Entertainment x BTS x Politics x EXPOSED

first member to leave BTS (not military or health related)

  • Taehyung

  • Yoongi

  • Jin

  • Hoseok

  • Jimin

  • Namjoon

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azure sirius

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You are welcome.

I haven't read the book, only some quotes from it because someone sent me the link.
Exploitation in all forms has always existed and my experience with the industry has been enough, without rituals or mind controlling tools.
It's an automatism that works in a way in which, it's either their way, or nothing.
Which is why people in the industry are called puppets. not all of them, but clearly some, it's easy to spot them.
Stupid ones on top of being a puppet, because it's not like they are sacrificing their life for a greater purpose. No. They just want fame. All of them. Better said - they want fame without the product.
As far as sexual abuse goes, there is also a different side to the story - almost all women and young girls I've met are offering and inviting to sex, it's not about being abused anymore, it's about a normality and those girls are even fighting over it.
It is another part which angered me, given child and women trafficking, abuse, killings. Girls kidnapped and forced into sexual slavery, like some posts I've made over Oprah's, Clinton, Soros and Obama's friends.
Those are innocent children and women.
On the other hand you have females jumping at sleeping around to be more famous, more likes, more promoted, etc.
They are the first hand round of Guilt. Not the abusers.

The story has several aspects and I personally cannot name one famous singer or actor which seems to have been a product of MK or sexual slave.

I am pointing out to a post below, regarding CIA/Geffen, etc creating the famous 70s acts and the industry as it is. Around the same time the gays took over Hollywood (also through Geffen/Katzenber/Spielberg)


The famous ones were also chosen, not forced into it, despite them singing "anti-government" songs to appeal to the youth.
Only recent, as far as one or two months ago, discussions have started over famous bands in Germany being used during Corona, with a long-standing career, all people with ties to the government , people which for decades have received funds and promotion in the media.

One thing not to ignore - behind famous singers or actors hides an army of people working for Them (as in all of them).

In my experience the people in charge are so powerful playing with people like me and others who don't get a chance, that they don't need any extreme torture in order to get things done in the entertainment world.
They'll offer and satisfy all your personal perversions, feed your addictions, in return they'll give you everything you've dreamed of.

Someone with a dramatic story was Shostakovich, commissioned by Stalin to write music. Shostakovich has lived a hell of a life while being on of those who were actually forced to write music. Not by sexual abuse or MK, just by having to obey to orders. And I am talking about one of the greatest composers in history.

People like BTS, or Lady Gaga, Beyonce, etc...they have nothing to offer. Grew up in a system where they all used drugs, slept around and did nothing, but obsessing over fame fame fame. There is no need for MK in such a situation. It's like dying to eat an ice cream and at the same time someone forcing you into eating it.

I don't think BTS members have been sexually abused, or slept around for...I don't even know what in return. This is just my feeling.
I made it half as a joke, but the way Jin and Jimin are acting around Jungkook and Taehyung, classifies as an abuse. I'd start looking there as far as abuse goes.

I believe Jungkook and Taehyung have been treated more brutal by staff - I've seen the Jungkook video where the staffer/"manager" raises his hand and he flinches, as well as when a staffer/'manager' kind of hits or shakes Taehyung more violently for not paying attention I suppose.

The biggest abuse of those two is coming from their parents for not protecting them.
If my child would have been treated this way by a stranger who already milks him for everything, I don't know if I would still be out of prison today..
At the same time it's not an excuse for them to not stand up and leave. It's because they enjoyed their "hard" life where they play and fool around all day. All they have to do is to sit for hours into makeup and film themselves all the time.

If you ever watched an "America's got talent" - like show, you see hundreds of thousands of young people who are there because they want to become famous and are fighting each other over it.
Their desperation for fame and not quality of their work/life is what leads. All of them (as in other singers/actors).
Not a scenario where they are forced or controlled by some experiments.
It makes sense, I can't even think that deep...tbh I also felt they are and their parents too are greedy enough to support this sort of life just for money and fame. Otherwise which parents would allow to send their kids to a foreign country with some strangers?

