off course there are many groups better than Bts, the list is longWhat you said I completely understood. But just with these concepts they can't go top and reach America. Otherwise BAP would be famous in America already. Moreover...
1. Other groups are more handsome and has strong appearance than btes, look them up.
2. They blew up in America after using demian book. And that monster recommended armys to read that book and let me tell you Ive read that and its purely about how to change your preconcieved notion of religion and start to think bad stuffs as good, eg in the book it says Cain is good from the perspective of he is more strong and has power over Abel to survive. At one point of the book it justifies a murderers action. The book explains how a good household Christian boy started to embrace the dark world and he gradually became addict to drink, started to worship the mother of his best friend Demian and he found all his happiness and desirable warmth in her. At the end of the story demian kissed sinclair(the main character) and said its the kiss of her mother and continued the bullsh*t how its spiritually awakening and life saving. I wonder what kind book is this to recommend fans where many are 12-17 years old and armys did empty the stock of this book from libraries.
3. Other groups also promote sobe concept, they don't blow up in America.
4. If you look at groups like BAP, BTOB, VIXX they have more meaningful concept. They didn't blow up in America.
5. More than half of the population is irreligious in south korea and their lifestyle is very secular, its not anything exclusive to rise up in fame.
6. Why I talked about demian-- you say bst is just based on fiction, but Ive nowhere seen to say "peaches and cream" in the book. And look up for the choreography of this part, thats not based on book, there weren't any mention of having sex in the entire book, let alone saying anything in detail. And don't forget the symbol of initiation in masonry where someone blindfolds the apprentice, its not based on book. Back them 2017 t4e did admit he became apprentice and so his father gifted him a Swedish watch.
7. About symbols, I don't think exaggerated symbols have any meaning. Eg, anyone doing one eye sign won't make them satanic. Anyone getting shot or showing blood won't make them ''gonna be sacrifice". In fact, artists being sacrificed for another artist is exaggerated and dubious theory. Or symbols like someone is mind controlled, cloned etc is purely fictional. Someone showing abit skull and voodoo dolls won't make them occultic.
But not everything is meaningless. You really can't say some symbols food eg and sexual lyrics don't have any meaning. What I quoted about icecream, this is a message for $ugar daddies. Ive done some research on ladies code, BAP, BTOB, VIXX, who did show typical dark signs, but lyrics and mvs were perfectly matched with each other, not anything like using demian book concept and suddenly singing peaches and cream. I haven't seen any sexual disturbing message from any of them, not from the mvs, lyrics, concept, jacket shooting etc But when look at some groups who rise up too fast eg, Blackpink boombayah, look at the choreography of "I don't want a boy, I need a man" You can't say its not calling. Btes did show feline print, lying on bed and they did look like boys in massage parlor, I haven't seen anything like this from those groups. Btes write their own music right? don't y'all see the lyrics they write by themselves ----
I haven't seen anyone from BAP, BTOB, VIXX, Ladies code doing serious blasphemy where btes sings eg "God don't have manner". I haven't seen anyone from them singing like btes "Placed myself as graded cut meat, I just wanted to be famous"
it just shows their desperation to go on top by su**ing d***. Icecream, filled with disturbing lyrics with childs theme, and sk isn't innocent about underage people. Remember the biggest Child porn site was ran by a 23 years old south korean man, which contained huge 8 terabytes of videos of child abuse and sex.
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https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1373752970895101952/pu/vid/1280x592/B0Qramav9DXsEfMX.mp4?tag=12 what is this?? how was this allowed?vigilantcitizenforums.com
Just imagine how many childrean were abused and how many abusers were there in those videos. Remember hyuna made an mv showing some signs in the industry, underages are being sexualized, just scroll through some of some comments unde the video thats enoughBTS discussion thread
I’m so confused. Taehyung’s cousin (idk if he actually is his cousin but that’s what army are saying) has deleted his account after getting many followers. He’s also wearing very expensive clothing so I’m assuming Taehyung’s family were never poor in the first place. I wonder why he deleted his...
Don't forget all p3dophile and sexual messages from btes, from dynamite and butter, you can't find this sorta theme in other groups. All those interviews with code words and b0y lov3r sign, aren't seen in not so famous groups.
