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[Strawberrypie]

Are there any other signs? How do we know it was a sacrifice and not just a normal death?

Isn't that because his grandmother was like a parent to him? It effected him more because of that, it was like losing a parent. His life probably changed after that.. n which poster?

The older post have a lot of info. This one was very eye-opening. I knew about moonchildren but everything clicked more.

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[Oceanic]

Actually doing One eye sign is pretty common, so someone doing just one eye won't make them reaching elite or such. I mean everyone does some pose for photos, you are not gonna stand still or keep a straight face during taking photos. But it becomes bizarre and propaganda when they show it in a disgusting manner eg katy perry's witness album cover, eye in mouth, then it looks obvious for something dark. You might have seen one interview where she and the interviewer hesitates to talk about it.

In my eyes, bathtub symbol looks more like seducing "them". And I don't think these "them" are always elites. There are plenty of sugar daddies hungry for new "people". I saw small bathtub in the East Light's mv, where I pointed banana and pineapple which really make sense now as they were literally abused irl (I suspect sexually too, they were too young), that don't look like they were selling themselves to satan or occult, more likely they were trying to reach those sugar daddies. It can be possible the reason behind them being abused is the agency wanted to sell them elsewhere but they refused to do it. Its really common for entertainers selling their bodies for promotion and extra cash. This is why Im skeptical just showing bathtub can't be satanic, perhaps I do believe someone like Lady gaga showing it is a big deal, she literally left a bathtub filled with blood in a hotel room irl. If you have watched her Judas mv, she and 2 other men were in the bathtub and it does look they were onto something. There are many bathtub fetish porns on pornsites if you didn't know (Its not meant to watch). Remember btes showed feline print with bare foot, like foot fetish? In lady gaga-Bad Romance too, she was in a bathtub and the lyrics and concept talking about sex, std etc and she was shown with lots of diamonds as an erotic model.

Sometimes I really wonder is reaching elite that easy? Or are they really that secretive? Im having a feeling its a misconception they are sooo secretive to catch them. There are many holes in bloodline thoeries too. It seems there are many groups or individuals planting seeds of secularism and occultism or dark things exposing to public and anyone wants to reach high in position, money, fame etc, they are simply allowing themselves to be used and followed like this. I find this really strange, someone who used to be a gospel singer till 17 - katy perry, in a short time she started making songs like "I kissed a girl" when she was 23/24 and after sometime became very dark. All this happened when she was already adult.

You have a point about the bathtub, but what else can we explain when they show us blood-filled tubs? You're definitely right, it could also mean many things besides that such as seduction, but if the tub is filled with blood, I don't think I can believe otherwise besides a satanic baptisim or a human sacrifice.

To reach the elite, either you need to do it personally, or you mimic their signs in the hopes that they see it. You know how every A and B list celebrity do those signs? Silent communication that they are all in on the "secret". It's more easier to reach the elite if you're already born into a certain family by the way.

And that's why they're forced to collab together so that they put a more...dangerous spell on us. Like example: I used to be a fan of Ariana Grande, and I noticed when she was new to the industry, she would work with Iggy, Nicki Minaji, Justin Beiber, people like that. They'd help her reach her success by doing things behind closed doors. After she blew up, she began helping other celebrities blow up, such as Weeknd, Demi Lovato, Doja Cat. See how their masters force them to work with one another, show them the ropes, and once all is said and done, it goes back in a circle?

There are many holes in bloodline thoeries too

Personally, I think the bloodline theory makes perfect sense. These extremely high ranking celebs and governerns were likely born from a bloodline of nephilims (back in Biblical times, when demons would procreate with heathen women) and evil IS in charge of the world, so it makes sense to me? Of course not every sellout is from that bloodline, but most are.

someone who used to be a gospel singer till 17 - katy perry, in a short time she started making songs like "I kissed a girl" when she was 23/24 and after sometime became very dark.

There was an interview of Katy Perry explaining how she sold her soul. She said when she was making christian music, she was hungry for popularity- she says (from as best as I can remember) and I quote:

"I wanted to be, like, the Amy Grant of music, and my current business just wasn't working out for me, so I.....I sold my soul to the devil."

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[Oceanic]

Are there any other signs? How do we know it was a sacrifice and not just a normal death?

Isn't that because his grandmother was like a parent to him? It effected him more because of that, it was like losing a parent. His life probably changed after that.. n which poster?