They also had the chance to break free the contract but they renewed again for 7 years, what other reason people need to understand they have authority over how they want to live or not? It screams itself they are there by their own greed, not any mind control.

Yes I also think they weren't sexually abused the way some theories represent, just slept around. Also some people claims hair color changing has something to do with mind control. They even changed their hair color twice or thrice a week. If mk ultra was involved, then where they are getting time to be tortured and then cover that and then fast fast dye hair and shoot and do other work? It totally doesn't make any sense to me.

Tbh other realistic reasons are much more transparent than that book, we don't even know how much legit that is. Thank you so much again for taking your time to remove my confusion. I will try to keep up with your thread.
 

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It makes sense, I can't even think that deep...tbh I also felt they are and their parents too are greedy enough to support this sort of life just for money and fame. Otherwise which parents would allow to send their kids to a foreign country with some strangers?

They also had the chance to break free the contract but they renewed again for 7 years, what other reason people need to understand they have authority over how they want to live or not? It screams itself they are there by their own greed, not any mind control.

Yes I also think they weren't sexually abused the way some theories represent, just slept around. Also some people claims hair color changing has something to do with mind control. They even changed their hair color twice or thrice a week. If mk ultra was involved, then where they are getting time to be tortured and then cover that and then fast fast dye hair and shoot and do other work? It totally doesn't make any sense to me.

Tbh other realistic reasons are much more transparent than that book, we don't even know how much legit that is. Thank you so much again for taking your time to remove my confusion. I will try to keep up with your thread.
a parent that would sell his kid do that
 

azure sirius

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The symbols which appear in most of the music videos,are freemasonry-symbols, not related to the former CIA-project MK Ultra.
Freemasons/Illuminati must show, promote, display their symbols everywhere as sign of their loyalty.
You find them equally in ballet, Opera, musicals, theatre, operetta, skating, books, paintings. Etc.

I don’t know what a “programmed victim” is, I assume someone who has been a victim of the cia’s mk ultra. Then again, it’s two different things.

Regarding their songs - they don’t write their songs. Neither BTS nor blackpink nor Selena nor Beyoncé, etc.
If one sees lyrics in a song that gives somehow of a green pass to take words out of it and interpret it as God knows what, one must consider the brainwashing used towards the fans or people listening. Which leads to the same issue. Media influencing our brains.
If Yoongi or Billie Eilish talk about depression, sufferance, abyss, death, sacrifice, blood, etc...
firstly it’s about romanticizing drugs and depression in order to make people dependent on drugs and kill themselves/depopulation.

Second, look at them how their fame is based on the constantly victimizing which goes hand in hand with this destructive culture we’re living it, the victimhood culture/cancel culture/cancelation of freedom of speech. Billions are poured into that. Their lyrics and videos of constant hurting are just part of the agenda. Not satanic or symbolistic.
A political agenda with lots of money involved meant to erase any truth, history, medicine, common sense, etc.
just playing the victim, say you’re depressed, you’ll be getting attention and front page in any magazine while the one who said gender dysphoria is a mental disease has to pay a fine, goes to jail or looses his/her job.

It’s not about mk ultra or Illuminati which again are two separate things.

Those people are being used through the lyrics or video of their songs to make teenagers and the new generation a bunch of losers, either drugs/pills/alcohol addicted, prostitues, aggressive, unstable, etc.

How often aren’t their fans getting attention on social media because they start wanting to identify with the stupid lyrics talking about being “trapped” or a victim, lost, wanting to kill themselves, talking about darkness, mean people around them...it’s all the same.

I haven’t seen so far anything
that “ties back to mk ultra” in terms of symbols. Just a bunch of Masonic symbols to fill out the screen.
Which is literally what they do. Even when it doesn’t fit at all.
They see empty screen or stage, they’re gonna put like idiots all their symbols without making sense.
Not even within their own parameters.

I know of two things that people on forums, not just here, are eager to hold on to and say - hey, that’s programming.
Hair dying and “glitches”.

