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so hj is back with their new mv OH, i feel like they only let him back to promote the mv more which is a smart marketing move. hj is the talk of the kpop community right now, and st4ys and non st4ys have been anticipating for his come back, and then they dropped the mv with him all of a sudden and its trending on twt and everywhere. its a marketing move for the mv to make the viewers high. the song sounds generic and i hate it, it sounds boring, they could do better.
 
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same

lol yeah ever since ive been seeing s00bin and his constant "love" for bebe rexha, ive been give them the side eye...

^ s00bin does the one eye and sits on a couch... couch can be code for pr0st1tute
^over here h3uning ka1 mentions chicago pizza, pizza is code for p3d0philia/s3x. She also wore cheetah print which is code for beta s3x kitten slavery...

coincidence? hmm perhaps
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okay but this is a 5kz thread, and theyre not even on the same company :/
 

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yeah sorry lol i should have posted this in the other thread. I can delete if you want me to
no its ok, just dont derail the thread :)

why does my "contribution" not show up and is waiting for moderator's approval :////
well you sure showed up now.

anyways, 5kz is releasing another mixtape, "Mixtape : Kids'" idk but the name "kids" doesnt sit right with me.

and i want to ask all of your opinions about each members :)
 

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i posted a pic of what I wrote hehe

kids? looks like this word's gonna stay glued to them even after becoming grown ups. So the lollipop, is it related to "kids"?

Giving my opinion abt the members would be very funny bc it really looks like their company gave them an exact personality upon which they should act in front of the camera, so while it may or may not be that different from their real personality that only them know about, almost every move they do is scripted but what can they do? it's the dirty business in the dirty industry
thats what i thought too, they only rely on scandals to make the spotlight on them which is sad ngl, but its a smart marketing move, but ofc theres a price to pay, their reputation is kinda ugly bc of how many scandals they have, or they just have shady members, i never rlly trust idols cause theyre extremely fake, hiding behind a decent makeup and hair.

and ab the "kids", theyre adults now, idk why they still want to make themselves look younger or act younger than they are. i remember in photoshoots, hj and fl was licking lollipops, and in cl1o photshoot without hj, its minho who has gottwn lollipop as a prop along with fl, i feel like the dance r4cha is the ppl who has the most offers? or who gives offers bc of their pretty visuals, in photoshoots, they are always together and making suggestive moves.
 

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thats what i thought too, they only rely on scandals to make the spotlight on them which is sad ngl, but its a smart marketing move, but ofc theres a price to pay, their reputation is kinda ugly bc of how many scandals they have, or they just have shady members, i never rlly trust idols cause theyre extremely fake, hiding behind a decent makeup and hair.

and ab the "kids", theyre adults now, idk why they still want to make themselves look younger or act younger than they are. i remember in photoshoots, hj and fl was licking lollipops, and in cl1o photshoot without hj, its minho who has gottwn lollipop as a prop along with fl, i feel like the dance r4cha is the ppl who has the most offers? or who gives offers bc of their pretty visuals, in photoshoots, they are always together and making suggestive moves.
they're young men not kids anymore
 

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also, i noticed that in the OH mv, hj is painting one eye, but i cant find a pict anywhere and i dont want to watch the mv
 

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also, i noticed that in the OH mv, hj is painting one eye, but i cant find a pict anywhere and i dont want to watch the mv
nvm found it lol :)

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hj is painting an eye :) it looks so cool
 

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I beg y'all not to listen to that latest song they released "dr*ve".
Only God knows how better the society would be if those kind of dirty songs didn't exist. so u know agenda and all lol. I didn't listen to it ofc btw I just read the lyrics (not all) but everyone says it's a dirty song. I can't help but think abt their pervert boss, tho I know he isn't the first one nor the last but still and he didn't invent dirty lyrics as well as dirty lifestyle, but will the pervert want his subordinates to stay far from pervetedness? I doubt.

"but they are grown up" I promise grown up or not, disgusting is still disgusting even if 100% normalized.

The way I wrote this whole paragraph is weird but this applies to ANY dirty song in the whole world but yeah I don't remember them writing such lyrics as skz (maybe as 3racha? Idk that's what i saw in this thread) but now looks like this new era might be another nauseating step towards the depth of the industry (tbh whether disg. song or not it's still in the industry, so we do not doubt that it's never pure intention even if it's "love yourself" kinda song).
i'd rather have them write songs about that rather than write songs about blood sacrifice or something. like, dr1ve is like a nursery rhyme compared to g0d's menu or b4ck door, which is definetly about eating, drinking human bodies or sacrifice.

btw its weird that no one mention ry4n reyn0lds, why do u guys think he went all out to show his support to 5kz? i feel like its just to promote his company tbh, cause i feel like its basic pop culture knowledge to know how crazy kpop fans is to hype their group and also everyone who is involved withh teir group, ry4n basically promoted his gin brand to 5kz and st4ys lol.
 
