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unfortunately this isn't smthg new like we all know, whether what he did was bullying or him being as mean as his classmates or whatever his teacher said, fans will always blindly defend their fav and throw "he changed" "he [whatever their excuse is]" here and there.
News just came in that the school he attended is unable to verify the identity of the teacher that defended him

He didn't get a couple of accusers but 4 accusers and 8 witnesses but JYP said their stories didn't match each other. Idk if we'll ever know the real truth but stays are making it worse in all honesty claiming he did nothing when he apologized not necessarily bullying but for his harmful words and actions
 

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Yup and isn’t the song about canniballs? i mean there is a lot of red color and people cooking and the famous line of felix that went viral. Idk the song is fishy.
This is the song that made me interested in the group and I'm now repulsed by it. I believe adrenochr*me was hinted in the mv with the test tubes and red color overlay in several scenes
 

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Y'all I was thinking: do u think 3racha really produces their songs? Idk what producing exactly means tbh but I doubt they are heavily involved in making the lyrics at least.
Unless 3racha themselves know exactly those mkultra, mind control related things(or smthg else u know, sometimes they say they write songs in a short time), there is a difference between their songs that reach 50 or even 100 millions compared to their old ones, even fans say that their first songs had their own color but now they "follow the trend". Like when u see their predebut songs they are clearly inspired by what teenagers were always talking about back then and now, after fame, it's completely smthg else.
I'm sure neither the lyrics in hellevator nor district 9 (debut song) respectively mean escaping their dark days by attaining success or breaking out of the system, in reality it's just the opposite and the writers just wanna encourage teenagers to rebel and do "whatever they want" like in "easy", having fun and living life "without their mother knowing" .
Anyways, it all has to be related to what happens behind the scenes.
You raise very important points, one thing i liked about the group was how they self produced their songs. After discovering the dark side of kpop I've wondered to myself if they truly do produce by themselves or are influenced by MKultra to make these songs.

I used to believe they wanted to break out of this sick system but it doesn't seem like that with their dark mvs (the ones that really blew up) show another thing. If the want more exposure in korean and internationally they're not breaking out of anything, they will simply get darker and darker.
 

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News just came in that the school he attended is unable to verify the identity of the teacher that defended him
really??? I know we shouldn't trust anyone here, neither the company nor someone who tells their version of their story(as we don't have enough proofs ourselves) but I remember reading that the teacher called other teachers to confirm their memories. If that testimony was rlly fake then...directed and written by quentin tarantino (jyp here I guess?)
 
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really??? I know we shouldn't trust anyone here, neither the company nor someone who tells their version of their story(as we don't enough proofs ourselves) but I remember reading that the teacher called other teachers to confirm their memories. If that testimony was rlly fake then...directed and written by quentin tarantino (jyp here I guess?)
Yes im waiting if more news follow up and for JYP to clarify the issue, knetz aren't happy at the moment

Just when i thought it couldn't get any worse
 

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Also we talked about symbolism in the first page, also let's not forget the blatant irritating querbaiting. I couldn't care less but the biggest problem is how they take advantage of their naive fans, whether young or not, to not only attract them and make them think that these interactions are very not scripted at all but also to push an agenda that is already there even more (it's the reason why they crave these moments in the 1st place).
That corrupt man named JYP really did calculate everything, from personality (see how humans are different? Jyp wanted them to be very different and gave each and every one of them a specific personality trait and some people even praised him for taking care of members' personality), to queerbaitig, to directing things as to not make them appear scripted (while it's very obvious).
Besides, Jyp as a whole doesn't deserve a ounce of respect, he was disgusting since the beginning, and it kinda makes my blood boil when he attracts millions of fans with the groups under his agency and they think they are giving money to support their faves but who's the "winner of the prize" at the end? Him. (the same with YG, lsm etc...).
Have you watched skz survival show? I didn't watch all of it but I saw him propaganding himself as a father figure and giving "valuable tips", very bad of him to lie like that.
 