Btes is always called next beatles even by American interviewers right?
Don't think they aren't in stuff like this after those p3do symbols
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And you say they need to appeal hollywood people to get in America, remember Hollyweird is a huge circus of p3dofiles and something like this appeals those p3dos. See how comment section is turned off, many people are aware of the bizarre situation of hollyweird. Remember Icecream truck means male prostitution+child traffickers, donut and childlike food symbols to show children, see by youself.
You have to be discreet whom you follow, they aren't nice people and not just businessman.
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I apologize if this comes across as off-topic, although I feel like it's on topic enough to not be weirdly out of place...
Before I get going with this, I know I've been super inactive on here for a really, really long time. I don't think I'll be able to get caught up with the discussion since the time I disappeared so I'm sorry for missing so much of what you guys have said!
Lately I've been thinking about how the heck BT$ got so popular. They came from a crazy tiny company that was on the brink of bankruptcy. They were talented but their production was meh, their music was meh. They caught my attention cause they were unique and weren't famous (yet). But even back then, I wasn't that interested. Based on the interactions I had with other casual fans/listeners, and even people who were buying their music and listening to it all the time, their fanbase was small and normal acting. Their fans didn't take them that seriously, just liked the music and that was that.
Then all of a sudden, 2017 kicks off with EVERYTHING about BT$. They got some decent success and following with the HYYH albums, and a bit more with Wings. But their following even back then was still small and not that intense. It really looks like overnight they went from moderately known to crazy popular. And I seriously doubt that being on Ellen was what skyrocketed them.
PD either bought their fame, or bribed a bunch of big-shots in television to promote the hell out of them, OR he also did something very dubious to increase their luck at fame. I'm generally not one to believe in spiritual or otherworldly things, but it is just way too bizarre that they exploded in fame the way they did.
And it really bothers me the way they keep getting all of this fame and fortune when other groups are working their asses off and playing the game fairly, but not seeing even remotely the same success.
And how come the other groups in B!g H!t are still only moderately known? It's like PD is seriously terrible at promoting the other groups he made, without using some dubious means to make them successful. You would think that groups like TXT, GFriend, would rise dramatically in popularity because of being associated with B!g H!t. But nope. That also leads me to believe that he did some kind of sacrifice or some other weird thing to jumpstart BT$. But also, why? Why was it so necessary for BT$ to be the ones that get that jumpstart?
On another note, I'd be shocked if BT$ willfully disband this year, or ever, for that matter. There's no way with all the brainwashing that they would disband. What will most likely happen, is one of the members will do something so scandalous that BH can't cover it up no matter how hard they try. And just like what happened with Big B@ng, that member will get kicked out of the group. BT$'s followers/fans will have heart attacks about them not being OT7 anymore. Their popularity will plummet. The ejected member will have a strong following still of fans who "forgive him". Slowly BT$ will drift farther and farther into the background. Then another member will do something scandalous, and that will spell the end of BT$. Someone (probably YG or TH) will go solo out of disgust over what's going on. Whoever goes solo won't stay with BH either, they'll move to a different label, or go indie. At that point, the remaining members will try to hang on but wither away just like Super Juni0r did. And that will be the most probable end of BT$.
Before I get going with this, I know I've been super inactive on here for a really, really long time. I don't think I'll be able to get caught up with the discussion since the time I disappeared so I'm sorry for missing so much of what you guys have said!
Lately I've been thinking about how the heck BT$ got so popular. They came from a crazy tiny company that was on the brink of bankruptcy. They were talented but their production was meh, their music was meh. They caught my attention cause they were unique and weren't famous (yet). But even back then, I wasn't that interested. Based on the interactions I had with other casual fans/listeners, and even people who were buying their music and listening to it all the time, their fanbase was small and normal acting. Their fans didn't take them that seriously, just liked the music and that was that.
Then all of a sudden, 2017 kicks off with EVERYTHING about BT$. They got some decent success and following with the HYYH albums, and a bit more with Wings. But their following even back then was still small and not that intense. It really looks like overnight they went from moderately known to crazy popular. And I seriously doubt that being on Ellen was what skyrocketed them.
