The American “Coup d’etat”

[justjess]

You're right. You do not post MSM stuff exclusively. You also post social media stuff from random people. Bottom line, most people in the real kool-aid-drinking world would never take you for a conspiracy theorist.

I can easily demonstrate that you a) don't love your country or b) you don't know your own country and thus don't love it for what it is.

Artful - I don’t give a flying fuck what you think of me. You deny it was trump supporters but it was. You deny a lot of things all in support of a billionaire you think actually gives a fuck about you. He doesn’t. What you believe my country is and what it actually is are obviously two different things. Also please go fuck yourself.

 

[justjess]

This is what the last post says

"It's as bad or worse than we realized. Rick Klein, is the political director for ABC news...."cleansing" the country of trump supporters? Like Hitler cleansed euope of the jews?" He's saying that the political director of ABC news is calling for cleansing the country of trump supporters. So yeah everything I said applies

ABOVE THE FUCKING QUOTE. Don’t act dense. I’ve been watching him say “tick tock mother fuckers better repent of your liberal ways or pay the price” for months now. I wasn’t born yesterday.

 

[Artful Revealer]

And they don't have to be Qanon or "Trump supporters" either. So long as they bit on the main planks of bullshit that the Trumps and Alex Jones, or Nick Fuentes, or Tim Pool, or whoever had to offer, they are GONE.

The only ones who are gone are those who think Tim Pool is a fascist. Tim Pool is left of center. That's what the liberal pathogen has done to people like yourself. The political spectrum has been disequilibrated to such an extent that you've started identifying even leftists as fascist. You are the epitome of the problem.

 

[The Zone]

Jess, you seemingly think everything is natural, like the so-called riot itself. That is MSM 101 echo chamber stuff. And some here are pelted with that every day as if the MSM itself is not enough. If you want people to see you woke, quit parroting the MSM.

 

[lightseeker]

ABOVE THE FUCKING QUOTE. Don’t act dense. I’ve been watching him say “tick tock mother fuckers better repent of your liberal ways or pay the price” for months now. I wasn’t born yesterday.

Pretty inconvenient you left that in then! Also pretty exemplary of the grander scope of things.

 

[Artful Revealer]

Um, it’s not at all how it’s done in the U.S. though. This type of regulation would actually be unconstitutional here.

You have to understand that Poland’s economy and govt is not comparable to the U.S., and this is not surprising at all coming from “big govt” Poland. Their economic policy is held in the grip of centralized planning and deep regulation. It’s so neatly and tightly govt controlled, and that’s the only reason this type of regulation occurs. All under the false guise of “freedom” of course. This is an example of a system that is considered a distopian nightmare for capitalists and socialists alike.

Regulation of regulation of speech is unconstitutional? Not following here. The censorship would've been violation of the 1st Amendment as long as they identify as a platform and not a publisher if it weren't for how they circumvented it with section 230. Sanctioning the violation of the 1st Amendment is not unconstitutional. It would be protecting the Constitution.

 

[Artful Revealer]

Did you even read the article that you posted? “Couldn’t have been trump supporters it’s too far of a walk for the timeline to work” The article was complete bullshit. It’s only a fifteen minute walk and many left before the president stopped talking, many skipped the speech entirely, and the building wasn’t breached until 2pm almost an hour after he left the stage.

The point of the article if you follow the hyperlinks to the original WaPo one is that it were the leaders of the House and Senate who refused to increase security. I wasn't denying that it were Trump people that marched on the Capitol.

 

[vancityeagle]

Jess, you seemingly think everything is natural, like the so-called riot itself. That is MSM 101 echo chamber stuff. And some here are pelted with that every day as if the MSM itself is not enough. If you want people to see you woke, quit parroting the MSM.

seriously dude shut up you are annoying as hell, and deny reality to push your stupid narrative.

MSM echo chamber ?

