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What are the christians on the forums thoughts on this doctrine?
Well thats interesting, Im abit on the fence but lean to wards eternal security.Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
"All these sufferings are man-made and it is within man's power to put an end to them. God helps by facing man with the results of his actions and demanding that the balance should be restored. (As you sow, so shall you reap.) Karma is the law that works for righteousness; it is the healing hand of God." -- NisargadattaWell thats interesting, Im abit on the fence but lean to wards eternal security.
I mean working out your own salvation, I dunno. Maybe we are all judged differently on our circumstances, who knows.
You know that's from Philippians right? here is the best part of that: for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his purpose.”Well thats interesting, Im abit on the fence but lean to wards eternal security.
I mean working out your own salvation, I dunno. Maybe we are all judged differently on our circumstances, who knows.
Thats funny. I knew before i even opened this thread it would say "discuss" or 'your thoughts".What are the christians on the forums thoughts on this doctrine?
Exactly.You know that's from Philippians right? here is the best part of that: for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his purpose.”
"Just as when you are half awake and can see a dream, and know you are dreaming, and yet are apart from it, that is how God feels this universe. On one side he is awake, and on another side he is dreaming this universe. And that is how you should look upon this world. Then you will know why he created it, and will not ascribe these dream conditions to your soul. If you pass through a nightmare, you know that is no more than a bad dream. If you can live in the world in that consciousness, you will not suffer.Exactly.
Everyone seems to forget that part.
for it is God who works in youto will and to do of His good pleasure. PHILIPPIANS 2:13
“Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; and have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;”There is this so-called eternal security for the Elect. But who is/are exactly the Elect? These are the people predestined by God to be saved from the beginning, these are the people who believe in God and in Jesus Christ as their Lord and saviour until the end of their life on earth. But the thing is, no man ever know who these predestined people are, we can only assume based on what we saw from outside that some people died as a believer until their death but we do not know what is in their heart and mind, only God knows. You and I may believe today that we are saved as we believe in God and in Jesus Christ (today), but the question is do we persevere and remain the same until the end? Only God knows! If despite with all the temptations and guiles of the world and satan today and we still persevere as a believer until death, then we are part of the Elect and are saved eternally.
According to Christ (the Truth -- John 14:6), no one has ever gone to heaven.What are the christians on the forums thoughts on this doctrine?
I agree. The Elect of God are new men...born again in soul and spirit.“Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; and have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;”
Colossians 3:9-12 KJV
Based on these verses, I think the Elect of God are the New Man (born again believer) with God living inside them. What do you think?