What do you think of the "Chemtrails" conspiracy theory?

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The short, straight answer is very simple:

The high-bypass, turbofan jet engine, used on all commercial jet aircraft, is virtually incapable of producing the "vapor" trails that we see criss-crossing the skies today. The higher the altitude, the lower the relative humidity, making it virtually impossible for a jet engine to exhaust the kind of trails being witnessed today. Chemically-laden trails that did NOT exist 40-50 years ago, and NEVER slowly widened throughout the day.

It's easy for people to forget what the skies looked like decades ago, because most are so spiritually sound asleep that they barely take notice of their immediate surroundings, or the massive changes taking place in our natural environment.

Measurable and verified increases in aluminium, barium and strontium from these geoengineering efforts, aka "chemtrails", clearly indicate they are NOT simple water vapor contrails.


Roughly 45 years ago (1976), six weeks were personally spent recording daily observations of the clouds, as part of a grade school science class assignment. The types of clouds observed were recorded on a daily basis, including their estimated altitude. There were no "cobweb" looking clouds at that time, no sustained trails across the skies that slowly dissipated for hours, and certainly no aircraft exhaust trails that stopped and then restarted, or made 180 degree U-turns, etc.
 
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The short, straight answer is very simple:

The high-bypass, turbofan jet engine, used on all commercial jet aircraft, is virtually incapable of producing the "vapor" trails that we see criss-crossing the skies today. The higher the altitude, the lower the relative humidity, making it virtually impossible for a jet engine to exhaust the kind of trails being witnessed today. Chemically-laden trails that did NOT exist 40-50 years ago, and NEVER slowly widened throughout the day.

It's easy for people to forget what the skies looked like decades ago, because most are so spiritually sound asleep that they barely take notice of their immediate surroundings, or the massive changes taking place in our natural environment.

Measurable and verified increases in aluminium, barium and strontium from these geoengineering efforts, aka "chemtrails", clearly indicate they are NOT simple water vapor contrails.


Roughly 45 years ago (1976), six weeks were personally spent recording daily observations of the clouds, as part of a grade school science class assignment. The types of clouds observed were recorded on a daily basis, including their estimated altitude. There were no "cobweb" looking clouds at that time, no sustained trails across the skies that slowly dissipated for hours, and certainly no aircraft exhaust trails that stopped and then restarted, or made 180 degree U-turns, etc.

I had to sign up just to comment on this topic, You are right, didn't see this stuff years ago. I didn't see this stuff until about 2000. I can say where I am they sprayed a lot from about 2002/3 till 2017. and the weather here was never normal. days of "piss" rain. out of the blue tornado outbreaks, crazy stuff.

Normal weather pattern here Indiana is Nov-Mar its generally cold with rain/snow every 5-7 days. Mar-May warmer rain every 4-6 days sometimes 2 days back to back with rain. Jun-Aug hot pop up thunderstorms. Sept-Nov cooling with periods of rain every 5-7 days and late months sometimes snow.

Biggest thing I remember vivid, 23 Aug 2016. me and a friend sat out and watched them spray. 2 jets high alt grid pattern perfect east to west, then late afternoon they switched to perfect north/south. NORMAL AIR TRAFFIC DON'T FLY LIKE THAT. if you watch normal air traffic all the jets fly in lanes and you can identify the lane to where said plane is going. on the morning of 24 Aug the local weather was to be slight chance of pop up thunderstorm and warm. (aug every day is slight chance of pop up thunderstorm). noon local weather again same thing warm with slight chance of pop up storm. then a couple hours later SHTF. Kokomo/Howard County, Indiana got 4 tornadoes that day. Nobody expected a major tornado outbreak, let alone a Oklahoma type tornado outbreak. Why did it happen? it was the crap they sprayed the day before and I watched them spray it ALL BLOODY DAY!
 

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I had to sign up just to comment on this topic, You are right, didn't see this stuff years ago. I didn't see this stuff until about 2000. I can say where I am they sprayed a lot from about 2002/3 till 2017. and the weather here was never normal. days of "piss" rain. out of the blue tornado outbreaks, crazy stuff.

Normal weather pattern here Indiana is Nov-Mar its generally cold with rain/snow every 5-7 days. Mar-May warmer rain every 4-6 days sometimes 2 days back to back with rain. Jun-Aug hot pop up thunderstorms. Sept-Nov cooling with periods of rain every 5-7 days and late months sometimes snow.