Trump supporters have been arrested
ex military have been arrested
Proud boys and white supremacists have been arrested
the woman killed was ex military and a Qtard


but you think it was a "hoax" or "fake" or "a setup" YOu are denying reality. Either you are completely brainwashed, or you are intentionally ignoring the truth to push your agenda.

Who was responsible for all these Trumptards breaking in ? Yeah its must MSM echo chamber

You cannot provide anything factual, all you do is deny reality and pretend you and your crazed mob are some kind of outsiders, and you really dont support them, but you spend all your time on this forum doing so.

 

[lightseeker]

The only ones who are gone are those who think Tim Pool is a fascist. Tim Pool is left of center. That's what the liberal pathogen has done to people like yourself. The political spectrum has been disequilibrated to such an extent that you've started identifying even leftists as fascist. You are the epitome of the problem.

So true

 

[vancityeagle]

The point of the article if you follow the hyperlinks to the original WaPo one is that it were the leaders of the House and Senate who refused to increase security. I wasn't denying that it were Trump people that marched on the Capitol.

there are contradicting reports, they seem to be blaming each other. Here's what we know.

Capitol Police appears to be main culprit. They were well understaffed. The head has resigned. Capitol Police is controlled by Congress, but regardless of who they are controlled by, many police are sympathetic with Trump. The capitol police who was killed WAS A TRUMP SUPPORTER. Many of the Capitol police were helping the MAGA rioters, and even showing them were certain rooms and offices were.

The National Guard WAS handicapped by Trump, they were not allowed the sufficient equipment or arms and ordered to be nowhere near the Capitol, and after they were called, it took them 4 hours to respond. The national Guard is controlled by the DOD, who Trump overhauled just weeks ago to put in loyalists.

its not quite clear what was going on with Capitol Police or who was responsible for what but definately something fishy was going on with them.

In regards to the National Guard, that one is definately on Trump. So no matter how you spin this, Trump was at least partially involved with the lack of protection, equipment, and response time. there is no way of getting around that.

and no matter who was ultimately responsible for lack of security

MAGA was responsible for breaking in and rioting and looting. You cannot blame that on anybody else. These people were unhinged, 4 years of pro-Trump propaganda does that to you.

 

[The Zone]

Van, ALL YOU DO is agenda post. Nobody pays attention to you anymore for you've become a running joke. You should be happier though for you have tons of allies with MSM.
https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/11/trump-rioters-no-fly-airport-arrests-capitol-siege/ _Trumpers dragged off from their children for being at the event in ANY capacity.

I am sure you will snicker at the video linked, yet to most of us it is alarming for thought crimes are coming and we know which side two people in this thread are clearly on.

 

[Faker He-Man]

Regulation of regulation of speech is unconstitutional? Not following here. The censorship would've been violation of the 1st Amendment as long as they identify as a platform and not a publisher if it weren't for how they circumvented it with section 230. Sanctioning the violation of the 1st Amendment is not unconstitutional. It would be protecting the Constitution.

You really don’t get it at all, do you? Many U.S. citizens are equally clueless. YES it’s absolutely unconstitutional to place such a draconian regulation on a private entity. You’re being played like a fiddle with this section 230 nonsense. Section 230 protects free speech, despite how right wing propaganda spins it. Section 230 protects every website equally, as it should. We have a marketplace of ideas, and if a business decides that certain ideas are not in the interest of their profit margins (or for any reason really), then they have the complete freedom to decide which ideas represent them, and which ideas do not, along with the freedom to completely disassociate their business from the latter. Private entities in Poland have now lost this freedom.

 

[lightseeker]

You really don’t get it at all, do you? Many U.S. citizens are equally clueless. YES it’s absolutely unconstitutional to place such a draconian regulation on a private entity. You’re being played like a fiddle with this section 230 nonsense. Section 230 protects free speech, despite how right wing propaganda spins it. We have a marketplace of ideas, and if a business decides that certain ideas are not in the interest of their profit margins (or for any reason really), then they have the complete freedom to decide which ideas represent them, and which ideas do not, along with the freedom to completely disassociate their business from the latter. Private entities in Poland have now lost this freedom.

