How And Why Does Israel Have So Much Power?

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Red Sky at Morning said:
I don’t think people are able to grasp concepts that don’t fit their world view very easily @Orwell's mentor.

Let me give you an interior design analogy. A room has a pillar in it that contains four steel girders. It’s not going to move. If you can’t move it, the next best thing is to make it look like your idea.

Long before the Rothschilds were a twinkle in Satan’s eye, Psalm 102 prophesied that the “Lord would build up Zion”, and even the preceding Holocaust the Jews would face. Don’t believe me? Check it out...
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The cognitive dissonance needed to be able to say that Satan did it and IS doing it for God is unfathomable.
Satan did it and is doing it we can agree on. Does Satan serve God? Should we follow Satan’s works in the hopes that they are secretly Godly? Ask any demon and they will tell you yes, this is the case, Satan works for the good. I tend not to believe that, but to each their own.
 
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The cognitive dissonance needed to be able to say that Satan did it and IS doing it for God is unfathomable.
Satan did it and is doing it we can agree on. Does Satan serve God? Should we follow Satan’s works in the hopes that they are secretly Godly? Ask any demon and they will tell you yes, this is the case, Satan works for the good. I tend not to believe that, but to each their own.
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God’s plan and Satan’s work are aptly shown in the initial signs that were given to Moses for pharaoh. In both instances, the magicians of Egypt counterfeited them.
 
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Host Chris Hedges talks to Israeli-American activist and author, Miko Peled, about the persecution of Muslims in America following 9/11, especially when they are supportive of Palestinian rights. Peled’s recent book “Injustice: The Story of the Holy Land Foundation Five,” published by Just World Books.
Miko Peled is an author, writer, speaker, and human rights activist living in the United States. He is considered by many to be one of the clearest voices calling for justice in Palestine, support of the Palestinian call for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) and the creation of a single democracy with equal rights in all of historic Palestine. (Israeli General's son)
Muslim persecution since 9 11 with Miko Peled

 
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DesertRose said:
@Red Sky at Morning can you please hold your religious discussions on the spiritual thread really do not care if you support satan in his plans.
@VigilantCitizen please note this needs to stop at this point it looks like this thread is being trolled because pro-Israel faction has lost the narrative.
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I’ve made a new thread where this discussion can continue
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The satanic state named “Israel”

a brief history. In the 1800s powerful banking families devised a means to have a safe haven from world law, where an ethic solidarity could violate the interests of the rest of the world, and give themselves a basecamp to commit crime with impunity, and lead towards progressive domination of...
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"In total, Israeli air strikes killed 248 Palestinians in Gaza, including 66 children, between 10 and 21 May, and wounded 1,948 others, the Gaza health ministry has reported." Additionally 91,000 have been displaced according to the UN.

"The tension spread to the Gaza Strip, with Israel launching air attacks that killed at least 248 Palestinians, including 66 children and 39 women, and injured more than 1,900 others. Health authorities in the occupied West Bank have separately confirmed 31 killed in that region, bringing the total to 279 across all Palestinian territories."


The aftermath of the 11-day bombing.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1395735441798795269

In Gaza, people clear the streets of debris and rubble.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1396070085450731525
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1396561572034531328
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1396410252724215808
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Israeli forces launch a vast arrest campaign of Palestinians ["Operation Law and Order"] to "settle the score".
"Minors and working class kids from impoverished neighborhoods have been particularly targeted. This is a clear punishment & disciplining tactic. 1400+ have been arrested thus far." 500 to be arrested in the next few days. "They want to humiliate & terrorise to 'discipline' people & make them accept their subordination."


Israel has declared war against Palestinians who dare to resist its colonial project and demand freedom. Today, the Israeli police announced their intent to arrest over 500 Palestinian citizens of Israel over the next 48 hours.

This wave of mass arrests will take place as part of what Israel calls a “law and order” campaign. Thousands of police officers will carry out violent arrests, kicking into doors, brutalizing families and kidnapping our brothers and sisters.

This is not just an attempt to intimidate and discipline those who participated in the Unity Uprising for justice and liberation. This is a declaration of war. It is the settler colonial project’s way of attempting to crush our people’s spirit, resistance and resilience.

Over 1400 have already been arrested since May 9th. At least 200 people will be charged. Israel’s arrest campaigns have primarily targeted minors & working class kids. Do not remain silent. Speak up & make it a priority for your solidarity campaign. Source



Israeli occupation forces brutally assault, beat up and detain a Palestinian young man, in the courtyards of the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound.