Hair dying / cutting is firstly a thing done to constantly look different in pictures. Unless you have a certain image to hold on to, like Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani, Marilyn Monroe with their blonde hair image, Marilyn Manson with black hair, Kurt Cubain - blonde, nick from BSB - blonde, etc.

then, in men - lots of gay people are dying their hair making them look more effeminate. Drug users, or “punks” are dying their hair on different colors, even homeless people. It’s some sort of a life style
It’s quite dangerous since it can lead to adrenal fatigue and all the chemicals being absorbed into skin, especially if it is done quite often.
In order to achieve those bright light colors, you need to completely dye the hair at the extreme, which only works if you let the bleach on your hair for at least 30-45 min.
I used to dye my hair in white - the same process no matter the color- and I couldn’t do it at some point, due to the nausea from the bleach.

Kpop is a cult obsessed with physical appearance. In order to promote homosexuality and make boys/men look like girls, naturally, hair dye is one “must”.
It’s still not a symbol of MK ultra.

The glitches in videos - it’s a common effect used so often in movies or videos to make things look cool. It’s just an effect.
The “glitches” in people’s eye - take Cardi b, Rihanna, Beyoncé, lady Gaga. Those people are stoned as fuck, hooked up on drugs, pills or alcohol.
I don’t know how many of you have dealt daily with addicts, but I had to and it’s hard to handle or communicate with those people because they’re out in the space. Their brain is frozen, they can’t concentrate on anything, look far away. Etc.
it’s not glitches, it’s just addiction to something that freezes your brain.

In the case of the kpop bands I’ve seen or American/English music - those people (boys/men/girls), are very unintelligent. There is little brain activity going on. They can’t think so they look as if they’re lost, but is simply lack of brain activity.

Those were the only “mk ultra symbols” I’ve seen people talking about. Although there is no relation between those two and a sign for mk ultra project.

Not to forget - when is everyone supposed to constantly take 6 months off to become the subject of a CIA mind project which, if still existent, is somewhere secretly located.
When are they supposed to do that, since they’re always doing either interviews or photo shootings.

I don’t think there’s any hint of projects or torture or anything else. Just people who want to see it like this.

It would be more productive to show to the world how labels and entertainment are using bad parenting in their advantage to seduce them into becoming addicts or suicidle.
I wouldn’t let my children be so dumb listening to some lunatic like Billie eilish talking about killing herself on a song written by someone else while having a very weird relation with her brother whose girlfriend looks exactly like his sister.

Take a look a Russia. You don’t see that much of this agenda happening.
It’s all about money. They found other ways to use their youth and young people in more productive ways than being gay or pill addicted.

If you want, give me an example of a song or a video where you believe this to be a secret message or a symbol of a singer or a band member who has been a victim of CIA’s mk ultra and I can try giving you an input from an other perspective.
It answers a lot of my questions! I need to read through your thread. Thanks for quoting.
 

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another one who wanted fame and died as a result of drug abuse and overdose

sorry but he trying to expose illuminati and they put him in jail and then they killed him, there's also an interview of him in jail a couple of years ago ..
 

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This might be true, but DMX was a notorious drug addict who made millions from rapping.
He was arrested because he broke the law, not because he was innocent or because the Freemasons were bothered by his rumbling.
He had a history of drug abuse.
Drugs do kill.
Maybe he died from vaccine , or Covid, or maybe someone killed him. Either way this guy couldn't manage his drug abuse, I am not surprised that he died, you cannot survive on drugs.

When Breitbart, who had a lot of things on a lot of people ON PAPER, died at 43, fully healthy, from a heart attack, without pre-existent conditions and when his coroner also died in the same suspicious surroundings, things cooled off pretty quickly, though it was obvious that something was not right and the timing, before he announced that he's about to release some documents, couldn't be more obvious.
Freemasons don't need to kill people like DMX, who, like anyone else, didn't had any proof. Because that's why they always win, it's difficult to get proof and even if one would, people wouldn't care that much.
DMX has had a troubled childhood, was beaten by his mother, was very often in jail for all sorts of crimes - from animal cruelty to drug possessions, falsifying ID.'s and many other things.
His list of crimes is so long it is not worthy to list everything.
People, if they know something, should expose and talk about it. NOT signing with Def Jam, make millions and when the career is shaking then do some interviews. While wearing several gold and diamond chains and rings.
Same goes for Kanye West, who I consider to be the best producer in America. But he was aware about what kind of lying cunts Beyonce and Jay Z were, yet, when it suited him, he was all in owe.
Did he ever publicly talked about how Jay Z can't rap and has ghost writers, or about the sham around Beyonce ?
No, only when his fame was over how Jay Z didn’t came to his wedding.



