With the world’s eyes on Afghanistan, how does the Taliban represent Islam?

Oceanic

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Travel to America? Uh no. 9/11 was a false flag and another attack would be too.
Oh...it's you.

I can so very clearly remember your white supremacist posts, you will do anything to defend your people just like an unjust judge or that of a false accuser, so I'm not even going to argue with you on this one. Gooooodbye.
 

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Oh...it's you.

I can so very clearly remember your white supremacist posts, you will do anything to defend your people just like an unjust judge or that of a false accuser, so I'm not even going to argue with you on this one. Gooooodbye.
I'm white and color doesn't have anything to do with it. 9/11 was a false flag to get boots on the ground in the middle east.

Truth be told its hardly the first false flag so i doubt it will be the last.
 

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To a Christian Zionist, it is the pinnacle.

From the Obelisk (which some say is a symbolic penis).. in DC
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to the masonic owls drawn into the streets..

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Clearly America is all about it.
You raise a very interesting point - the idea that “American” and “Christian” are synonymous.

Additionally, the idea that part of God’s plan was to bring Israel back to their ancient homeland is woven through the OT and NT and has nothing to do with Osiris or owls!
 

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You raise a very interesting point - the idea that “American” and “Christian” are synonymous.

Additionally, the idea that part of God’s plan was to bring Israel back to their ancient homeland is woven through the OT and NT and has nothing to do with Osiris or owls!
Christianity seems to be synonymous with the English speaking world. Surely you've seen the map Tidal has posted 100 times?
US, UK, Australia, ect.

Being American i can tell you this country is anything but Christian.


I don't pay attention to the scofield Bible. When Israel murders innocents daily and has done so for decades now, one can hardly call that God's plan.

Ironically trinitarianism is deeply intertwined with the Osirus story.
 

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I understand.


I remember when the "dancing Israelis" appeared on late night television many years ago. They originally got arrested for recording the demolition and celebrating, but were released. All of them ended up going to Israel. Anyway on late night tv they said they were there to document the event, proving foreknowledge

9/11 was clearly a false flag.

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You raise a very interesting point - the idea that “American” and “Christian” are synonymous.

Additionally, the idea that part of God’s plan was to bring Israel back to their ancient homeland is woven through the OT and NT and has nothing to do with Osiris or owls!
You just described a self fulfilling prophecy. The key idea in the self-fulfilling prophecy is that of an unbacked or false notion spurring behavior that, in turn, makes a person or people act “as if” the idea was reality until, eventually, these behaviors build a reality where the false prophecy comes true.

You’re discrediting the OT.

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I don't pay attention to the scofield Bible. When Israel murders innocents daily and has done so for decades now, one can hardly call that God's plan.
Your reply reveals a lot. There is no value in misrepresenting beliefs. I don’t have a Schofield Bible - I understand it’s just a KJV with footnotes? I don’t believe there are any added passages in this version?

Second, the Bible indicates that Israel is brought back to their land in unbelief, and prior to them coming into God’a will, they will be facing the time of Jacob’s Trouble. It is not without reason that they will come into judgement, but they will also eventually come into repentance.
 

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Ah, the infamous John McCain staffer tape showing all the "beheading" being done on a movie set.
Trying to find some type of rational explanation for this footage is quite difficult, other than to assume that all the proper terrorists took a day off on that particular afternoon.

I'm surprised you actually found a video of it on themtube still. I might as well get a copy because with that website its here today, gone tomorrow
It has been mirrored by many over time due to it's importance. They were stone cold busted on that one. If only the general public were made fully aware that this tyoe of practice is common then TPTB would be holding a lot less power than tbey do today. This is pure, unadulterated propaganda.

I remember before that bombshell there were alot of truthers picking holes in it. If you can find even those videos today you'll see the shadows don't match
I would imagine most of those exposè videos have subsequently been removed from public scrutiny. That is what's been happening over recent years anyway.
 
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Yes it makes complete sense now they are funding terrorist groups because they are Christian and they love to see other Christians die because they are a Christian nation lol. You guys can't even see the flaw in your own logic. Not saying they don't fund them indirectly but pretty sure the Taliban are trained in Pakistan. And beside if the u.s are funding them that's a good thing in ur eyes coz they are the good guys ? Lol let's speak some sense here the Muslim countries back these groups the US use them. But stop playing the its all the west fault and falling into that false dichotomy it's clearly more nuanced than that. Saying it's Jews or its this or that or one thing ur wrong and u know it.
 
