him...he is in this system,and he can't be free,since you enter you can't exit...and the things goes on in this way.
If Ta3min is privileged i think he is not the only,there are others privileged...
I explained in a wrong way about occult concept...for occult i mean not only mk ultra or torture,but reference to devil,temptation,and blasphemic things.I don't remember that Ta3min before Jonghyun's death did blasphemic things like in Want Mv.
Who do you think now are Sm favorite?
exo lay is LSM favorite
and Heechul SJ
 
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jonghyun wrote it with iron what makes me suspicious about this song is that they talk about end of their lives happening due to falling in temptation of the devil and then both iron and jjong died mysterious deaths is it just a coincidence?
I'm chilled thinking there's a connection between those two. Interesting coincidence.
 

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The overall concept and meaning of guilty and criminal is almost same and taem does talk about resisting the devil in criminal too but that really ain't important bcz the point is that these 2 were bandmates who went through the same experiences forced or manipulated to perform rituals by sm and ofcourse both iron and jonghyun would write crazy in past tense because they were the chosen sacrifices while taem is not now whether jonghyun was remorseful and taemin voluntary performs these rituals is another story but personally I don't believe any shinee member actually enjoys it and I have my own reasons to believe it and you don't have to agree with them
I respect your beliefs that Jonghyun and Taemin were bandmates who have been forced and manipulated by SM, but I think you're underestimating the willpower of human beings. Cuz based on what I understand from you, a group of people would have the exact same response to a Satanic force which clearly goes against those cults' history that's filled of people who could resist and fight it too.

I'm not trying to change your own beliefs in shinee cuz it's not my responsibility. But the fact remains, in spite of everything, they accepted to renew their contracts even though they were aware they could be the next target any time. So, I don't know how this attitude could possibly be considered as a "resistance"...
 

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Iron had only FOUR years of activity, I don't think it was enough of time to either grow his fame or to be chosen. But he probably got killed because he was a troublemaker. Someone with that kind of nature is hardly could keep secrets, they'll explode at any tiny kind of abuse against them. Even if he was corrupted himself, I don't think he would be able to get along with the corrupted heads in the industry.
 

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I respect your beliefs that Jonghyun and Taemin were bandmates who have been forced and manipulated by SM, but I think you're underestimating the willpower of human beings. Cuz based on what I understand from you, a group of people would have the exact same response to a Satanic force which clearly goes against those cults' history that's filled of people who could resist and fight it too.

I'm not trying to change your own beliefs in shinee cuz it's not my responsibility. But the fact remains, in spite of everything, they accepted to renew their contracts even though they were aware they could be the next target any time. So, I don't know how this attitude could possibly be considered as a "resistance"...
it's ok you don't have to believe in mk ultra programming even I end up questioning it sometimes lol. But first of all not everyone is strong enough to resist against the elites and I don't expect someone like T@emin who is very submissive and weak in this regard to actively rebel against 5m that boy is still very dependent on his hyungs and 5m he's got talent and ambition but he ain't bold like jjong or even key plus he was raised by the industry so it makes sense that he's the most heavily indoctrinated one so for him to even come out with a song like advice calling out 5m and the industry is a big deal and I have only recently started to consider him as more of a victim than the handler and that's because of the way 5m has been treating him since criminal era or to be more specific the pandemic he was the golden hen who was supposed to bring bank from his solo dome concerts but as soon as his concerts got cancelled they started treating him like a used good they delayed his comeback for a year gave him 0 promo made him promote s*perm on the release date of his album gave him 1 version for his last album pre enlistment and overworked him to the point that even 10 Pounds of makeup couldn't hide the tiredness on his face and the dead look of his eyes I can't comment on minkey but atleast 0new and t@em I think are not strong enough to rebel against 5m they are too weak and I doubt they even know what truly happened to jjong when his own mother and sister are happy with jjong's name still being associated with 5m.
 

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This reminds me Mj or britney situation,they want to control him,and milk from him,he is not the favorite anymore,so they did the best to gain profit for him...he is in this system,and he can't be free,since you enter you can't exit...and the things goes on in this way.
If Ta3min is privileged i think he is not the only,there are others privileged...
I explained in a wrong way about occult concept...for occult i mean not only mk ultra or torture,but reference to devil,temptation,and blasphemic things.I don't remember that Ta3min before Jonghyun's death did blasphemic things like in Want Mv.
Who do you think now are Sm favorite?
aespa: Karina and winter
N*T= taeyong, mark, t3n
And ka1 but we will have to wait for his 2nd solo for that if he gets tons of promo like before than he's definitely one of their favs
 

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Iron had only FOUR years of activity, I don't think it was enough of time to either grow his fame or to be chosen. But he probably got killed because he was a troublemaker. Someone with that kind of nature is hardly could keep secrets, they'll explode at any tiny kind of abuse against them. Even if he was corrupted himself, I don't think he would be able to get along with the corrupted heads in the industry.
he's suspicious becz he was part of the original lineup for b*s
 
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