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imo none of them are better in terms of horror tho, even tho the 2 latter are less obvious

aahhhh I didn't know it was R.R's brand, I thought he was the one who was promoting skz since I heard that Ryan was pretty popular is S.K, anyways the whole thing felt like a hugely paid promotion but none of my business
wait, r.r is actually famous in sk? i didnt know that, now it all makes sense, obviously a pr stunt. and yes, the 4viation gin is r.r's brand, he sent them to 5kz right away after BC mentioned him and gave his photograph along with merch right away, i think thats just sooo weird idk, like it all happened so fast. and its weird how he said that the members are the one who came up with the deadp0ol themed performance, with the pr stunt with r.r, i doubt its actually them who came up with it, bc said he likes deadp00l tho so idk, but the whole situation is just weird to me, i cant put it into words.

anyways, im interested to see how hj will act in the next comeback that will be on august, lets hope he doesnt go blonde
 

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View attachment 58347View attachment 58348this can't just be a metaphor, also not the first time they said it afaik

talk about choosing the left hand path.

for those who don't know what is meant by the right hand path and left hand path, check this video, whether muslim or not. This sequence speaks about the magicians' system (automatically starts at 18:25)
its not the first time they did this concept either in their performances, how they were the ones being controlled but then they take over and control the ones who controlled them. tbh, i think its just for aesthetic purposes lol, cause they are definetly still controlled, but its funny how there were a lot of st4ys saying that jaywhypee is actually afraid of 5kz, their deadp00l performance was highkey shading jaywhypee bc theres a sign saying "jaywhypee is an idiot" which is kind of shady ngl, but its funny to see it cause we all know how shady that man is, and he has many of his artists complaining about the company treating their idols like trash, esp male idols, they only treat their girl groups better. i also heard that the fans tend to blame jaywhypee for everything, while they shoulve blame the management team instead, fans are stupid, always believe what they see on camera, so what do they expect?

but nonetheless, idk what made them has this kind of theme for a long time and decided to still stick with it up until now. i feel like their mv plays a huge part, it started on dstrict 9, where they escaped the ones who control them, to b4ck door which they embraced their evil nature.
 

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Okay so this is my interpretation of symbolism in their Levanter music video.

Here's the official music video



0:02: Duality on their clothes



1:13: Pretty sure this is predictive programming to the new world order



1:25: Moon worship



1:45: They burned the ticket maybe they didn’t like that option or path



2:01 They walk away with the two moons separate from each other. The distance represents something



2:05: They arrive at an another door/path



2:15: They pass through with chan the leader leading them



2:25: IN hesitates but chan encourages him to get in



The two moons in the “new world” they entered are coming together symbolizing something
YES I noticed this too bc I started noticing these things in kpop groups and I didn’t want to look into stray kids at first bc after being introduced I was weirdly obsessed (maybe not obsessed but I started watching a bunch of edits and things like that which I never do bc being a “fan” of an artist or people is not something I do) but anyways

In the dance that hy0nj1n did to the play with fire song I noticed that he had put up
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And also i don’t think I’m rlly stretching but I felt like this was some one eye symbol thing right here but when he put up the It was during like fire cackling sounds and I felt it was random

I honestly didn’t rlly like this video but what are you guys thoughts?
 

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YES I noticed this too bc I started noticing these things in kpop groups and I didn’t want to look into stray kids at first bc after being introduced I was weirdly obsessed (maybe not obsessed but I started watching a bunch of edits and things like that which I never do bc being a “fan” of an artist or people is not something I do) but anyways

In the dance that hy0nj1n did to the play with fire song I noticed that he had put up
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And also i don’t think I’m rlly stretching but I felt like this was some one eye symbol thing right here but when he put up the It was during like fire cackling sounds and I felt it was random

I honestly didn’t rlly like this video but what are you guys thoughts?
the second picture looks a sexual pose or something, mimic oral sex maybe ??
 