Meanwhile, crowds of settlers enter the courtyards of the Al Aqsa compound under heavy escort by Israeli forces.

"Both scenes from today in Masjid Al Aqsa. On one side you have the rightful owners of the land who are brutally arrested and beaten even in their most holiest places of worship. and on the other side you have the criminals who have stolen the land and have no right to any of it, they walk free under the protection of the occupation forces."



Secretary Blinken meets Netanyahu on Monday as part of intensive diplomacy efforts.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is heading to the Middle East on Monday, where he will meet with both Israeli and Palestinian leaders, as the fragile ceasefire between Israel and the Palestinian group Hamas continues to hold.

Tensions remained high on Monday after Israeli police launched an operation of mass arrests of Palestinian citizens of Israel. This came just a day after Israeli police escorted Jewish settlers to enter al-Aqsa Mosque compound.

Blinken will meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Reuven Rivlin and Foreign Minister Gabi Ashkenazi.He will then head to the occupied West Bank and meet with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh."Secretary Blinken is travelling to the region to discuss essential follow-up efforts to consolidate the ceasefire and reduce risks of further conflict over the coming months."

"During his trip, Secretary Blinken will meet with Israeli leaders about our ironclad commitment to Israel’s security. He will continue our administration's efforts to rebuild ties to, and support for, the Palestinian people and leaders, after years of neglect," Biden said in a statement on Monday. [Source]



A large explosion is heard over Gaza, said to be a mock raid, or a sonic boom. It is a tactic to instil fear and terror, in the absence of direct missile bombardment. Israeli warplanes are also circling the skies.

Warplanes heard above Gaza. "What kind of ceasefire is this?"
An insightful comment: "i think..zionist are trying to provoke Hamas to respond..later in respond, zionist can play victim saying that Hamas violated the armistice."



Palestinian men, women and children are routinely tortured in Israeli prison, and undergo many types of abuse. Strip searches, beatings, being cuffed to their own hospital bed, being denied food and water, prison excursions, and more.
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How Israel tortures Palestinians

Human rights group barred from publishing evidence of Israeli torture against Palestinian detainees.
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Upon his arrival at the hospital, Moqbel said he learned from doctors that Mohammad had suffered fractures in his face as a result of being hit with rifle butts. The father said that when he arrived at his son’s room, he was surprised to see there were two Israeli soldiers in their military attire inside the room, carrying weapons.

They removed him by force and forbade him from talking to Mohammad, he added.

"On the first day, they tied Mohammad's hands to the bed with plastic zip tie cuffs. After that, they put metal handcuffs on his hands and feet, and these shackles remained on him for the duration of his time at the hospital," said Moqbel.

"Seeing my child in metal handcuffs while he was sick and weak was a painful and provocative sight for me. I asked the doctors to intervene and remove the handcuffs, but they told me that they could not intervene because this is a security situation in which the army makes the decisions.”
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Bosta journeys are carried out at the hands of an Israeli unit called the Nahshon, whose members are known for their strong physiques, gruffness and apparent desire to humiliate the prisoners in their care. The women must endure sitting on a cold, narrow metal seat for 12 or more hours at a time, resulting in chronic back pain for many.

For prisoners from Damon, the prelude to the bosta journey typically begins at around 8am on the day before court. Women are led out to waiting rooms to be searched - either a routine frisking or a full-body strip search, depending on the mood of the Nahshon. The strip search is the ultimate abuse, an infringement on the sanctity of any human being.

The bosta generally departs at around 9.30am from Damon prison and heads towards a central station where all prisoners from the northern district are gathered. During this time, prisoners might have to wait a further four or five hours inside the bosta, where they sit shackled in tiny, individual metal cages. No concessions or exceptions are made for the sick or wounded

.In addition to the physical distress, this gruelling journey affects women’s mental health, both through the humiliation inflicted upon them by the Nahshon and through racist slurs hurled by Jewish Israeli detainees aboard the bosta.
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No electricity in Gaza. Just 6-8 hours over three days due to damage done to power lines by the drone strikes.

As her 10-year old brother is arrested, a little girl begs the Israeli soldier not to take him away.

Israeli forces shoot dead Palestinian in Jerusalem.

Israeli forces terrorize Gazan fishermen by using them as target practice.

Elderly man relates his experience of losing his life's work in one hour of Israeli bombing. "I walked on the rubble not knowing where to go."