PD either bought their fame, or bribed a bunch of big-shots in television to promote the hell out of them, OR he also did something very dubious to increase their luck at fame. I'm generally not one to believe in spiritual or otherworldly things, but it is just way too bizarre that they exploded in fame the way they did.
And it really bothers me the way they keep getting all of this fame and fortune when other groups are working their asses off and playing the game fairly, but not seeing even remotely the same success.
And how come the other groups in B!g H!t are still only moderately known? It's like PD is seriously terrible at promoting the other groups he made, without using some dubious means to make them successful. You would think that groups like TXT, GFriend, would rise dramatically in popularity because of being associated with B!g H!t. But nope. That also leads me to believe that he did some kind of sacrifice or some other weird thing to jumpstart BT$. But also, why? Why was it so necessary for BT$ to be the ones that get that jumpstart?
On another note, I'd be shocked if BT$ willfully disband this year, or ever, for that matter. There's no way with all the brainwashing that they would disband. What will most likely happen, is one of the members will do something so scandalous that BH can't cover it up no matter how hard they try. And just like what happened with Big B@ng, that member will get kicked out of the group. BT$'s followers/fans will have heart attacks about them not being OT7 anymore. Their popularity will plummet. The ejected member will have a strong following still of fans who "forgive him". Slowly BT$ will drift farther and farther into the background. Then another member will do something scandalous, and that will spell the end of BT$. Someone (probably YG or TH) will go solo out of disgust over what's going on. Whoever goes solo won't stay with BH either, they'll move to a different label, or go indie. At that point, the remaining members will try to hang on but wither away just like Super Juni0r did. And that will be the most probable end of BT$.
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The plastic surgery too.
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That's the most believable thing I've read. There's a vocal group of S3ungri supporters on twitter. He's trending and saying people need to hear his side. The way Armys support them even when something controversial happens, whatever the scandal is has to be big. S3ungri level or worse. Another poster talked about companys setting their artists up so that other groups can thrive. A form of pruning or gardening. Kind of sick because these are people's lives and careers. What about JK, will he go solo? He's acting more edgy but less stable. I've read so many of your posts as a lurker. So excited to see you posting.
A bit off topic Tony blair( a masonic higher up) was given the title "Knight of Malta" , Malta? 
are we seeing some connections here? and I read somewhere in this thread that b@ng got a knight as a present. these ppl are defnt deep in the masons , prob not very high tho
are we seeing some connections here? and I read somewhere in this thread that b@ng got a knight as a present. these ppl are defnt deep in the masons , prob not very high thoHello! I came back to lurk and saw your post
I think BTS were designed to atract american fans, remember their first reality show AMERICAN hustle life. A show about them going to AMERICA.
their early music was very influnced by hip hop and RM always talking about the US and their culture.
And They were always desperate, since debut, they would do anything for fame (they say that in their songs) so they are the perfect puppets. Easy to control, and to follow every order to get money and awards.
with the years they became even more desperate, asking for a Grammy every chance they get
And dressing like women when needed
I don't know for how long they will last.
But the reason I stopped watching their shows is that they became so repetitive (Jinn worldwide handsome, RM clumsy. Sugar Grammy) it was always the same script.
Besides they are close to 30 years old and still call Army their everything
Even Blackpink members date in public. EXO members get married. But BTS continue to feed the fans delusions because their fame is not about their music. it's about the parasocial relationship they have with Army. They created that prison for themselves
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I haven't listened to them since late November last year but what I remember from my time as a fan of bt5 is that they have a very organized fandom and a lot of their popularity is fake. Most of the views on their Mvs before butter and dynamite are due to fans mindlessly streaming on 10 devices 24/7 I also heard that the only reason they were called to American shows in the beginning (2017-18) was because they were the most requested artists (basically Armies would spam the polls to get them on American shows). x-0 used to have a very strong fanbase which rivaled bt5 in voting but in 2017 MAMA rigged the award system to make bt5 win all of the big awards despite the fact that x-0 were ahead in both voting and sales which are the deciding factors for winning most awards in 2017 their are rumors that the MAMA staff mistreated exols after which a portion of exols started boycotting MAMA and MMA awards after this event x-0 popularity started to decline or stagnated. The other 2 groups who could possibly blow up in America were Sh1nee and B1gbang BB have been on hiatus since 2016 so we can't say maybe if they make a comeback in 2021 they might blow up but after Burning sun In a post me-too society I don't think that America will accept them like they did with bt5 and we all know what happened with Sh1nee in 2017 still I think shinee has a chance if 5m promotes them in America especially Tm and Key as soloists.What you said I completely understood. But just with these concepts they can't go top and reach America. Otherwise BAP would be famous in America already. Moreover...