yeah but i think he knows something about Aaliyah death, he and Aaliyah were very close, that we all know she was sacrificed to further Beyoncè's career
 

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The interview of V this time made me feel empathetic and sorry for him.
but on the other hand I saw that he was somewhat similar to Troye Sivan, from his speech, hair and gestures. or maybe it's just my feeling
 

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Yes, that hair dye thing has been often a topic as a symbol for something. I explained it from my point of view here.


They are overloaded from doing photo shootings and filming commercials. It takes AGES to get your make up done, hair, filming different sequences and it's not like you take a few pictures, as one sees in their bangtan bomb. You take hundreds of shots for one that makes it. Usual photoshootings go over days. So for one BTS picture you need at least two days of shooting.
The same amount of hours goes into every single interview they do, or lives.
The last ones they did without make up or hair style were years ago. Can't remember seeing them without their hair done or without make up. Even their clothes for the lives are chosen by the staff.
It is them unnaturally obsessed over putting make up on. Not the staff, not the company.
How the description of each color representing different personas came out and sort of stuffs? Do you have any idea? Its hillarious to watch people believeing that stuff tho.
 

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They should have stopped after a second video version of the song which was either way useless.

But the constant overload of new videos for Dynamite has turned it to the most hated song ever.

And Bang seems to not be able to sell anything without involving Taehyung.






Also here



http://instagr.am/p/CLVAARggN8j/


Talking about bands better than BTS



http://instagr.am/p/CIdbtO_J7oD/


Incredible how much filters and make-up they use



http://instagr.am/p/CNUfHOcFzMD/


vs



http://instagr.am/p/CMzjxoQlY_h/


As always, promoting drinking - fighting over the wine bottle



https://www.instagram.com/p/CNm2ndrIr3k/?igshid=ro0qzlqnku3v
didn't koreans and asians in general use to have cure of their skin , using lotions etc i guess Jungkook didn't have the time to do this, his skin is nowhere to be perfect like one of comments said
 

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I believe they’re masters when it comes to beauty treatments

Jungkook used to have acne which has to be treated - either with medicine or lotion/laser.

His acne didn’t looked like one to need medicine - I’ve known a person who followed treatment with pills because his entire face was simply an eruption zone, causing pain and infection

The problem is - one thing you CANNOT do is wear makeup - it’s worsening the condition very fast.

I assume the constant make-up made his condition only worse over the years.

He must have done something and quite a lot to treat it, because it doesn’t look as bad as it was. I can imagine though why it wasn’t possible to get rid of it completely.

His face now seems very clean in terms of pimples and obviously some more deeper treatments as acne like his leaves scars in the skin which can be removed with laser therapy.
ok thanks for the explanation
 

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They should have stopped after a second video version of the song which was either way useless.

But the constant overload of new videos for Dynamite has turned it to the most hated song ever.

And Bang seems to not be able to sell anything without involving Taehyung.






Also here



http://instagr.am/p/CLVAARggN8j/


Talking about bands better than BTS



http://instagr.am/p/CIdbtO_J7oD/


Incredible how much filters and make-up they use



http://instagr.am/p/CNUfHOcFzMD/


vs



http://instagr.am/p/CMzjxoQlY_h/


As always, promoting drinking - fighting over the wine bottle



https://www.instagram.com/p/CNm2ndrIr3k/?igshid=ro0qzlqnku3v
Lol, the tiny tan agenda again, brainwashing their fans by creating an image that bities members still a baby and innocent.