Schoolchildren all over the UK who have been speaking out about Palestine are beng intimidated to remain silent. Many have been threatened with exclusion or isolation, and some even referred to Prevent (a UK gov't body that polices the behaviour of Muslim children and their parents under the guise of "counter-terrorism").

The NYT which has been putting out a lot of Zionist propaganda, reports Israeli forces 'regret bombing of al-Jala tower' (which hosted press AP, al Jazeera press offices [i.e. non-Western, pro-Palestinian media]).

Over the weekend [May 22, 23], some of the biggest pro-Palestinian protests are held in London. Up to 200,000 people are reported to have attended.

1970 interview of Golda Meir, former Israel PM, saying "I am a Palestinian".

Shimon Peres, former Israeli Prime Minister, applied for Palestinian citizenship in 1937. "I swear to be faithful and loyal to the government of Palestine."

Mehdi Hassan: "We give our ally, Israel, more than $3 billion every year. So we are basically are paying for Israelis to bomb Gaza, then paying for Palestinians to rebuild it [through foreign aid]. It makes no sense."
 
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A Freeman said:
Anyone, regardless of whether they call themselves a "Jew" or a "Christian" or a "Muslim", etc., who isn't keeping and enforcing God's Law, is actually criminally aiding and abetting the Zionists continue to oppress, enslave, cripple and murder Palestinians.

That is exactly how God sees this situation, and why He gave us His Law, which defines what is right and wrong in God's Eyes.
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It's very unlikely that that is exactly how God sees this situation because it's preposterous to assume one can know "exactly" how God sees 'this' or any other situation.

Regardless of whether one is a "Jew" or a "Christian" or a "Muslim", none of these groups (or their feminist 'movement' equivalents) advocated for 9-11 truth and so have all been aiding and abetting the Zionist phony War on Terror (which is actually a war on humanity not just Palestinians).

The idea that religious groups (who "all failed" to even get their position on 9-11 truth right), are so wise that they can somehow be entrusted to interpret God's law, or be capable of keeping and enforcing it for the good of humanity, indicates the very close relationship between group-think and abject delusion.
 
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It's very unlikely that that is exactly how God sees this situation because it's preposterous to assume one can know "exactly" how God sees 'this' or any other situation.
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Anyone who dedicates the time and effort to thoroughly study and put into practice The Law that God gave us to protect us from all of this evil and to set and keep us free, asking Him for His Guidance every step of The Way, will find out for themselves that the source of ALL of our problems is our disobedience to God and His Law. God has repeatedly told us this. No assumptions are required.

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Regardless of whether one is a "Jew" or a "Christian" or a "Muslim", none of these groups (or their feminist 'movement' equivalents) advocated for 9-11 truth and so have all been aiding and abetting the Zionist phony War on Terror (which is actually a war on humanity not just Palestinians).
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Agreed. Additional proof that NONE of Satan's organized religions are anything other than deceptions, designed to keep people AWAY from God. If we were united in keeping and enforcing God's Law, there would be no counterfeit-Jewish state of Israel in the Middle East today, terrorizing and murdering its neighbors, nor would they be controlling the rest of the world through the banking system, government lobbying groups, the media, etc.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/them-which-say-they-are-jews-but-are-not.6663/

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The idea that religious groups (who "all failed" to even get their position on 9-11 truth right), are so wise that they can somehow be entrusted to interpret God's law, or be capable of keeping and enforcing it for the good of humanity, indicates the very close relationship between group-think and abject delusion.
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Agreed. NONE of the adherents to any organized religion keep The Law, nor have any love for the truth, or they wouldn't be party to their particular religious superstitions.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/revelation-17-the-great-whore.6778/

https://hannahmichaels.wordpress.com/2019/06/08/christian-zionism-for-dummies/

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friend said:
Looks like Israel is run by psychopaths !!!

This one is the most insane :

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"No one wants peace more than me."

"We want to unite the Arab world."

"The Arab Muslim world can only envy the status of the Palestinians and Israeli Arabs."

"I see you're very feisty today, but I know you're just doing your job."

"Don't get all worked up."

He's crazy. Not to mention a first-class gaslighter.
 
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A Freeman said:
Anyone who dedicates the time and effort to thoroughly study and put into practice The Law that God gave us to protect us from all of this evil and to set and keep us free, asking Him for His Guidance every step of The Way, will find out for themselves that the source of ALL of our problems is our disobedience to God and His Law.