1. Other groups are more handsome and has strong appearance than btes, look them up.
2. They blew up in America after using demian book. And that monster recommended armys to read that book and let me tell you Ive read that and its purely about how to change your preconcieved notion of religion and start to think bad stuffs as good, eg in the book it says Cain is good from the perspective of he is more strong and has power over Abel to survive. At one point of the book it justifies a murderers action. The book explains how a good household Christian boy started to embrace the dark world and he gradually became addict to drink, started to worship the mother of his best friend Demian and he found all his happiness and desirable warmth in her. At the end of the story demian kissed sinclair(the main character) and said its the kiss of her mother and continued the bullsh*t how its spiritually awakening and life saving. I wonder what kind book is this to recommend fans where many are 12-17 years old and armys did empty the stock of this book from libraries.
3. Other groups also promote sobe concept, they don't blow up in America.
4. If you look at groups like BAP, BTOB, VIXX they have more meaningful concept. They didn't blow up in America.
5. More than half of the population is irreligious in south korea and their lifestyle is very secular, its not anything exclusive to rise up in fame.
6. Why I talked about demian-- you say bst is just based on fiction, but Ive nowhere seen to say "peaches and cream" in the book. And look up for the choreography of this part, thats not based on book, there weren't any mention of having sex in the entire book, let alone saying anything in detail. And don't forget the symbol of initiation in masonry where someone blindfolds the apprentice, its not based on book. Back them 2017 t4e did admit he became apprentice and so his father gifted him a Swedish watch.
7. About symbols, I don't think exaggerated symbols have any meaning. Eg, anyone doing one eye sign won't make them satanic. Anyone getting shot or showing blood won't make them ''gonna be sacrifice". In fact, artists being sacrificed for another artist is exaggerated and dubious theory. Or symbols like someone is mind controlled, cloned etc is purely fictional. Someone showing abit skull and voodoo dolls won't make them occultic.
But not everything is meaningless. You really can't say some symbols food eg and sexual lyrics don't have any meaning. What I quoted about icecream, this is a message for $ugar daddies. Ive done some research on ladies code, BAP, BTOB, VIXX, who did show typical dark signs, but lyrics and mvs were perfectly matched with each other, not anything like using demian book concept and suddenly singing peaches and cream. I haven't seen any sexual disturbing message from any of them, not from the mvs, lyrics, concept, jacket shooting etc But when look at some groups who rise up too fast eg, Blackpink boombayah, look at the choreography of "I don't want a boy, I need a man" You can't say its not calling. Btes did show feline print, lying on bed and they did look like boys in massage parlor, I haven't seen anything like this from those groups. Btes write their own music right? don't y'all see the lyrics they write by themselves ----
I haven't seen anyone from BAP, BTOB, VIXX, Ladies code doing serious blasphemy where btes sings eg "God don't have manner". I haven't seen anyone from them singing like btes "Placed myself as graded cut meat, I just wanted to be famous"
it just shows their desperation to go on top by su**ing d***. Icecream, filled with disturbing lyrics with childs theme, and sk isn't innocent about underage people. Remember the biggest Child porn site was ran by a 23 years old south korean man, which contained huge 8 terabytes of videos of child abuse and sex.BTS discussion thread
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1373752970895101952/pu/vid/1280x592/B0Qramav9DXsEfMX.mp4?tag=12 what is this?? how was this allowed?
Just imagine how many childrean were abused and how many abusers were there in those videos. Remember hyuna made an mv showing some signs in the industry, underages are being sexualized, just scroll through some of some comments unde the video thats enoughBTS discussion thread
I’m so confused. Taehyung’s cousin (idk if he actually is his cousin but that’s what army are saying) has deleted his account after getting many followers. He’s also wearing very expensive clothing so I’m assuming Taehyung’s family were never poor in the first place. I wonder why he deleted his...