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Also we talked about symbolism in the first page, also let's not forget the blatant irritating querbaiting. I couldn't care less but the biggest problem is how they take advantage of their naive fans, whether young or not, to not only attract them and make them think that these interactions are very not scripted at all but also to push an agenda that is already there even more (it's the reason why they crave these moments in the 1st place).
That corrupt man named JYP really did calculate everything, from personality (see how humans are different? Jyp wanted them to be very different and gave each and every one of them a specific personality trait and some people even praised him for taking care of members' personality), to queerbaitig, to directing things as to not make them appear scripted (while it's very obvious).
Besides, Jyp as a whole doesn't deserve a ounce of respect, he was disgusting since the beginning, and it kinda makes my blood boil when he attracts millions of fans with the groups under his agency and they think they are giving money to support their faves but who's the "winner of the prize" at the end? Him. (the same with YG, lsm etc...).
Have you watched skz survival show? I didn't watch all of it but I saw him propaganding himself as a father figure and giving "valuable tips", very bad of him to lie like that.
No, I haven't watched their survival shows. Is there a video of Jyp assigning personalities to them. Everything is a lie smh...
 

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No, I haven't watched their survival shows. Is there a video of Jyp assigning personalities to them. Everything is a lie smh...
oh no I don't think he would make that known, he certainly doesn't want people to know it's all scripted.
 

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The amount of shipping that goes on in this group is so intense. Especially with Lee Know and Han and the aussies and JYP takes the opportunity of making fans more obsessed... unless he planned it
ikr, chan made it clear many times that he knows what stays talk abt on social media, it wouldn't suprise me if even he takes the opportunity to manipulate some actions they do like their pr team. Or maybe he doesn't like it? idk but some members are definitely uncomfortable sometimes
edit: idk if they get uncomfortable but let's forget this part as we can't know
 
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Did you guys notice chans pose at the ending of chans room he winks and do the v sign. And once he freaked out bc he almost forgot to do it, it kinda creeps me
 
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And what is with all that thing called” kingdom” and why are they putting groups to preform in it ?and why is it important?
 

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Did you guys notice chans pose at the ending of chans room he winks and do the v sign. And once he freaked out bc he almost forgot to do it, it kinda creeps me
He legit freaked out?! I can see stays saying awhh he didn't want to end without one
 
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Anyways, yesterday weren’t asking ourselves if 3racha really entirely write their songs? today chan randomly goes live saying it was bc he missed one or whatever (not saying he is lying) and plays the song that is mentioned in the picture and said what’s in pic as well.
 
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Y'all I was thinking: do u think 3racha really produces their songs? Idk what producing exactly means tbh but I doubt they are heavily involved in making the lyrics at least.
Unless 3racha themselves know exactly those mkultra, mind control related things(or smthg else u know, sometimes they say they write songs in a short time), there is a difference between their songs that reach 50 or even 100 millions compared to their old ones, even fans say that their first songs had their own color but now they "follow the trend". Like when u see their predebut songs they are clearly inspired by what teenagers were always talking about back then and now, after fame, it's completely smthg else.
I'm sure neither the lyrics in hellevator nor district 9 (debut song) respectively mean escaping their dark days by attaining success or breaking out of the system, in reality it's just the opposite and the writers just wanna encourage teenagers to rebel and do "whatever they want" like in "easy", having fun and living life "without their mother knowing" .
Anyways, it all has to be related to what happens behind the scenes.
I do believe that they produce their own songs, the proofs are so easy to see. theres a lot of videos about them producing their songs and even songs of other artists, bc has also recently did a vlive with cb in c's room where they made a song from scratch, with their own beats and lyrics and stuff, but i dont buy how he said "i didnt know that cb would be here" because its obvi that they did that vlive to proof people that they do produce their own songs, theres also alot of vlives where he spoiled some song demos and beats to their upcoming songs or comebacks, he also has showed off his DJ and producing skills a lot of times, and 3r4cha also has produced other groups' and solo artists' songs, they know a lot of their songs and its meanings, and therefore, theyre sketchy. I remember the twt acc who had exposed h4n for racism also exposed how 3r4cha makes more money than the other members.

