How And Why Does Israel Have So Much Power?

[DesertRose]

Jewish Google employees urge CEO to condemn Israel’s attacks

 

[Stucky]

Gee, i wonder why so many counties have kicked "jews" out. Where are the Jews indeed @Red?

Like i told you. They are busy slaughtering the innocent.

Lumping all Jews as 'slaughterers of the innocent' is a very nasty thing to say/do.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Lumping all Jews as 'slaughterers of the innocent' is a very nasty thing to say/do.

I enjoy history, particularly if you can get information from primary sources.

Watching an interesting one on the history of WW2, one SS infantryman discussed his feelings years later on shooting Jews. He said he just wanted to shoot straight and do a proper job. The interview asked him if he felt anything else.

“Nothing”

He said said that when he was younger, some Jews had cheated his community and he would never forgive them. The interviewer asked “in the name of God what had those women and children to do with the Jews you knew?”.

“They were still Jews”

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

@Red Sky at Morning how about posting that on one of the threads in the spiritual forum and then tag Agrarian?

Me too darn these folks!

That helps explain a great deal. Thanks @DesertRose

 

[Daze]

Lumping all Jews as 'slaughterers of the innocent' is a very nasty thing to say/do.

Notice i used quotes because they are not Jews. Real Jews refuse to step into Israel.

I used quotes because these people are mostly Khazars. Largely godless and have nothing to do with Judaism.

Revelations 3 9 was it?

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Notice i used quotes because they are not Jews. Real Jews refuse to step into Israel.

I used quotes because these people are mostly Khazars. Largely godless and have nothing to do with Judaism.

Revelations 3 9 was it?

I think that was the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?

A Hoax of Hate: The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

www.adl.org

^ A document with a fascinating history btw

 

[Daze]

I think that was the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?

A Hoax of Hate: The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

www.adl.org

^ A document with a fascinating history btw

ADL, a very interesting source. Do you know how the ADL were founded?

On Memorial Day in 1913, a 29 year old Jew raised in Brooklyn, NY named Leo Frank raped and killed a 13 year old child, One Mary Phagan .

It went to court. A jury of his peers found him guilty and sentenced him to death in August of 1913. However the governor stepped in and gave him a life in prison sentence. The public, refusing to accept this hung him.



The ADL formed to protect the rapist and murdering p***phile.

What a linage to live up to. To this day the ADL is on the wrong side of the fence protecting the slaughter of innocent woman and children.

After all, the synagogue of satan can do no wrong.

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." (Rev 2:9) ... interesting how the Bible calls them rich, while they literally get billions from the US tax cattle annually.

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. (Rev 3:9)

 

[DesertRose]

That helps explain a great deal. Thanks @DesertRose

What exactly is that remark, Red?
Definitely, I am critical of the actions of the the Israeli state, army, and the citizens who support that state terrorism.
Are you surprised at my disbelief about them not abiding by the ceasefire since you conveniently did not post the full comment.
You support a land that is full of racists, debauchees and murderers ? ( May the Creator not make us of those who have been led astray. Ameen)
You support immorality and injustice just because it fits some end times belief system of yours.
Your sect are slaves to satanic Zionists and do not support the more religious Jewish groups that are against what is going on.
Unfortunately, all our faiths have their sell outs.
People who support this criminal state and make excuses for it.
People who do not want to do the necessary work to uproot evil.
Yup, your stances on here explain much as well.
I still have hope you will one day see the truth and follow it. I will pray for you.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

You support immorality and injustice just because it fits some end times belief system of yours.

@DesertRose

I had always been under the impression that Muslims accepted the OT as authentic. There have been many prophecies describing the regathering of Israel and a literal return to their old homeland. The pattern of their return and even their spiritual condition has been written. There is no point having a merely political discussion on this topic, excluding the wider context, as conclusions drawn by doing so are likely to be faulty.