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she is a 5 star michelin


i think its an individual thing, there are too many circumstances of how and why they became an idol
omg yes they hug so awkwardly, glad im not the only one who noticed that, at least they getting food tho lmao.


did they just may or may not purposely called st4ys a bunch of insects who work for them towards a certain goal? because thats a good analogy for what a fandom is, their fans are voting crazy just like other fandom does. also, they literally beg their fans a lot for voting for them, fel talked about it in bubble on how st4ys are their only hope and whatever happens or will happen, it is in the hand of st4ys, and i was like, sir youre literally begging for them to vote, this is so sad. and hj cried in the stage while begging for st4ys to not leave, i feel like theres a pattern here, they only use their fans to help them towards a certain goal and thats what bees are all about.


yeah, and i bet he is not okay with it since fans literally call him a pig all the time, like, the other members seem to get normal animals and then there cb...


yea exactly, i wonder why, he could not just say that as a joke or sumn, also remember when fans blame jype's wifi because bc's live is lagging? and then he literally quick to scold them telling them "please dont blame everything on jyp, they have good wifi" lmao like g0t7 hate jyp so much and then theres this guy.


idk, i think its an asian features thing, thats why non kpop stans always say "they all look the same", i dont see it because im used to it but yeah its soo weird that they look almost identical, especially sm and w0npil.


i remember back when i was still in the bt5 thread, we talked about bt5 having a handler within the group, and i dont want to frame the guy as "the evil one" or sumn, but he does gives me cult leader vibes as i mentioned.
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they’re lowkey laughing
 

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I mean don't the higher-ups whatever they are make the artists that want fame and wealth believe that if they give them what they want they will in return make them "powerful" (famous, wealthy, worthy of people's love, admiration, even worship ew), so I wonder if some of them truly think that they are unstoppable but they don't know that they are in reality sick in the heart. that's the transaction.

but the main problem here is how this theme, even if it's only for aesthetic purpose, is being promoted and normalized for millions of people; egotism, pride, narcissism, whether it is their intention or not. It is that deep, humans should know their place.

haha maybe that "jyp is an idiot" is a kind of "fan-service", u know when ur fav uses an (not-so)inside joke and it excites the whole fandom. Still, jyp "humbling" himself in front of the grp, them making fun of him in a song, in a performance, jyp apparently asking skz's approval + they were known to have more power than jyp since years, is it only a concept? I'm not necessarily doubting that it can't be deeper than a concept but even if they kept this storyline since the beginning, a few people aren't believing that grp members were 100% handpicked by a trainee (even though the opposition a admits hat " it's obvious bc all sub have to get their sup's approval") and also believe that the final version of some of their songs they release are mainly the product of other producers, that they don't have THAT much power or control overall (as we are shown).

And btw this grp apparently chose their name themselves during the survival show but jyp filed for the trademark for "stray kids" in may 2017 whereas, if I'm not mistaken, they were chosen as the team to debut in august 2017, and after they had to chose a name but?
its the same old concept either, i can like list 20 groups who have had the same concept. and yes, i still believe theyre not at all mighty and how the fans said like "oh jaywhypee is scared of them" like what? how do u know? theyre literally under his and the manager's control. if they are so mighty, they wouldve left jaywhypee and make their own company like got7 does because of how bad the company treats them, literally ALL of jaywhypee's idols doesnt like how he treats them and demands to leave the company because theyre not allowed to do anything under certain circumstances and that is to get the permissiom first. all of these idols leaving and destroying jaywhypee and then theres b4ng ch4n getting mad at st4ys because the company's wifi is shit and telling them not to blame jaywhypee, lol theyre his guardians i guess.

anyways, 5kz is 2021 dubai korea pavillion ambassadors now and the event will be held in this oct to march next year, there will be weekly performances of kpop idols including 5kz of course
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idk about u guys but this is pretty big
 

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YES I noticed this too bc I started noticing these things in kpop groups and I didn’t want to look into stray kids at first bc after being introduced I was weirdly obsessed (maybe not obsessed but I started watching a bunch of edits and things like that which I never do bc being a “fan” of an artist or people is not something I do) but anyways

In the dance that hy0nj1n did to the play with fire song I noticed that he had put up
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And also i don’t think I’m rlly stretching but I felt like this was some one eye symbol thing right here but when he put up the It was during like fire cackling sounds and I felt it was random

I honestly didn’t rlly like this video but what are you guys thoughts?
the poses and dance moves are so suggestive. theres a picture by st4ys saying that they saw hj in a restaurant and his hair seems to be blonde, but they still dont know of its really him or not since the pict is far away, but if he rlly does goes blonde, my prediction is accurate, im dissappointed, and im not surprised.