If we were united in keeping and enforcing God's Law, there would be no counterfeit-Jewish state of Israel in the Middle East today, terrorizing and murdering its neighbors, nor would they be controlling the rest of the world through the banking system, government lobbying groups, the media, etc.
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Given that, with respect to 9-11, we failed to unite in agreeing that the laws of physics are not just a conspiracy theory, a failure that lead to the principles of "Thou shalt not kill" and "Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself" being contravened on a wholesale level, and given that our current situation does not afford us the luxury of time, it's very unlikely enough people can dedicate the necessary time and effort to thoroughly study The Law that God gave us so that can be understood and put into practice quickly.

So exposing 9-11 truth would not only be in keeping with God's Law, and is commonly understandable, but it also would help to expand unity as to how God is relevant to all life and people. As time is a luxury we cannot afford, an attempt to resolve the causes of the so-called War on Terror would, relatively speaking, bring focus on the heart of many other problems very quickly because that would highlight the FIAT currency banking system, from where the main aspects of society and culture are influenced or controlled.
 
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Shimon Peres, former Israeli Prime Minister, applied for Palestinian citizenship in 1937
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That's exactly the type of information people should be getting out there. For you clowns who claim to support the Palestinians, you SHOULD know this, but probably don't. The Palestine citizenship law was enacted on August 1st 1925 as per article 7 of the mandate "The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine".
 
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Notice i used quotes because they are not Jews. Real Jews refuse to step into Israel.

I used quotes because these people are mostly Khazars. Largely godless and have nothing to do with Judaism.

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Nah, that doesn't cut it. Ive seen the video in which you were responding to and that video was talking about Jews who lived in Arab lands...not the immigrants from Eastern Europe. I get that this is a highly passionate issue and i get that sometimes passion can easily evolve into anger when people are being killed but comments such as that serve absolutely no purpose to help aid the Palestinian people.

Keep your anger in check or it will spill into pure hatred and then the only people who will listen to you are of the ilk that think 'the syrian government are being patient in not flattening Tel Aviv'
 
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Nah, that doesn't cut it. Ive seen the video in which you were responding to and that video was talking about Jews who lived in Arab lands...not the immigrants from Eastern Europe. I get that this is a highly passionate issue and i get that sometimes passion can easily evolve into anger when people are being killed but comments such as that serve absolutely no purpose to help aid the Palestinian people.

Keep your anger in check or it will spill into pure hatred and then the only people who will listen to you are of the ilk that think 'the syrian government are being patient in not flattening Tel Aviv'
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I don't care what you think. Clearly their are Jews i support like those involved in JVP (Jewish voice for peace) or individuals like Norman Finklestien or David Sheen.

I'd be happy to source these people so you can learn about them but I'm at work.

Point is I'm not anti Jew. I'm anti Zionist but believe what ever you like because it doesn't matter.
 
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I don't care what you think. Clearly their are Jews i support like those involved in JVP (Jewish voice for peace) or individuals like Norman Finklestien or David Sheen.

I'd be happy to source these people so you can learn about them but I'm at work.
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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but clearly i was wrong. It seems like you like certain Jews so long as they square to your pov but the rest are all 'murdering innocents' Btw, i didn't just wake up a couple of weeks ago and decide it would be a fine morning to start supporting the Palestinians so i do not need you to reference a damn thing.

There's a massive amount of historical documents available and you write about khazars..
 
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seekinheart said:
Funny how much people hate Israel, for a conspiracy site, hating Israel is pretty mainstream? Almost like we are supposed to...
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A large amount of people have always hated Israel and you know it. At least back to 2003 when settlers ran over an American activist with a BULLDOZER in broad daylight.

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What was the most popular thread on the last boards Seek?

Remember when you were Muslim for a day? I do.
 
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seekinheart said:
Funny how much people hate Israel, for a conspiracy site, hating Israel is pretty mainstream? Almost like we are supposed to...
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How about the Lavon affair Seek? The USS Liberty? How about the assassination of JFK? Soon as Lindon Johnson got in somehow Israel got their nukes.

The list of atrocities from our "greatest ally" can fill books.

No! its not like people are "supposed to hate Israel". People hate Is-ra-hell because they're in-human.

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The Jews were oppressed, I imagine thousands of years of oppressions would mess up peoples mentality. Bit like the IRA really.
 
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No excuses for the ill treatment of others.:mad:
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