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Hey, I just want to mention Biden said there will be no more war regarding Afghanistan. He said this on World News this morning, however I also watched the news yesterday, and the news reporters mentioned that Americans left a lot of weapons behind, which they suspect the Taliban are going to use for war.

So...this sounds planned to me- at least particularly. Because what if they use the weapons to their advantage and travel to America to start something?
A lot of the military equipment in Kabul was destroyed: they smashed up helicopters and jets, and burnt guns and other equipment. So this is unusable.

Video showing how the American and Afghan Unit 01 forces damaged the helicopters before evacuating Kabul airport.

Another video showing burnt out weapons and equipment at Kabul airport.

As of 31st August 2021, the Taliban have claimed the damaged and unflyable A-29s in Kabul. 9-10 Aircraft were left in Kabul, 6-7 of which were damaged and disabled inside a hangar.


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The above infographic from the Sunday Times that shows the "Taliban's new arsenal" is based on a 2017 audit by US govt accounting body, so it reflects the entire military arsenal of the Afghan National Army in 2017, not what the Taliban have in 2021. A lot of helicopters were smuggled out during the takeover this month, while many helicopters were flows out to to Tajikistan and Uzbekistan by Afghan army pilots (Afghan army [ANA] being the soldiers trained against the Taliban by the US). The Taliban has a small fraction of what is claimed.

Note that this equipment was not given by the US to the Taliban, it was for the use of the 300,000 Afghan National Army soldiers who Biden relied on to prevent the Taliban's advance.

They will also need mechanics and technicians to maintain the equipment, as well as resources, and they aren't able to do so to the same extent as the US military, so while some will be usable, the rest will be cannibalized for parts, scrapped, or sold.

Dr. Jonathan Schroden's conclusions after deconstructing the myths about the Taliban's weapons and equipment is:
"- The #Taliban have a sizable new arsenal, but…
- It’s not worth $88B
- It’s not as large as people are saying
- They can’t use all of it
- They can use a lot of it
- They can maintain the bulk of it."


Explanation why the infographic about $88 billion in equipment and weapons is wrong.

Pentagon spokesman: "While seizing this equipment may be beneficial to the Taliban," Pahon said, "it does not represent a threat to the U.S., Allies or partners."

Washington Post: No, the Taliban did not seize $83 billion of U.S. weapons
Meanwhile, as the U.S. military wound down its mission, it turned over facilities and equipment to the Afghan security forces — which may have added to the total seized by the Taliban. But Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., head of U.S. Central Command, said that before leaving Kabul airport on Aug. 30, the military “demilitarized” 70 MRAPs, 27 Humvees and 73 aircraft. “Those aircraft will never fly again,” he said. “They’ll never be able to be operated by anyone.” (Demilitarized is a term that means damaging in place, sometimes with explosives.) “No one has any accounting of exactly what survived the last weeks of the collapse and fell into Taliban hands, and even before the collapse, SIGAR had publicly reported no accounting was possible in many districts,” said Anthony H. Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “In rough terms, however, if the ANDSF could not sustain it without foreign contractors, the Taliban will have very serious problems in operating it. That covers most aircraft and many electronics and heavier weapons.”

The Soviets similarly left behind a lot of weaponry, which the Taliban still use.
 

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Oh...it's you.

I can so very clearly remember your white supremacist posts, you will do anything to defend your people just like an unjust judge or that of a false accuser, so I'm not even going to argue with you on this one. Gooooodbye.
I'm not defending my people, I'm saying 9/11 was a false flag so if anything I'm defending Muslims.
 

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Pettiness. This place is supposedly for an exchange of ideas. We want the world to wake up yet all I see is the same divide here that is out there. Words being thrown out as if an argument here or flattening a certain individual will change a thing. This is a depressing read. Insults, looking down one's nose at others and the worst part is any individual who thinks they have all the answers and any of this is crystal clear. To those who think they have the answers just wait until you see what is coming when your internet drops out, your table has less food, your freedoms are wrecked where choice is not in the equation. I am just seriously depressed reading this thread and the emotion which leads to things said which cannot be taken back and will make down the road convo's more difficult. Okay, back to the umm, discussion and witch hunts, name-calling and the desire to wake those around us;)
 