Biggest thing I remember vivid, 23 Aug 2016. me and a friend sat out and watched them spray. 2 jets high alt grid pattern perfect east to west, then late afternoon they switched to perfect north/south. NORMAL AIR TRAFFIC DON'T FLY LIKE THAT. if you watch normal air traffic all the jets fly in lanes and you can identify the lane to where said plane is going. on the morning of 24 Aug the local weather was to be slight chance of pop up thunderstorm and warm. (aug every day is slight chance of pop up thunderstorm). noon local weather again same thing warm with slight chance of pop up storm. then a couple hours later SHTF. Kokomo/Howard County, Indiana got 4 tornadoes that day. Nobody expected a major tornado outbreak, let alone a Oklahoma type tornado outbreak. Why did it happen? it was the crap they sprayed the day before and I watched them spray it ALL BLOODY DAY!
Glad you signed up, and welcome to the forum. Thank-you for sharing those observations.

Some additional personal observations, which leave no doubt that these are chemical trails rather than water-vapor contrails...

1) Trails that stop and start -- this has been observed on numerous occasions. An actual engine stall on a commercial jet aircraft would result in a rapid loss of altitude every single time (i.e. nosedive), and yet amazingly these aircraft maintain their altitude with trails stopping and restarting, sometimes multiple times.

2) U-turns -- yes, trails that make U-turns have been personally observed. When has anyone ever seen a passenger jet leave a visible U-shaped trail?

3) One with a trail and one without -- in commercial jet aircraft flying at what looks to be very similar altitudes and crossing the same position in the sky. One jet leaving a long, slowly dissipating trail, visible for hours, with the other, neighboring jet leaving only a short trail that disappears within seconds.

4) No more true blue skies -- It's difficult to describe to people who never saw what the skies looked like decades ago, or don't remember. Even on a day where there are no clouds in the sky, the color of the sky is not what it used to be. It's only a hazy, grayish blue instead of the vivid, deep sky blue that it used to be.

5) Cloud formations -- in a grade school science class 45 years ago, six weeks was spent recording various cloud formations on a daily basis. Most of the cloud formations today fit none of the categories used to describe clouds decades ago.

6) Plastic spider-webs from the sky -- there are literally long, very fine, sticky strands of some man-made fiber that find their way onto guy wires, cabling and tree limbs, etc. after a day of heavy geo-engineering. These strands are sometimes difficult to see unless the sun hits them from the correct angle, but they're there. One has to wonder if people are breathing these fibers in, as well as what happens to them when they're absorbed into the soil. Perhaps these fibers are what is carrying the increased amounts of aluminum, barium and strontium, etc. that are showing up in soil samples.

The food, water, air and airwaves are being systematically poisoned, and very few take notice. The same goes for the poisons being administered via direct injection, and the poison/lies being fed to everyone through the indoctrination systems (schools) and media (government propaganda mouthpiece).

The first step in cleaning up this toxic environment is to recognize it is toxic, followed by genuinely wanting to change it for the better.
 

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Cloud formations -- in a grade school science class 45 years ago, six weeks was spent recording various cloud formations on a daily basis. Most of the cloud formations today fit none of the categories used to describe clouds decades ago.
But back then Cirrus Homogenitus hadn't been invented. Gotta keep up with the times.

Here is the "official narrative" of the said phenomenon.

 

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I saw chemtrails once.

I was at a festival, and it was hot and sunny, clear sky.

Then two light planes started flying over, quite low, and it left the criss cross lines in the sky.

Then this sort of misty rain came down. It was sort of clingy.

I was jumping up and down, pointing and shouting 'Chem Trails!!!!'

But it may just have been weather, I suppose.
 

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..Biggest thing I remember vivid, 23 Aug 2016. me and a friend sat out and watched them spray..

Hi, can you answer a few questions that i've asked before, as nobody else seems able to..:)
1- Who exactly is doing the chemtrailing?
2- What's their motive and purpose?
3- What effect is it having on the weather?
 

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I took this pic on the 30th September 2019 over the sky while traveling from France to Austria
I think it’s quite clear what this looks like
In plane sight
(no pun intended)
 

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I saw chemtrails once.
Just once? Where abouts in the UK are you?

It's a daily occurance here in the west midlands. As I type this they have just squirted two really low ones right above my house.

I've photoghed them. Not sure about posting personal photos here though just incase it reveals my location to some loon.
 

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Just once? Where abouts in the UK are you?

It's a daily occurance here in the west midlands. As I type this they have just squirted two really low ones right above my house.

I've photoghed them. Not sure about posting personal photos here though just incase it reveals my location to some loon.
Oh, I have been all over.
This was in the south east.

I have seen the grids in the sky before, and planes criss crossing the sky without trails, but never the whole show from beginning to end, right over my head before.

What do you think they are doing it for?
What are they spraying?

Also, without giving location away, I think of the west mids as urban, built up.
Are you seeing them over a built up area? Or more rural?

I hear suggestions of crop spraying etc, but that wouldn't count for an urban area.
 