Political Zionist Jews ignore the less flattering and outright scathing words the Lord reveals about these stiff-necked people. Some Orthodox Rabbis also twist the scriptures about the Messiah and the coming Kingdom to fit into some Zionist super-state.

That being said, if I told @pescatarian09 that your favourite colour was orange, that would have no bearing on your colour preferences.

In the same way, the opinions of Israel loving Hebrew Roots Christians, anti-Israel groups or Christ- denying religious Zionist Jews will have any bearing on what God will do.

 

[Tidal]

..the Quran actually says to show you respect.
"And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them." (29:46 Quran)

The Bible says the same thing, Christians should try to help nonchristians and atheists see the error of their ways..-
"The Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.
Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will." (2 Timothy 2:24)

 

[DesertRose]

I had always been under the impression that Muslims accepted the OT as authentic.

You are kidding right? What we have today is the rabbi's book not the original Torah from the Creator.

There have been many prophecies describing the regathering of Israel and a literal return to their old homeland.

Even if they do that we do not watch this injustice in a fatalistic fashion nor promote it in a satanic fashion. The ends do not justify the means. Ask yourself what would Jesus (peace be upon him) do and act accordingly.

There is no point having a merely political discussion on this topic, excluding the wider context, as conclusions drawn by doing so are likely to be faulty.

Observing the sequence of events does not mean that you should partake in injustice or absolve oppression or tyranny.
Remember the question if Jesus (or any of God's prophets for that matter)was on earth what would he do? Confront or accept or actively support these immoral actors.

 

[lightseeker]

Hi @Agrarian

I think too few people read the passages they quote in their wider context and so come to faulty conclusions...

Take this one (with a little annotation)

Jeremiah 16

14 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that it shall no more be said, The Lordliveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

15 But, The Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.

16 Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the Lord, and they shall fish them;

[sounds like National Israel inviting Jews to return]

and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.

[sounds like persecution will one day drive them from other nations]

17 For mine eyes are upon all their ways: they are not hid from my face, neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes.

[it doesn’t sound like God is entirely pleased with them in their “returned” state]

18 And first I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double; because they have defiled my land, they have filled mine inheritance with the carcases of their detestable and abominable things.

[God is definitely not pleased! Does this refer to the time known as “Jacob’s Trouble”?

19 O Lord, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction,

[looks like there is going to be some repentance involved]

the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

[it sounds like there will be a point after this judgement where the non-Jews will also look at the beliefs they have inherited and have a change of heart]

20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods?

21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The Lord.

You are projecting meaning onto that post hoc. Thinking that Judaism is just one big IOU from God to give them a patch of dirt is a fabrication, a lie from the 19C to serve the interests of banking families.

Show me where Jesus, the only reliable expert on the Hebraic teachings who taught them what their prophecies meant in their temples starting at the age of 12, said ANYTHING about leading some race of people to magic dirt being important. It is not a religious idea, it’s just a trick that was fabricated.

Even in his time the rabbis didn’t understand their religion or practice it correctly so Jesus gave it to them in its essential form, and they rejected it in order to cling to their lies. Thinking that God wants a totalitarian state for people to sin with impunity and act with monsterous cruelty is blindness red. It’s not religion.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

A prime example of Israel's stronghold on Gaza. An excerpt:

"Despite the support from people around the world, Aslem remains cautious about the future of his bookshop, which was his only source of income.​

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“The problem is getting the funds to Gaza, due to the blockade. Even if all the funds are raised, the Israeli blockade on Gaza means that it’s difficult for money to get through to us. I’m not too optimistic about it,” he said."​

Israel-Gaza: Huge fundraising effort seeks to get bombed bookshop rebuilt
Shaaban Aslem's Iqraa al-Jadeed store was turned into rubble by Israeli jets. Now, over $130,000 has been raised to revive it

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-bookshop-demolished-fundraising-effort-back-feet

 

[The Agrarian]

ADL, a very interesting source. Do you know how the ADL were founded?