Don't forget all p3dophile and sexual messages from btes, from dynamite and butter, you can't find this sorta theme in other groups. All those interviews with code words and b0y lov3r sign, aren't seen in not so famous groups.
Btes is always called next beatles even by American interviewers right?
Don't think they aren't in stuff like this after those p3do symbols
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And you say they need to appeal hollywood people to get in America, remember Hollyweird is a huge circus of p3dofiles and something like this appeals those p3dos. See how comment section is turned off, many people are aware of the bizarre situation of hollyweird. Remember Icecream truck means male prostitution+child traffickers, donut and childlike food symbols to show children, see by youself.
You have to be discreet whom you follow, they aren't nice people and not just businessman.
I don't know why they blew up or how they blew up but I can say confidently that they had the elites backing them up. I don't think symbolisms like them doing one eye or showing pyramids in their Mvs are indicators of anything I don't believe in sacrifice or MK ultra theories anymore either because I've found plenty of holes in both these theories. But using sexual lyrics or using pedo codes and symbolism could be a way for them to please their sugar daddies because we all know what kind of people run hollywood it could be possible that when these people say they sold their souls to the devil they mean selling themselves as "toys" for the elites.
I haven't read Demian but I know it's basic premise them using that book for a concept was the reason I stopped being a fan because the message in that book was anti-religious sure most of these groups and sk is irreligious but not many are "Anti-religious" or purposefully target religion like they did in bst plus Rm wrote a song called "God's Rap" in 2016 in which he commit Blasphemy against God so the difference between bt5 and other groups is that bt5 are very straightforward about the blasphemy they commit against God and what hurts me the most is their non-athiest fans choose to ignore this. Just go read the comments on God's rap lyric videos I was surprised to find Muslims defending Rm saying he isn't doing any blasphemy and its just a concept the hold they have on their fans is on another level. I don't know how they got such a dedicated fandom but Armies are a force to be reckoned with.
P.S I don't care about who blew up or why anymore and I don't believe that occult symbolisms like one eye "always" mean something because not everyone who uses these symbolisms blows up and even if their is a correlation who cares? I know now that they are spreading evil ideas and I should be protecting myself from them and if you are a Muslim (or Christian) you would know that it is a sign of the judgement day that there will be an abundance of "singers" and athiesm/sexual immorality/LGBTQ+ would be common so even if they don't show any symbolisms as long as they are promoting sexual immorality or athiesm or any other evil social agendas they are considered as followers of "Antichrist" regardless of their level of fame.
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You are not the only one who's having these thoughts and questions.
After doing a lot of research about the American music industry/Hollywood and what you have to do to make it big. And seeing these things so visible on Bt5, I decided to make a video showing what Bt5 did to achieve this great and sudden success in America.
The Video is called: BTS:The Initiation | Why hasn't anyone noticed this?
I hope that everything or at least some things will make sense after you watch it.
you are right about armys spamming everywhere
back then people hated Armys because they spammed Youtube with comments "any ARmy here XD"
now thinking about it, idk if it was really Army or Bighit staff trying to give the group more visibility
But even with all the backing they have from American TV shows, Grammys and now Mc Donalds, the general public still not familiar with their music like that, these past weeks I saw a lot of articles calling their charting inorganic.
At the end of the day, the media will keep pushing BTS, as long as they keep acting like the perfect puppets
the only thing against them is their age, probably JK will continue as a solo in the upcoming years and the others will lose relevacy
I just watched the video, it's very nice
But this is not only about Holyywood, the korean entertainment industry is just as bad, full of abusers that take advantage of kids
Idols forced to have PS and do diets, not eating for days
And remember BTS are best friends with the Korean president, at this point they are really into it, and some of them brag about their power everytime they can
At least Sugar in his lyrics appears to be very proud of the deal he made to be so rich
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It doesn't help that they openly smack of desperation. I'll never know why anyone wants to be famous, it really goes over my head, sounds horrendous.. it makes you a target though, desperation is a weakness.Hello! I came back to lurk and saw your post
I think BTS were designed to atract american fans, remember their first reality show AMERICAN hustle life. A show about them going to AMERICA.
their early music was very influnced by hip hop and RM always talking about the US and their culture.