V' is the most popular member of bities and he is media's darling. Bang pedos knows who is the most useful to attract money.
Bities fans have problematic behavior, namely obsessive possessiveness who unconsciously rejects Bities as ordinary human beings. They love that fact, possesive fans is great source of money.

and about the fighting scene over wine bottle, their fans most likely will react "aigo, look at our babies, so cutee and innocent, they all billionaire, they could buy a wine company but still fighting over one bottle. Taehyungah..jungkok-ah. let me buy it for you" #bye
 
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Sorry for the late response, Door.
As to the question WHY their videos are so dark and deals with all those themes, I just wrote an answer to azure sirius explaining the exact issue.

Yes, they did their Save Me Webtoon based on their videos, also for the same reasons of people finding similarities and dealing/streaming old stuff to keep trending and getting even more involved emotionally in a fictional parasocial relation which is based on the members "weakness" , making them more reachable in their fans mind.
I wouldn't allow my children to watch such a crap. It's so unrealistic, this isn't the life any of the members has experienced, and it's fine. Art doesn't have to be auto-biographical. Take Prince as an example - he used to ask his billions of girlfriends (many underage) share personal things, troubles they have faced and he would use that in his songs. One of them got angry and made a statement to this situation.

The problem is that their fans get caught in this illusion, feeling emotional about the stories and projecting their reaction into even more feelings over the members.
I don't know if you've read the post, but I wrote once about it and quoted an article criticizing the story as well as their app, the one of being the band's "manager" and taking virtually control of their life.
The amount and height of manipulative content of everything they are doing it's mind-blowing.

Thank you for taking the time and posting the pictures (webtoon/videos) .
You are correct about your lyrics interpretation (consent), what I've wrote and your interpretation go the same direction and are both correct.
I don't know what to say about parents imposing their vision about children's future over them. It's a difficult thing. As a child or young person you don't have all the information and naturally one would be more attracted to things that come more easily than more work.
It can go wrong, but it can also end up better.
In my profession you don't get things done unless with force. Try making a child practice violin, or piano the entire day while everyone else is playing outside. Not only are you not allowed to, but even when you're allowed, you cannot risk it because of your hands, or legs (if you're a ballet dancer).
The situation you're describing it's an ideal one, but to expect from a child or a young person to have the same experience or knowledge as an adult/parent, in order to make a decision which will affect his life, it's unrealistic.
In the end if the parent's intention are the best ones, this should take precedence.

As far as Yoongi goes, given what he is doing now, he should have definitely listened to his parents.


When he joined BigHit, he seemed to be just another wanna-be-cool-kid with some wanna-be-in-a-gang-and-everyone-is-a-hater-style lyrics and parents are the evil. Naturally his parents were in the right to not allow him that.

So. Where did he ended up?
here

http://instagr.am/p/CBEJ1pYJz0K/

Your last paragraph....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Well, the relation between the lyrics and the video is...cricket sound.
Fans will hear the lyrics, imagining Taehyung/BTS members needing them, will imagine a story similar as the one in the video and boom it goes again, another dramatic scenario they can dream about and poor Taehyung abused by his father.
You see all their sufferance, the fans imagining holding them into their arms, ah perfect.
I thought my post was so boring that you decided not to reply, hahaha.

I didn't know that about Prince, that sounds very creepy.

You think the Save Me Webtoon was based on the videos? I thought it was the other way around, but I guess it doesnt really matter. Either way the content is very dark and creepy.

The app of being a manager? Are you talking about the BTS world game? Yeah, I saw people saying some really weird things about it, I even posted some stuff I found online. The sickest thing is that I heard, if i remember correctly, they used Jimin's eating disorder as a part of the game.