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Hi, can you answer a few questions that i've asked before, as nobody else seems able to..:)
1- Who exactly is doing the chemtrailing?
2- What's their motive and purpose?
3- What effect is it having on the weather?
1 - Globalist controlled gov likely, as during the Trump Admin it stopped around here.
2- motive? screwing with the weather so when people talk about how fucked up the weather is they can push the BS climate change/global warming scam and get people to buy into the scam cause the average normie is as dumb as a box of rocks.
3. effect, it screws it up and pattern becomes abnormal. days of rain on end isn't normal for the midwest, yet from 2000-2016 we would have days on end of cloudy piss rain, more like portland/seattle then midwest (normal pattern would be 1 maybe 2 days of rain then 4-6 dry days) also temps were higher as it was holding the heat in more. winters without snow or very little snow summers would be central alabama brutal (Indiana summer can be brutal but not Alabama type brutal) spraying stopped in 2017 and once the crap was finally cleared out 2018-> become more normal type. 2019/2020 was the most normal weather years I have seen since the 90s. I fully expect now with globalist pedo biden in the spraying will start up again within the next year.
 

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motive? screwing with the weather so when people talk about how fucked up the weather is they can push the BS climate change/global warming scam and get people to buy into the scam cause the average normie is as dumb as a box of rocks.

Thanks, but is the global warming thing a scam? Are the ice caps melting or not?
 

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What do you think they are doing it for?
What are they spraying
I think Dirtdog gave a pretty good explanation there that I wouldn't contend.

Are you seeing them over a built up area? Or more rural?
Yes, directly above us and in an urban area.

I hear suggestions of crop spraying etc, but that wouldn't count for an urban area.

I think it's more sinister than that. I don't believe barium, strontium and aluminium does too good for crops.
 

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But back then Cirrus Homogenitus hadn't been invented. Gotta keep up with the times.

Here is the "official narrative" of the said phenomenon.

So you think there might be a correlation please between the increased amount of "cirrus homogenitus" clouds being sprayed into the air and the increases in homosexuality witnessed during the same timeframe?

It seems to be affecting the airwaves too, as most television and film programming doesn't miss an opportunity to insert homos into the script.
 

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So you think there might be a correlation please between the increased amount of "cirrus homogenitus" clouds being sprayed into the air and the increases in homosexuality witnessed during the same timeframe
No I don't think they are connected. I think that's got more to do with BPA's leaching from plastics that all.our food is sold in and rising estrogen levels in the drinking water caused by animal waste run off.

As I've stated before cases of gender dysphoria in the UK rose 1500% in between 2012 and 2019. There is a reason for this.

Bear in mind the 1500% were only the ones presenting themselves at a GID clinic. There would be many many more who are fighting this feeling alone.
 

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I think Dirtdog gave a pretty good explanation there that I wouldn't contend.



Yes, directly above us and in an urban area.
That is interesting.

I tend to be in rural areas, and although I see a lot of planes, (civilian and military) some of which have contrails, I don't see many proper grid pattern chem trails. And only once did they seem to be spraying something I could discern.

It seems significant if they are doing over urban areas rather then rural.
There could be a number if innocent explanations for rural, but I can't think of any for urban.
 
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No I don't think they are connected. I think that's got more to do with BPA's leaching from plastics that all.our food is sold in and rising estrogen levels in the drinking water caused by animal waste run off.

As I've stated before cases of gender dysphoria in the UK rose 1500% in between 2012 and 2019. There is a reason for this.

Bear in mind the 1500% were only the ones presenting themselves at a GID clinic. There would be many many more who are fighting this feeling alone.
I don't think the cause is biochemical. The 2010s were the years when pop music and TV series started to become completely gay. Lady Gaga started the androgny/gay revolution in 2008. Netflix's first original series began in 2013. I'm not saying that there was no indocrination before these dates but all-out war started in the 2010s.
 

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That is interesting.

I tend to be in rural areas, and although I see a lot of planes, (civilian and military) some of which have contrails, I don't see many proper grid pattern chem trails. And only once did they seem to be spraying something I could discern.

It seems significant if they are doing over urban areas rather then rural.
There could be a number if innocent explanations for rural, but I can't think of any for urban.
seconding this
rural areas especially with less population don’t seem to feature the heavy amount of spraying like urban areas do
true blue skies can be seen at my grandmothers ranch, while the capital is always inside a haze bubble of smog and chemicals
 

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Thanks, but is the global warming thing a scam? Are the ice caps melting or not?
Yes global warming is a scam. it started in the 60s/70s as "global cooling" they tried to fear monger that humans was going to cause an ice age by 2000. that fell flat then they changed it up in the 80s/90s to "global warming" saying ice caps would melt by 2010 flordia wouldn't exist anymore and so on. which fell flat and failed. now its the "climate change" scam. same ponzi different name
 
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