And They were always desperate, since debut, they would do anything for fame (they say that in their songs) so they are the perfect puppets. Easy to control, and to follow every order to get money and awards.
with the years they became even more desperate, asking for a Grammy every chance they get
And dressing like women when needed
I don't know for how long they will last.
But the reason I stopped watching their shows is that they became so repetitive (Jinn worldwide handsome, RM clumsy. Sugar Grammy) it was always the same script.
Besides they are close to 30 years old and still call Army their everything
Even Blackpink members date in public. EXO members get married. But BTS continue to feed the fans delusions because their fame is not about their music. it's about the parasocial relationship they have with Army. They created that prison for themselves
very true, but they always had that desperation about them.
that's why they are the perfect puppets for this job
they keep begging for awards
and they completely sold out and contradicted themselves
But now they only sing in English and barely do korean pop anymore. No credibility
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Exactly, that desperation can be massively exploited, and it doesn't have to mean they are high up with the cult/s (they could be!) they do certainly seem to have the (almost perfect) components to influence millions of people, so they are absolutely used by the cult/s to push agendas. Either way they are feeding energetically to the Occult practices.
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They could do, I really don't follow anything they do now as I feel like attention to them also adds to the Occult influence in the form of my energy, so they can't have it, I severed it. i was a fan since 2013, so they're kinda old news to me. If they want to do that to lower themselves for fame it's not on me, it's on them, and it wont be worth it in the end.
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I just had a quick flyby through here to see if anything interesting is happening. Always nice to see new faces waking up though. Welcome all new faces, frequenters and lurkers.
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I did see that one, I ain't denying they're in anything. You do have to eventually free yourself from them entirely though or you'll be stuck in a rage tether with them, still feeding the beast. Believe me, it's still an energetic binding. But I had to go through the process, almost like grieving, I do truly believe they have some form of magik or actual tech to brainwash in their music.
agree 100%
people really don't know the effect music has on the brain.
not to mention BT-S are involved with some type of Brain Education cult (that I believe has influence in their music too)
that's why their fans act like a cult
But I agree that giving too much energy to them is never good, negative or positive
Hey everyone
Been lurking on this thread for a while and will be posting some of my thoughts/observations on here too now.
I discovered K pop some months ago and quickly began to notice all the sinister symbolism etc.
Though I have been observing and digging about the whole industry/ mind-control agenda etc. for a while.
Especially the most recent Butter comeback seems really sinister to me, but especially their character change is really apparent.
Like they look so done with each other, and their eyes are literally evil and lifeless.
I wonder how they interact with each other behind the cameras...
Anyway, here is one of my most recent observations, from a recent promo pic on their insta.
It sent shivers down my spine and made me mad.
Notice on this pic of V, not only the watermelon he is holding (also: think watermelon sugar high by Harry Styles), but his pants.
The pattern on it.
(Reminder):
It is infuriating how they flaunt such things and 99.9% of fans etc. do not take notice.
I also noticed some other instances of the spiral pattern occurring in promo pics especially with V.
Been lurking on this thread for a while and will be posting some of my thoughts/observations on here too now.
I discovered K pop some months ago and quickly began to notice all the sinister symbolism etc.
Though I have been observing and digging about the whole industry/ mind-control agenda etc. for a while.
Especially the most recent Butter comeback seems really sinister to me, but especially their character change is really apparent.
Like they look so done with each other, and their eyes are literally evil and lifeless.
I wonder how they interact with each other behind the cameras...
Anyway, here is one of my most recent observations, from a recent promo pic on their insta.
It sent shivers down my spine and made me mad.
Notice on this pic of V, not only the watermelon he is holding (also: think watermelon sugar high by Harry Styles), but his pants.
The pattern on it.
(Reminder):
It is infuriating how they flaunt such things and 99.9% of fans etc. do not take notice.
I also noticed some other instances of the spiral pattern occurring in promo pics especially with V.
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What brain education cult? What do you mean? Nothing would surprise me.