I agree with you that sometimes a child would prefer to do something that requires (seemingly) little work, I knew kids like that myself. But I think it depends on the person. If you've never had to work hard for anything, of course you wouldnt want to do it.
I just think if you have a good connection with your parents - you'll listen to them because you trust them, even if you don't agree with them. I myself had very unrealistic visions of what I wanted my future career to be, and my dad talked to me about it, without "putting down" my dreams. I feel like if he did put down my dreams I would persue them just to spite him, to say "you dont listen to me, and I wont listen to you, I wont do what you want to force me to!" As I wanted to persue art, I realized that I can just do it as a hobby, and my parents encouraged me to do something more practical. I guess I also sympathize with Yoongi a bit, the part where he said about his parents throwing out his raps so he'd focus more on school, because I too wrote poetry when I was in middle school, I can't imagine how much of a betrayal I would see that if my parents threw out something that I worked hard on, which I held very dear to me. That would be like a spit in my soul, because at least to me, my poetry was very personal and meaningful.
I think any parent will say that their intentions are the best, even abusive parents will say something like they're "preparing you for a rough world", or that "you're a little shit, so if I dont beat you you wont learn to behave".

I dont think Yoongi's parents would agree with you, at least his mother. Didn't she open a cafe that was Yoongi-themed? She was obviously either proud, or used his fame, either way, if she was ashamed of him, I dont think she would open a cafe and fill it with his idol photos. If she just wanted a cafe - she'd just quietly open it and tell no one that she's the BTS' Suga's mother.

"When he joined BigHit, he seemed to be just another wanna-be-cool-kid with some wanna-be-in-a-gang-and-everyone-is-a-hater-style lyrics and parents are the evil."
This is so funny, because I was thinking about something similar today. I heard an interesting song play in my brother-in-law's car, and it reminded me so much of Yoongi.

Welcome to the Machine by Pink Floyd:
"Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been
You've been in the pipeline
Filling in time
Provided with toys and scouting for boys
You brought a guitar to punish your ma
And you didn't like school
And you know you're nobody's fool

So welcome to the machine
Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
What did you dream?
It's alright we told you what to dream
You dreamed of a big star
He played a mean guitar
He always ate in the Steak Bar
He loved to drive in his Jaguar
So welcome to the machine."
 

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I thought my post was so boring that you decided not to reply, hahaha.

I didn't know that about Prince, that sounds very creepy.

You think the Save Me Webtoon was based on the videos? I thought it was the other way around, but I guess it doesnt really matter. Either way the content is very dark and creepy.

The app of being a manager? Are you talking about the BTS world game? Yeah, I saw people saying some really weird things about it, I even posted some stuff I found online. The sickest thing is that I heard, if i remember correctly, they used Jimin's eating disorder as a part of the game.

I agree with you that sometimes a child would prefer to do something that requires (seemingly) little work, I knew kids like that myself. But I think it depends on the person. If you've never had to work hard for anything, of course you wouldnt want to do it.
I just think if you have a good connection with your parents - you'll listen to them because you trust them, even if you don't agree with them. I myself had very unrealistic visions of what I wanted my future career to be, and my dad talked to me about it, without "putting down" my dreams. I feel like if he did put down my dreams I would persue them just to spite him, to say "you dont listen to me, and I wont listen to you, I wont do what you want to force me to!" As I wanted to persue art, I realized that I can just do it as a hobby, and my parents encouraged me to do something more practical. I guess I also sympathize with Yoongi a bit, the part where he said about his parents throwing out his raps so he'd focus more on school, because I too wrote poetry when I was in middle school, I can't imagine how much of a betrayal I would see that if my parents threw out something that I worked hard on, which I held very dear to me. That would be like a spit in my soul, because at least to me, my poetry was very personal and meaningful.
I think any parent will say that their intentions are the best, even abusive parents will say something like they're "preparing you for a rough world", or that "you're a little shit, so if I dont beat you you wont learn to behave".

I dont think Yoongi's parents would agree with you, at least his mother. Didn't she open a cafe that was Yoongi-themed? She was obviously either proud, or used his fame, either way, if she was ashamed of him, I dont think she would open a cafe and fill it with his idol photos. If she just wanted a cafe - she'd just quietly open it and tell no one that she's the BTS' Suga's mother.

"When he joined BigHit, he seemed to be just another wanna-be-cool-kid with some wanna-be-in-a-gang-and-everyone-is-a-hater-style lyrics and parents are the evil."
This is so funny, because I was thinking about something similar today. I heard an interesting song play in my brother-in-law's car, and it reminded me so much of Yoongi.