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Whoever kills a soul it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. (5:32 Quran)
That psycho put that in the Quran after he misappropriated the quote from the Talmud—the JEWISH Talmud:
Whoever destroys a soul [of a Jew], it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life [of a Jew], it is considered as if he saved an entire world.
  • Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5; Yerushalmi Talmud 4:9, Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 37a.
So by that same Islamic Logic, that says Israel controls the US/UK, does the evidence of the misappropriated quote, compared with how late Islam showed up after Judaism, mean that rabbis control Islam? Hmmm…
 
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Pettiness. This place is supposedly for an exchange of ideas. We want the world to wake up yet all I see is the same divide here that is out there. Words being thrown out as if an argument here or flattening a certain individual will change a thing. This is a depressing read. Insults, looking down one's nose at others and the worst part is any individual who thinks they have all the answers and any of this is crystal clear. To those who think they have the answers just wait until you see what is coming when your internet drops out, your table has less food, your freedoms are wrecked where choice is not in the equation. I am just seriously depressed reading this thread and the emotion which leads to things said which cannot be taken back and will make down the road convo's more difficult. Okay, back to the umm, discussion and witch hunts, name-calling and the desire to wake those around us;)
People in this thread are saying the Taliban Is a good thing and u want us to not call out what utter rubbish that is for the sake of Unity. Come on man have a backbone.
 

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I can assure you I was talking of both sides of the equation. A backbone is one thing - common sense to not get mired in the muck is another which leads to not getting caught up in the divide and getting things done away from a discussion forum. Nothing will come from the discussion herein and few minds will be changed. I will move on from the trap.
 
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That psycho put that in the Quran after he misappropriated the quote from the Talmud—the JEWISH Talmud:

So by that same Islamic Logic, that says Israel controls the US/UK, does the evidence of the misappropriated quote, compared with how late Islam showed up after Judaism, mean that rabbis control Islam? Hmmm…
Rabbi Rabbi Samuel Edels (1555 – 1631 AD) comments on Sanhedrin 37a:
"‘One soul of Israel’ means EXCLUSIVELY AN ISRAELITE, who alone had, through Jacob, retained the Divine image, in which Adam was created. But other nations have not that image, but are like other creatures. Whoever, therefore, destroys a soul of them, does not destroy the whole replenished world, etc.”

Rabbi Efraim Shmueli on Sanhedrin 37a:

This question was debated in the Rabbinic culture, resulting in opinions that were generally unfavourable, sometimes downright harsh, to Gentiles, as for example, the words of Rabbi Samuel Eliezer Edels (1555 – 1631), whose famous commentary, Hidushei Halachot, accompanies most editions of the Talmud, in the commentary to San 37a: ‘This is intended to teach you that any man who saves one soul in Israel, and it is intentionally specified ‘one soul in Israel,’ in singular form, as this is the image of God, the Singular One of the world, and Jacob’s form [i.e. Israel] is His Likeness… but Kuttim [i.e. Gentiles] do not have the form of man, only the form of other creatures, and whoever brings about the loss of a soul among them does not lose the world, and whoever saves a soul among them neither adds nor diminishes anything in this world.

Kaleef Karim in studying both verses, concludes:

"The ‘Judaic principle’ from Sanhedrin 4:5 and Sanhedrin 37a, when held up in critical scrutiny we see that the quotes referenced only refer to the saving of Jewish lives, not all human beings (no gentiles). Hence, we see that Surah 5:32 and the quotes discussed – they have vast differences in their content and meaning. Furthermore, how could the Quran plagiarize from the Talmud, given the fact that there is not a shred of evidence that an extant copy of it existed during the life-time of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم)?"

(Tracts of the Talmud were only translated into Arabic starting in 2012.)

The Quran verse and Sanhedrin verse clearly contradict each other.

While Judaism disdains the value of the lives of non-Jews, in Islam, the existence of other religious groups is tolerated under its authority, as are treaties. Ibn al Qayyim al Jawziyyah, the Hanabli exegete and disciple of Ibn Taymiyyah, wrote a 2000-page treatise called Ahkaam ahl al Dhimmah to this effect, which gathers together the rulings on non-Muslims living under the covenant of the Islamic gov't as derived from the authoritative Islamic sources (the Quran, authentic hadith, example of the earliest generation of Muslims, and the opinions of the scholars in the schools of Islamic jurisprudence).

Islam tolerates the existence of other faiths under its authority. See the Treaty of Medina, the Pact of Umar, the Convivencia of Islamic Spain, and the Ottoman millet system. Where the Crusaders massacred the Muslims in Jerusalem, Salahuddin permitted some to leave and others to stay, if they so wished. He negotiated with Frederick II to permit Christians to make pilgrimage to the Holy Sepulchre without being harassed, achieving what the Crusaders have never accomplished without force. While Europe was wracked with endless wars between Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox princely states, the Islamic empire housed various minority faith groups. Under the covenant of the Muslim polity, the lives, properties, and livelihoods of non-Muslims are protected; those who violate them are punished, those who kill them "will not smell the fragrance of paradise" according to an authentic narration of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم.