very sketchy, especially bc who has been a trainee for 7/8 years, i believe that they think he is too good to be placed to other groups such as G0T7 (he was supposed to be a member here) because of his producing skills and they dont want him to be outshined from the other g0t7 members and thought that they would keep him for a few years until they have found the right time to make him debut. I dont know if this is real or scripted but he is the first guy to ever get Jyp's permission to choose his own group members and also gets the trust of him to be the group's leader, while the other JYP groups has NEVER done this before, reminds me of Bt5 RM, the ceo chose him to become the group's leader (because of his producing skills too) but they dont let him "pick" the members, so bc must be powerful if he get to do it, i believe he did a lot of "stuff" during his 8 year long being a trainee. he also gave me cult leader vibes, just like rm but he is very much more somehow.

I do want to say smthg about h4n tho, he actually diagnosed with anxiety, and how he doesnt like being in the stage, the crowd, and near fans, but then he got blonde all of a sudden and he became okay and chill during their schedules, and thus i do believe that theyre still puppets, im still so sad about I.N, he literaly debuted when he is still a teenager, he seems lost.

and about w00jin, i dont believe that he got out of the group because of not wanting to be involved with the sketchy stuff because when he got out of the group, he still tries to be an idol by going solo, if he really is traumatized, he wouldnt still be in the spotlight or sign to another entertainment industry.
 

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The amount of shipping that goes on in this group is so intense. Especially with Lee Know and Han and the aussies and JYP takes the opportunity of making fans more obsessed... unless he planned it
happens to every group so im not surprised
 

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im gonna look like the most stupid delu but who cares not me bc im anonymous (not saying we must say stupid things bc we are anonymous but if we have doubts better get rid of them even tho they may be embarassing and look like a stretch) and I wanna know what u think, hoping that what im saying won’t influence the objectivity.
Anyways, yesterday weren’t asking ourselves if 3racha really entirely write their songs? today chan randomly goes live saying it was bc he missed one or whatever (not saying he is lying) and plays the song that is mentioned in the picture and said what’s in pic as well.
yeah and this song is legit about cannibalism, and their next song backdoor, in the MV theres a scene where the floor is red (sacrifice) and bc is all red (red hair, red outfit) and I.N and cb (i think) has blue hair, and after this comeback, they became HUGE soooo fast. bc has also mentioned how he loves astronomy, the moon, the stars, the sun and stuff, he also talked about how he loves his job so much to the point where he doesnt really think of it as a job cause he has a lot of fun doing it, this guy is just too much i could literally state and list the things that he said that makes me go "sketchy".

edit : also just realized how theyre the 2nd group to reach 200m in 2021, who is the first group you ask? bt5 ofc, theyre literally bt5 but gen z version
 
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very sketchy, especially bc who has been a trainee for 7/8 years, i believe that they think he is too good to be placed to other groups such as G0T7 (he was supposed to be a member here) because of his producing skills and they dont want him to be outshined from the other g0t7 members and thought that they would keep him for a few years until they have found the right time to make him debut. I dont know if this is real or scripted but he is the first guy to ever get Jyp's permission to choose his own group members and also gets the trust of him to be the group's leader, while the other JYP groups has NEVER done this before, reminds me of Bt5 RM, the ceo chose him to become the group's leader (because of his producing skills too) but they dont let him "pick" the members, so bc must be powerful if he get to do it, i believe he did a lot of "stuff" during his 8 year long being a trainee. he also gave me cult leader vibes, just like rm but he is very much more somehow.
I don't wanna slander that man or anyone but concerning the last sentance, the reason why I similarily thought that way is bc how he's depicted in some MVs: a cult leader. Literally. They are showing him all smiley as if reassuring the members while inviting them to enter the other world or whatever it is.

I do want to say smthg about h4n tho, he actually diagnosed with anxiety, and how he doesnt like being in the stage, the crowd, and near fans, but then he got blonde all of a sudden and he became okay and chill during their schedules, and thus i do believe that theyre still puppets, im still so sad about I.N, he literaly debuted when he is still a teenager, he seems lost.
I really can't believe any of their predebut stories of how they wanted to go to JYP (or how they randomly landed there), maybe the only one I can slightly believe is how hyunjin was casted but even that might have been planned.
 
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