Welcome to the Machine by Pink Floyd:
"Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been
You've been in the pipeline
Filling in time
Provided with toys and scouting for boys
You brought a guitar to punish your ma
And you didn't like school
And you know you're nobody's fool

So welcome to the machine
Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
What did you dream?
It's alright we told you what to dream
You dreamed of a big star
He played a mean guitar
He always ate in the Steak Bar
He loved to drive in his Jaguar
So welcome to the machine."
don't know but your comment makes me think of this song :

 

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Yes, that hair dye thing has been often a topic as a symbol for something. I explained it from my point of view here.


They are overloaded from doing photo shootings and filming commercials. It takes AGES to get your make up done, hair, filming different sequences and it's not like you take a few pictures, as one sees in their bangtan bomb. You take hundreds of shots for one that makes it. Usual photoshootings go over days. So for one BTS picture you need at least two days of shooting.
The same amount of hours goes into every single interview they do, or lives.
The last ones they did without make up or hair style were years ago. Can't remember seeing them without their hair done or without make up. Even their clothes for the lives are chosen by the staff.
It is them unnaturally obsessed over putting make up on. Not the staff, not the company.
Guys I have a question, did you notice that JimIn out of all of them has gotten three national awards and in particular one of them is a pendant with a cross which in my mind is like a cross from the malta knits of some sort, and this has a lot of hidden meaning. Also in the last run episode jk said mistaningly while calling their team name out " jimIn and children" . I don't believe in coincidence and The cross it's definitely an award for someone shady, if you look into other celebs heavily involved in pizzagat and receiving similar symbols. Anyway wanted your opinion and thoughts on this. Thanks
 

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Hahaha. Not at all. I didn’t had much time this past weeks to write as regularly/detailed as usually do and I wanted to take the time to give a proper answer.


Yes, that app. Horrible. Horrible to use Jimin’s eating disorder. (Amongst other). This is so tasteless, inappropriate and once again gives insight over the reality of their persons and what’s going on within BigHit.
IF Jimin had/has eating disorders, he wouldn’t have agreed to such a disgusting project.
People suffering from eating disorders, are like drug addicts or people who cut themselves, who suffer from depression, etc. Depending on the severity, it’s difficult to deal normally with such a person. Because they’re mentally ill. Their brain doesn’t function properly.

So, if it was true that he suffered from eating disorders, to monetize on it, is simply shameless.

Now I understand better where your parenting standing point is coming from and why you are more for open discussion as in (me) - just do as I say. Hahahaha.
Though that’s one of those situations where writing online on a forum limits proper responses.

When it comes to arts (music, literature/poetry) you’ll have two type of parental reactions: those totally against it and those not letting you out of your room.
I find both correctly, depending on what the verdict is.

Arts has the disadvantage of being accessible, leading to the impression that one can limit itself to that specific area that you get attracted to, without realising the importance and necessity of a full background (like BTS for example).

I didn’t started writing poems and scripts until later in life, but until that moment I had a deep background of literature and analysis, including poetry.
I mean a background (again) filled with history lessons and poetry analysis from ancient times to now.
Doing cross-references, recognising styles, writing essays, etc.
I enjoyed it a lot, especially since I was getting good at it, even though it was not my field.

If you would have seriously wanted to pursue literature (because like music, or medicine, until you get to one area of that specific field, you need a thorough knowledge of everything related to it), you would have needed to get into a good arts and literature faculty, where you would have also studied history, philosophy and psychology. Meaning for at least until you wold have been 27-28 you would have studied without having any reassurance at least in the beginning, that you will be able to make a living form it.

It’s the same with music. Look at me how “good” it turned out, because yes, unfortunately, chances are high that you would have ended in a similar scenario.

Same as with music, most of the people nowadays making careers as writers are those allowed by the left, by the gays, by the elite who will dictate what and how to write.
You would have had chances if your parents would have been from the same field, capable of supporting you both financially as well as professionally (relations, connections).

Arts is in the end something where you have zero reassurance that you will be able to live from it. I mean…it was already bad 20 years ago. But nowadays, with all those creeps running around free and the non-existent level …imagine writing a poem worth the level of a Shakespeare and getting “cancelled” …

Bob Dylan got a Nobel (literature) Prize. Bob Dylan is a good song writer, but he is by far not as special or impressive as Tom Waits.