You can easily spot it being a sacrifice because if you want to be so famous that you get a billon views and like, 50 songs out in a small matter of time, you're going to have to follow the steps of the evil ones, because that's exactly how they reached their own success. Behind closed doors, you'll have to sacrifice loved ones and beyond in order to achieve that. That is why Tae was one of the top most popular members of the group for some time. When you make a deal with these evil people, they aren't going to let your loved ones stay alive unless they're evil like them. You have to prove you're willing to go to such vile measures.

You know the, "Bury a friend" song billie eilish made like, two years ago?

The lyric: "Bury the hatchet or bury a friend right now," They're telling her, "Either you kill your own friend, or we kill you."

Next lyric: "The DEBT I OWE, gotta sell my soul 'cause I can't say no."

So if you want to reach up high like that, you owe them your morality, and they give you riches. That's why the more famous celebrities get, the less human they seem. And they're going to abuse their victims the same way they got abused. (The abused one become the abuser) K-pop stars and every other extremely famous person show us sexual abuse symbolism, a couple of months later, they're showing us the same symbolism except it's not them this time, it's their personal victims because of how evil they've become.

That's the sad truth.

 

[Strawberrypie]

I think JK army tattoo actually is referring to V, Rm and Jm. The A is an upside down V with a crown. When he came to Bh, he was really shy. Tae helped him to become more confident. His biggest role model is Rm, and he said he joined Bh because of he was there. His next influence is Jm. It could also be something occultic.


Everyone but Jm looks so uncomfortable and Jk looks mad.

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[Susu.mochi]

You're calling me rude when you're the one who's obviously upset considering your words choices. You're twisting what I say to make it like I don't know the difference between the enemy and God when I do. I'm not about to debate over this, the video I provided explained enough and I guess those people in the comment section of that video are ignorant to you as well, there are countless amounts of testimonies from people leaving the Catholic Church, some of them are probably older than you so please ask them why they agree then come back to me. You keep saying I don't know anything when I asked you to DM me to discuss it. You can continue to believe what you want and I will do the same. I know that satan used scripture to tempt Jesus by the way. Also, Jesus died on the cross but that doesn't mean to make it an idol, in fact when satanists/celebrities wear it, it's out of mockery. People have turned the cross into a graven image as well. What do you even mean by "You don't want this to become a different discussion, but you can't wait to see yourself blaspheme and keep It quiet". I didn't blaspheme God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit once. You continue being a Catholic but I will not "come to you all" ever. "You're saying that just because they use our stuff, we should be a part of it" I didn't say you SHOULD, why would I say you all should be apart of satanism while also saying that the Catholic church is not of God and is of satan? That doesn't make sense whatsoever. I would never want anyone to be apart of anything that glorifies the world /satan especially in secrecy like the catholic church does. I'm not taking back what I said, the truth is the truth. You still have failed to explain why the Catholic Church incorporates paganism (such as sun worship which has ties back to Semeramis / Nimrod, etc) into its practices which is abominable to God, do I need to provide scripture for that too? Referring to Mary as the Queen of Heaven like Jeremiah 44 :17-19 doesn't exist? I will leave at this, you can continue being a Catholic but we will have agree to disagree, plain and simple. Have a blessed day.

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Catholic doctrine contradicts the Bible!!!

1 John 4:1
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but test the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

2 Corinthians 11:14-15
"And no marvel; for Satan himself disguises himself as an angel of light.Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works".

You are correct about the Catholic Church. Don’t let people tell you other wise. It is an occult. There is a I think documentary where a ex nun explains everything that went on in the Catholic Church and how she was deceived.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Bang is out as head of Bh. He's taking over the chairman position. The new CEO of Bh is Park Jiwon. The ones who will be running Hybe America are Scooter and Lenzo.

Bang Si-Hyuk Steps Down as CEO of BTS Powerhouse HYBE; Scooter Braun Takes on U.S. Co-CEO Role

Bang Si-Hyuk is stepping down as CEO of HYBE (formerly Big Hit Entertainment), which launched BTS; Scooter Braun becomes U.S. co-CEO.

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Are btees on the way out? Explains why they haven't gotten as much favoritism lately. #crossposted

 

[Strawberrypie]

I tried posting my 1000+ words post yesterday, however it still hasn’t been checked by a moderator so I will post the screenshots instead... quite disappointing since I worked hard on my first post (worked on it from 9pm till 11pm). Hope you guys enjoy it! Thank you.