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they’re lowkey laughing
theyre besties 4lyfeeerrrr

also, guys, i wanna know if u guys watch ch4n's room? i saw it on ig a lot and it seems so boring and messy, and i hate everytime he becomes fake deep and wise giving advices and stuff like that, and the stuff he said is not rlly that good and so basic, like a tumblr quote or something, like "dont be sad, no matter what youre feeling, it will go away, lets be happy together, im here for you" and depression rates decreases to 0.sorry if im being rude, but his vlive is so boring and st4ys anticipate it everytime and for what? to watch a grown man listening to songs? and theres this one time he literally unboxes a mouse....a computer mouse....and then he said "i dont know if its going to be good, i will try it and then i will give you guys an update" and i was like is this a tech channel? am i watching a tech review? this has nothing to do with whatever shit they do. or am i missing the point of what a vlive is? like what made him think that st4ys, a bunch of teenage girls, cares about a computer mouse?
 

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the lyrics for "all in" just reminds me of satan who wanna bring everyone into the hellfire

Ah, 2020 We're gonna get 'em
Stray Kids in the building
We're gonna go all in
Just do whatever we want
HoIla at y'all
Ey, let's go



fire and all. Anyways no need for me to analyze every lyric but it is about do whatever you want
two of the writers are jyp and 3racha

p.s: If you do not feel shame, do what you wish
thou what you wilt concept, a classic.

I don't watch but I still wonder if the hype this group gets would be the same if this weekly vlive episode didn't exist. It's about the whole persona, we could make a big study of and the effects are clear ahem . Even if the advices are tumblry like u said haha people will still hold on to any bit of "comfort" they find and automatically see it as sincere. But I've seen people wondering how can people sit thru any kind of vlive so fortunately not all of them are that hyped and excited to strictly follow a routine to excitedly share it with their fellow fans on twitter or else esp. that a lot don't understand what is being said, even if there might be live translation and the host speaks english sometimes
fr, they can just say any meaningless shit and the fans would say that they helped them though their depression or something, which i doubt they have, this generation is too dramatic when it comes to mental health, they feel sad for a couple of days and call it depression. but the more sad and low ur energy are, the more vulnerable you are, thus why kpop stans have this massive, creepy, way of stanning an idol. if this guy dont do his weekly vlive for just a week, st4ys would be sad, like they just lost something important, saying "i miss him" you could literally look up pictures of him on google and call it a day, theyre turning into 4rmys and i find st4ys everywhere now, theyre rlly creepy, do they even know that their behaviour is disgusting?
 
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thou what you wilt concept, a classic.


fr, they can just say any meaningless shit and the fans would say that they helped them though their depression or something, which i doubt they have, this generation is too dramatic when it comes to mental health, they feel sad for a couple of days and call it depression. but the more sad and low ur energy are, the more vulnerable you are, thus why kpop stans have this massive, creepy, way of stanning an idol. if this guy dont do his weekly vlive for just a week, st4ys would be sad, like they just lost something important, saying "i miss him" you could literally look up pictures of him on google and call it a day, theyre turning into 4rmys and i find st4ys everywhere now, theyre rlly creepy, do they even know that their behaviour is disgusting?
this is just fake love, most of them just care about fangirling and wanna satiate their eyes bc they (as we all know, this is no secret) love the persona they are watching (esp. the outer beauty until they feel it as a true connection and bond, but it is an illusion) and it's kinda worse if they know that it's a mere fake personality but still weirdly obssess over bc if it was a movie or a series then the whole world knows that it's acting but the way celebrities act irl is presented as the truth although what is hidden is a big lie but it somewhat ends up as a unidimensional existence, either 100% good or 100% bad

So we can say that it's an eye for an eye. Neither the artists love their fans like they pretend nor the fans love their favs as they say.

if this guy dont do his weekly vlive for just a week, st4ys would be sad, like they just lost something important, saying "i miss him"
hilarious when they write "i'm sad ))))): but their health is more important ))))): "
I didn't dive into their intention but I have yet to meet someone who doesn't prioritize what they're fangirling to, maybe it would be easy to differentiate?

sorry but it just sounds like they are saying the most humane things while they are winking at each other, in the fandom, hoping to get a reward from their fav bc they expressed how they care about him/her.

I admit what I said sounds condescending
 
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