Regarding his mother throwing his writing away - that’s not alright, but I have the feeling that we’re not getting the full story. If she really did threw his writings away, without being able to recover his work, what set her off?
It sounds like one of the typical “victimising” scenarios.
p.s. his mother opened a cafe?? wow.


I like Pink Floyd, I like this song, but the amount of drugs they were under tops every single story I’ve heard of.
That line, though…You bought a guitar to punish your ma….hahahahahahahaha.
Thank you for taking the time to write a thoughtful and detailed reply! In that case, I really don't mind waiting.

Maybe Jimin agreed for the same reason something like depression and suicide is being so overused in media? Like "it's to start a conversation, to bring awareness" or some other stupid reason? Which is the reason harmful shows like "13 reasons why" say they exist for. I'm really starting to believe the victim stuff you keep talking about. About how profitable it is, and such.
I really really hope that Jimin's eating disorder is just a made up story by the company to make fans sympathetic. Because otherwise, it means Jimin is surrounded by people who are not JUST doing nothing, but people who see him purely as a product. "How can we best package Jimin to the fans?" kind of thing. It's psychopathic.
And Jimin's solo song Filter is the most creepiest hearbreaking thing I've ever heard, how can someone enjoy listening to that? Assuming it's genuine, he's pretty much screaming that he has identity issues and is willing to warp himself to be someone else to be liked.

You're totally right about art. It really scares me how much control over art there is. You just have to look at what is pushed onto the public. I simply cannot accept that people like the kind of trash that is being published, or also what is popular.
And just about how hard it is to make it in the field, as a teen I didnt think about these things. I kinda fantasized something totally, now I think, unachievable. Especially since I'm so sensitive and easily disheartened by critisism for what I create, I think I would've just given up half way and wasted a lot of my time.
But on the other hand, the internet has brought a lot of freedom to creative people, at least it seems so to me. Artists are posting art on instagram, fanfiction/poetry on tumblr. People can even self-publish books on amazon, or with indiegogo, and how many talented musicians are just posting stuff on youtube. If you are genuinly talented - you can do so much yourself, and if you're successful, you can be supported directly by fans.

Oh God, I hate Bob Dylan's songs so much. His writing never makes sense to me, it's just giberish that is pretending to be deep. I especially hate him because his music is so pretty, it makes you think that his writing is so deep, but if you read it as poetry without the music - it's nonsense. Sure, you can say "well, I see this as it means...", but to me that's not poetry. If it's so vague that it means different things to different people - it doesnt have any meaning.

I dont know much about Pink Floyd, but when I heard the lines "What did you dream? It's alright we told you what to dream. You dreamed of a big star" It hit me so hard.
It made me think of Yoongi's line in No More Dream - "I wanna big house, big cars & big rings".
It's like commercials showing you cool cars, or other material stuff "buy this and you'll be happy".

I thought the reason for throwing away his raps was just "stop wasting your time on these silly things and go study".
About the cafe, or restaraunt, I dont know what's the proper way to call it, but you probably hadn't heard about it because it didn't live long. Yoongi said that his mother had to close it because of health reasons. But it made me wonder, I remember hearing other parents of Kpop idols opening cafe's/restaraunts, which is such an odd thing to me. It's obviously connected to a popular idol, so it's not purely a cafe. And why cafe's? Why not a, I dont know, a flower shop? I dont know if what I'm saying makes sense.

Edit: I dont know if it's okay to ask, maybe this is personal, but since you work in the art field, did you ever regret choosing it when you realized that it's not what you though it is? Or did you always know what the field is like? Since you put so much time and effort to study the field, and then you realize how much control there is over what is allowed in art, especially nowadays. And if it's your job, it's not like you can pick and choose and say "I wont do that", if you need to put bread on the table.
I suppose art is held in such a tight grip because it's one of the things that can pierce through the soul. It can give hope, understanding, empathy, inspiration, but it can also twist your view of things by using your emotions.
 
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