On Memorial Day in 1913, a 29 year old Jew raised in Brooklyn, NY named Leo Frank raped and killed a 13 year old child, One Mary Phagan .

It went to court. A jury of his peers found him guilty and sentenced him to death in August of 1913. However the governor stepped in and gave him a life in prison sentence. The public, refusing to accept this hung him.

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The ADL formed to protect the rapist and murdering p***phile.

What a linage to live up to. To this day the ADL is on the wrong side of the fence protecting the slaughter of innocent woman and children.

After all, the synagogue of satan can do no wrong.

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." (Rev 2:9) ... interesting how the Bible calls them rich, while they literally get billions from the US tax cattle annually.

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. (Rev 3:9)

I love how the Muslim has a more appropriate understanding of New Testament doctrine regarding Judaism than most people on this thread.

And seriously, citing the ADL as a source is a travesty.

 

[The Agrarian]

I'll end with this, and I say this as a loving warning:

If you view the Old Testament term "Israel" as a covenant people (now under the New Testament) instead of contemporary ethnic Jews than the Old Testament prophesies harmomize with the allegorical teachings of the New Testament. To claim there is another covenant other than the perfect blood of the Lord Jesus Christ is to deny the power of the cross. Dispensationalism is a historical anomaly to thousands of years of Christian teaching.

Stop siding with a heresy-fueled military dictatorship (which the State of Israel really is).

 

[DesertRose]

Einstein’s Letter about Deir Yassin Massacre

If Americans Knew is dedicated to providing Americans with everything they need to know about Israel and Palestine.

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[DesertRose]

Norm Finkelstein Destroys Pro-Israel Talking Points

Dr Norman Finkelstein on the 2021 Gaza escalation and Israeli ‘Apartheid’

 

[The Agrarian]

Notice i used quotes because they are not Jews. Real Jews refuse to step into Israel.

I used quotes because these people are mostly Khazars. Largely godless and have nothing to do with Judaism.

Revelations 3 9 was it?

Funny how all those dark-skinned, Middle-Eastern Hebrew, totally-pure-Semites from the desert ended up on the Russian frontier of Khazaria's empire.

Historically speaking, for Jews in the Roman Empire to end up in Eastern Europe, they would have to migrate east in the direction of the Germano-Hunnic advance. The probability of millions surviving and settling the lowlands of Poland and Belarus between 70-450 A.D is practically zero.

tl;dr... Zionist myths btfo by sixth-grade geography.

 

[recure]

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." (Rev 2:9) ... interesting how the Bible calls them rich, while they literally get billions from the US tax cattle annually.

It is not calling the Jews rich, the verse is addressed to the Angel of the Church in Smyrna, saying 'I know you are poor' in the literal sense, and qualifies it by saying 'but you are rich' in the spiritual sense. The opposite analogy is found in v. 3:17 which is addressed to the Angel of the Church of Laodicea: "thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked."

 

[DesertRose]

The US Isn't An Israel Puppet, Israel Isn't A US Puppet: It's One Empire

The US Isn't An Israel Puppet, Israel Isn't A US Puppet: It's One Empire

Listen to this article:

caitlinjohnstone.substack.com

Excerpts:
'The US is not a puppet of Israel, and Israel isn't a puppet of the US. Saying one puppets the other is like saying Ohio puppets Nevada; they're both member states of the same undeclared empire ruled by uncrowned kings who use governments as weapons to kill and steal.
The lines between nations within the US-centralized empire are no more real than the official elected governments of those nations. It's just a single unified power structure which uses whatever narratives it requires to justify its continued campaign to rule the entire planet.\

"There is no real "Israel" or "America", there's just the one empire. Lobbying, financial support, propaganda etc are just some of the glue that's required to hold together an empire that doesn't officially exist. The empire will use any ideology to advance imperial interests, whether it be Zionism, Christian fundamentalism, white supremacism, Islamic extremism, or woke progressivism. It's all just narratives to move the empire along, because that's what's required in an unacknowledged, unofficial empire."
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