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yeah, the other group hold each others' hands and stuff and they were so nervous. i cant differentiate it between them thinking "im not gonna win, whatever happens happened" or "we been knew cuz our fandom is bigger than the other groups but lets act shocked"
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So we should understand from it that evil is an artistic concept? I hope I am wrong
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they're making it a concept as being artistic, someone pointed out the make-up Cb had was like snakeskin and how white snakes have blue and greyish eyes
Each time (last time being 2 or 3 days ago) there's a new racist thing that this grp has done that resurfaces-I saw 3 of them now- , that were little to not talked about since h*n's one and none of them blew up like the racist lyrics and w**jin's accusations and this while the lyrics can easily be considered fake as well as the se*ual allegations while those "recently discovered" things were done on camera and are still available on ytb.
Like only a few people are talking about them on twitter and that's it.
That makes me think that the "big" scandals were directed and not coincidentally discovered.
-not a detective I might be wrong
Let's not forget that this ignorance is pretty sad
Like only a few people are talking about them on twitter and that's it.
That makes me think that the "big" scandals were directed and not coincidentally discovered.
-not a detective I might be wrong
Let's not forget that this ignorance is pretty sad
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the wj one got pretty big and almost everyone dragged him not fully knowing the facts. With Hn's situation, he offended so many groups of people and stays forgave him after he apologized contrasted with wj being innocent later. if this was wj we will still be hearing it today. It was hard to come up with excuses for hn's situation but I saw some saying he was 13yrs old which was young and he has changed now and I do hope he has changed.
It was interesting to me cuz some stays knew this and kept quiet about it while most stays had no idea. This is why when I joined the fandom I was surprised to learn all the scandals the group engaged in as stays would try to clear everything up for the boys. Hn's scandal wouldn't have come out if someone in the past knew the lyrics he wrote and didn't uploaded a video of something that shouldn't be there now
it's also obviously weird how the agency temporarily kicked one member out of the group for something like bickering with his classmates (unless I'm wrong) and the other not
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you mean hj?
Stays have framed the issue so it appears as him "not closing the door" or middle school arguments/fights. At least 5 different victims accused him of bullying...that's how big it was. I don't know the full truth but there's a reason why jay why p was so vague with their response and hj couldn't deny the accusations.
He apologized for his harmful "words and actions" and no one knows what that means apart from him himself and those that experienced that from him. We'll never know the full story however it'll be nice to have future statements, if he's innocent the company should do their job properly and if he's guilty he should be held responsible and change from that
yes I mean him.
haaaa I didn't know that, if it's really true then I feel ashamed for thinking it was only bickering.
How can one even know? That teacher that gave a testimony said something along teenagers arguing like all of them were at fault I think?
It was really weird how the company threw him under the bus, a truck
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News later came in on how the school couldn't verify the credibility and identity of the teacher that gave testimony. Even if the teacher was real it really backfired the situation and showed how negligent they were. (Imagine being the victim and a teacher comes up saying that's how the situation was like and they did nothing to help...I feel for these victims
complicated indeed
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aghhhh I feel like a loser but I'll step on this. Anyways, today BC said on vlive that stays can do whatever they want and that when they become one they become unstoppable and there is no limits and make miracles happen smthg like that (good timing ngl).
Now tell me if this isn't them being manipulated like puppets... I don't even wanna blame him atp
src:twt as u can see
Now tell me if this isn't them being manipulated like puppets... I don't even wanna blame him atp
src:twt as u can see
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heyy don't feel like that, is this a speech for kingdom xD. Anyways I agree with BC, when stays come together and stream like crazy and vote for them in everything ofc 'miracles' can happen. They really need stays cuz that's their income but they don't really care about them like that and twt makes me cringe at times but at least I get updated
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thanks hhhh
I don't know what he said right before that but we still can't consider it out of context, it's still the same words.
Btw I threw that post without explanation p: So obvs I found what he said weird bc it enhances the idea that being a part of a fandom, "stanning" such and such celebrity is a "solid" (I didn't find the right word) identity that you have to act upon. It's like a cult.
Also it makes kpop, the music industry, winning such and such prize look wayyyyy deeper than it is and a "bigger responsability" than it is. But it is neither deep nor a serious thing that should affect us to the point of sadness, shedding tears or even lack of sleep and wasting time.
Chan,of course, didn't invent all of these ideas, they were present but even if only one singer (that they call idol) "motivates" his/her fans once, it is going to be deeper than it already is.
correct me if I'm wrong, I don't wanna spread what is wrong
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yeah that's true they're supposed to do that as their job so if it flows naturally out of their own will that's even better
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a smart marketing strategy to make the fans feel special and in need to protect and give them all they want like awards and such, i remember bc admitted that he is hungry for success, nothing is wrong with that ofc, ambition is cool, but brainwashing and suggestively put their young fans' brains into thinking theyre special and that theyre the only hope for them is not, its not like they will be a bad or flop group if they lose or dont get any awards after all, idk why winning this kngdom is so important to them, even fl message on bbl sounded desperate how he wants st4ys to stream, they have a life, if they do CARE and LOVE their fans, they would know that and wouldnt give hints and signs as to why they should vote or stream 24/7 because they "could achieve everything if they come together" he said it with no context but WE KNEW what he is on about, he isnt talking about how individually, st4ys are capable of anything because theyre talented (as an individual), he said it "if they all come together" so ofc its about making 5kz win every award by streaming and voting because it is needed for groups of ppl who come to work together to achieve that. st4ys are now getting the nickname "stream monsters" or smthng because they stream like crazy for kngdom, im not surprised if 5kz win the whole thing.