2. If you want play that game about the Quran being plagiarized from Judeo-Christian sources, you have a lot of verses to deal with. The Quran is filled with inter-textual and -linguistic links, polemics and puns. Bit of a problem though. The Biblical, extra-Biblical, apocryphal and other ancient texts with which the Quran displays a clear familiarity were not available in the 7th century Hijaz, never mind in Arabic, never mind to an illiterate society. The Quran references an Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Text that could not be deciphered until the discovery of the Rosetta stone in the 19th century.

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And so We vary our signs to the extent that they will say, “You have studied ˹previous scriptures˺,” and We make this ˹Quran˺ clear for people who know. Quran 6:105
 
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People in this thread are saying the Taliban Is a good thing and u want us to not call out what utter rubbish that is for the sake of Unity. Come on man have a backbone.
You're more of a drag queen story time guy? Tell me what's good and moral about the globalist American empire?
 

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Your reply reveals a lot. There is no value in misrepresenting beliefs. I don’t have a Schofield Bible - I understand it’s just a KJV with footnotes? I don’t believe there are any added passages in this version?

Second, the Bible indicates that Israel is brought back to their land in unbelief, and prior to them coming into God’a will, they will be facing the time of Jacob’s Trouble. It is not without reason that they will come into judgement, but they will also eventually come into repentance.
What do you think of this verse Red?

Lends at interest, and takes profit; shall he then live? He shall not live. He has done
all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon himself. (Ezekiel 18:13)

Seems to me usury (interest) is bad. Yet...

You may charge a foreigner interest, (Deut 23:20)

Odd, isn't it? Kinda like when the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination, but another verse says a man can have sex with certain men.


My point Red.. its obvious the Bible has been changed by mans hand to favor certain people Yet you go to the mat defending the synagauge of satan ignoring what they do, calling them "God's plan". When to 95% of the world, they are evil incarnate.

You’ll be hated: Israelis are disliked by their own people and by countries around them and other people in the world. For no reason, you’ll find that you are hated.
~Jennifer Lang (A Jew living in Israel)
Now if they are Gods chosen, why does the creation hate them? I mean read that quote, they Hate themselves. This is God's plan as repayment for the evil that they do.

You worship the anti-Christ Red. It is as plain as the nose on your face. You take edited scripture to support an abomination.
One thing i can guarantee you Red. Sooner or later God is gonna cut Israel down.
 

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People in this thread are saying the Taliban Is a good thing and u want us to not call out what utter rubbish that is for the sake of Unity. Come on man have a backbone.
I did not read the whole thread but people have been saying the Taliban are a GOOD THING? Oh my god o_O

So attempting to force their religion on others otherwise death is inevitable is a good thing to most of the people in this thread? What the actual hell? Also, the Taliban are a bunch of misogynistic power-hungry men like I don't understand how people can side with them.
 

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What do you think of this verse Red?

Lends at interest, and takes profit; shall he then live? He shall not live. He has done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon himself. (Ezekiel 18:13)

Seems to me usury (interest) is bad. Yet...

You may charge a foreigner interest, (Deut 23:20)

Odd, isn't it? Kinda like when the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination, but another verse says a man can have sex with certain men.


My point Red.. its obvious the Bible has been changed by mans hand to favor certain people Yet you go to the mat defending the synagauge of satan ignoring what they do, calling them "God's plan". When to 95% of the world, they are evil incarnate.



Now if they are Gods chosen, why does the creation hate them? I mean read that quote, they Hate themselves. This is God's plan as repayment for the evil that they do.

You worship the anti-Christ Red. It is as plain as the nose on your face. You take edited scripture to support an abomination.
One thing i can guarantee you Red. Sooner or later God is gonna cut Israel down.
There is a difference between a true Israelite and an Israeli. I don't know what Red is trying to suggest, but the Israeli are the FAKE "Jews". How the hell do you have a black community at one point, then years pass, and everyone is suddenly white in Israel? They simply took over. So they, the white Israeli's will be punished. They're not God's chosen, God's chosen are the black Jews, but for the sake of staying on topic I won't go further than that...unless you want me to.
 
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