The theory of them selling their souls is the most believable. When Suga sets the rooms on fire, it can be a mimicking of hell. Showing how his own actions led him to hell. It explains their meteoric rise. Their manager went from a tiny company to running the kpop world.

 

[ldpshop19]

I tried posting my 1000+ words post yesterday, however it still hasn’t been checked by a moderator so I will post the screenshots instead... quite disappointing since I worked hard on my first post (worked on it from 9pm till 11pm). Hope you guys enjoy it! Thank you.

WOW~ after reading this, I'm feeling so sad for them. This is super interesting. At first I was mad, for being duped into the BT$ world. But after hearing Britney Spears testimony, I'm thinking a lot of these artists are probably trapped, which makes me so sad. I rewatched Fake Love again, after reading what you wrote and it was eye-opening. You see the word SAVE ME at the end. You might be right. That video was almost like a cry for help but their fans are just seeing it as "art." It's a weird this blurred line of mind control that BT$ is going through like they look happy and normal on camera just doing what they got to do, but when reality hits them and no one is watching I think they might be extremely hurt and broken.

 

[Kathyana]

Hey guys I saw the recent vlive of bt$ bcuz I wanted to check out sug@'s behavior(bcuz of the cloning theory). There was definitely something off with JK and the whole group was just oozing with cockiness especially rm, jh0pe and $uga. Apparently, their new song has taken billboard no 1 place for 5 weeks.
Personally, I don't get the huge hype about their new song their older ones were way better.
But its clear that they ain't going anywhere soon

 

[Strawberrypie]

Hey guys I saw the recent vlive of bt$ bcuz I wanted to check out sug@'s behavior(bcuz of the cloning theory). There was definitely something off with JK and the whole group was just oozing with cockiness especially rm, jh0pe and $uga. Apparently, their new song has taken billboard no 1 place for 5 weeks.
Personally, I don't get the huge hype about their new song their older ones were way better.
But its clear that they ain't going anywhere soon

They're expanding and bringing more Hybe to America, Japan and Korea.

 

[queen82]

Bap is shown controlled with wire here, being shot with bullet and dying; showing overuse of pills and drowing in bathtub water, similar to Bts I need you mv. But I don't see them rising in fame nor being sacrificed. How you differentiate signs and concept? What is the main difference in them with symbols for rising fame?

Bap have some problem with their company TS ent , that's why they didn't became huge

 

[platinum]

Their problem was financial. The agency didn't pay them well and violated civil rights. So the boys sued the company

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How can it explain the questions I asked about symbols being similar? That has no relation with their success and real life? They were just hard working idols and weren't paid for 40 months, couldn't see their parents and TS invaded their privacy and stole their personal phone. They have some typical "signs" but that seem to be just aesthetic and concept, nothing more looking at their success then, where is the difference with top group like bts? What kind of behind the scene "work" they do go on top?

Idk for an older gen group they have a really good amount of views...maybe they were overshadowed by other successful groups in their time but I'm not sure.

 

[platinum]

They aren't older gen. 3rd gen - 2010s-current. BAP debuted in 2012, just one year before bts. They are 3rd gen group just like bts.

Guess they just flopped then..

 

[platinum]

Ahhh I see, showing "typical sign" or "save me sign" still flop, but they themselves took break from work and sued the company for justice.

Maybe they could also be involved in cult but still not be famous. Honestly there are so many possibilities but we just don't know enough to make solid statement,, hopefully we can all agree on that.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Something is causing more Armys to wake up. There's also a lot of complaints about Butter.

 

[Kathyana]

Something is causing more Armys to wake up. There's also a lot of complaints about Butter.
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honestly jk seems to be distant from all of them recently. and in their recent live v was completely ignoring jk. and he looked so distant from the group only RM and jin seem to acknowledge him. dunno whats going on. and jm acting cute is annoying to watch

 

[eaisa]

honestly jk seems to be distant from all of them recently. and in their recent live v was completely ignoring jk. and he looked so distant from the group only RM and jin seem to acknowledge him. dunno whats going on. and jm acting cute is annoying to watch

v ignoring jk for once? a rare moment in history. its normally v coming over to bother jk. and of course jin and rm are the only ones that pay attention to him. back then theyd pay special attention to jk since he was still a minor but now hes grown up they suddenly pulled a 360 degrees.

 

[platinum]

Ahh too easy....there's no difference in many signs that certainly don't help to grow in fame. Then, what they do really to go on top?
I haven't seen any seductive food with BAP. One difference found. I haven't seen them lying on pillow, using feline with seduction; no "peaches nd cream" lyrics from them, Some difference found
And honestly, I haven't seen any cult sign from them, only pure concept.

Youre right.. there are many other groups with worse symbolism but they dont get far with fame, but just because they aren't at the top with bts and all doesn't mean they weren't nobodies. Im sure they had their share of fame and with that some disadvantages. And even if it was just a concept there is no reason to support them, they probably would have gotten worse if they had gotten anymore fame.
I dont believe that all idols sell their soul as soon as they debut but there are times when smaller groups just get viral out of nowhere. Or when they suddenly make a hit viral song with a small entertainment company and significantly more or darker symbolism. For me its Red Velvet, with all their blatant witchcraft going on their music videos you would think they would be as famous as Blackpink. Alas, no. But they are still one of the more popular k-ggs in the world.
Or maybe its because of the music... Im sure most people would have preferred bts music over bap, just to simplify things. With better music and visuals it would be easier to brainwash fans.

 

[queen82]

v ignoring jk for once? a rare moment in history. its normally v coming over to bother jk. and of course jin and rm are the only ones that pay attention to him. back then theyd pay special attention to jk since he was still a minor but now hes grown up they suddenly pulled a 360 degrees.

maybe he's tired of doing fan service ..

 

[arhur12]

Ladies code(hate you) and VIXX(voodoo doll) showed more disgusting voodoo dolls, which is a form witchcraft in their mvs, but they are nowhere near popular groups; moreover getting banned for showing violence

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SBS2's Music Bank, MBC's Show! Music Core, and KBS's Inkigayo have all decided to prohibit VIXX from performing their live for their recently released track Voodoo Doll.

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But what fans saying:
"It confuses me why Wheesung's song was banned for the lyrics "Love is delicious" while miss A's new song 'Hush' has a line that says, "You're more delicious than a lollilollilollipop", which hasn't been caught yet; Does the ministry ban songs as they please.. What are the standards?"

"So these guys can't do it but Troublemaker's choreography is okay? "

"Why is it okay for girl groups to shake their butts in revealing clothes and Troublemaker to perform their choreography but not VIXX? What are the standards? "

You see where it leads to, anything is possible if you please and f*** hard $ugar d@ddies. Blackpink has "Icecream" and Red velvet has extremely sensual song, eg icecream cake where lyrics goes like this--

Please give me that sweet taste, ice cream cake
With a flavor that fits this special day
The ice cream that’s on my mouth
Makes your heart pound and you'll come to me
It’s so tasty come and chase me
I can't hold it in
I scream, you scream
Gimme that, gimme that, ice cream

Pops, it's melting in my mouth, putting so much in
That it'll feel like my mouth is melting down

Honestly I don't think it's related to symbolism in their mvs and songs there are plenty of groups who use dark symbolisms in their mvs but they don't make it big at the end of the day it's all about business, marketing and investment. M1ss A are from a big company that's why they didn't face as much backlash as Vixx which are from a smaller company.
Bt5 and black p1nk made it big because they are more marketable towards the west
These are the factors in my opinion which made bt5 big
1- They had a strong social media presence since their rookie days
2- their mvs and songs even though they did not contain heavy symbolisms before bst were about rebellion against society e.g no more dream was a criticism of sk education system. Satan loves Chaos and breaking of social norms in the occult breaking social taboos is considered one of their favourite tasks. That's why you see these campaigns today encouraging people to be "different" do something that "defies cultural norms".
3- They had a sob story and the west loves sob stories plus Hyb3 keeps marketing them as victims who fought against a system that favours the rich and privileged groups in an increasingly liberal western society with high levels of income inequality this message was more appealing to the young people in America
4- They were known as a self produced group another thing that appeals to the west.
5- Hyb3's slogan "Music and artists for healing" was also appealing to western countries as they are obsessed with "meaningful music full of propagandas"
6- All of them are irreligious or atheist and their concepts after bst were based on literature/scientific theories in favor of atheism
7- They are mediocre in terms of actual singing and dancing talent which makes them less of a threat to western artists.
8- They make radio friendly music with easy choreographies and even when they make interesting music it is backed by some liberal pseudo intellectual lyrics about "self love" or "self actualization"


At the end of the day it's more about marketing than occultic symbooisms Red velvet isn't as popular as Black P1nk or Twice because 5m sucks at marketing despite red velvet having more dark symbolisms in their mvs same reason why x-0 didn't blow up