Those poor billion dollar corporations. Thank you for going to boot for them! Very noble and principled. It would literally be fascist nazism genocidal Caesarian Ghengis Khanian Atilla the Hunian imperialist Darth Vaderism to regulate them

 

[vancityeagle]

Van, ALL YOU DO is agenda post. Nobody pays attention to you anymore for you've become a running joke. You should be happier though for you have tons of allies with MSM.
https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/11/trump-rioters-no-fly-airport-arrests-capitol-siege/

oh boo hoo.

Poor Trumpers. They are being villified for breaking into Capitol hill, looting and killing a cop.

Boo Hoo, MSM.

at what point will you admit there is a problem with these people ?

 

[Faker He-Man]

Those poor billion dollar corporations. Thank you for going to boot for them! Very noble and principled. It would literally be fascist nazism genocidal Caesarian Ghengis Khanian Atilla the Hunian imperialist Darth Vaderism to regulate them

Thanks, I guess, but I honestly don’t pay attention to you at all any longer. When I see your screen name, it’s actually a relief to know I can just keep on scrolling.

 

[justjess]

The point of the article if you follow the hyperlinks to the original WaPo one is that it were the leaders of the House and Senate who refused to increase security. I wasn't denying that it were Trump people that marched on the Capitol.

The point of the article was to deny trump supporters did this based on a bogus timeline and a false claim about how far away the locations are from eachother. If all you wanted to point out was that Capitol police answers to congressional leaders you should have made that clear. As it stand congressional leaders repeatedly called for help once this started and were rebuked numerous times. Who in congress ordered the Capitol police to stand down is still unknown. There’s a lot of possible actors to choose from and we have no indication in any way shape or form that makes any one person more likely than another.

 

[The Zone]

oh boo hoo.

Poor Trumpers. They are being villified for breaking into Capitol hill, looting and killing a cop.

Boo Hoo, MSM.

at what point will you admit there is a problem with these people ?

Breaking in, looting just stop with it already. This is why you got kicked off the David Icke forums. I mean, how bad do you have to be to get the boot there of all places. Go on with your partisan hack shit and wanting our freedoms squelched. You are so commie.

 

[vancityeagle]

Van, ALL YOU DO is agenda post. Nobody pays attention to you anymore for you've become a running joke. You should be happier though for you have tons of allies with MSM.
https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/11/trump-rioters-no-fly-airport-arrests-capitol-siege/ _Trumpers dragged off from their children for being at the event in ANY capacity.

I am sure you will snicker at the video linked, yet to most of us it is alarming for thought crimes are coming and we know which side two people in this thread are clearly on.

Have you done enough to call out the crazies and loons amongst you ?

If you did so, maybe one would sympathize when you get lumped into the same category.

But you've denied the loons have been a problem all along, and denied and downplayed all of their actions, even supported them in many cases. So you are just the same as them to be honest.

 

[Faker He-Man]

All regulations on business are not inherently bad, though. I’m not living in some libertarian dingbat fantasy world, don’t get me wrong. We need regulations, mostly to prevent businesses from externalizing expenses.

 

[justjess]

Jess, you seemingly think everything is natural, like the so-called riot itself. That is MSM 101 echo chamber stuff. And some here are pelted with that every day as if the MSM itself is not enough. If you want people to see you woke, quit parroting the MSM.

What is natural? Or unnatural? Why is the “everything is fake” take the only possible avenue of conspiracy anymore? Do you all lack imagination?

corona - not fake but not natural either
Blm riots - a mix of both
Capitol storming - a mix of both.

nothing is as simple as yelling “FAKE NEWS” all the time.

real radicalized trump supporters stormed the Capitol. Real Capitol police and real members of Congress aided and abetted them to do so. Real trump and his chosen officials made sure that there would be massive delays in receiving additional assistance. All of that is real. Thatdoesn’t mean there isn’t a conspiracy - people plotting to overtake the American government IS A CONSPIRACY.

just like 911 - it definitely happened, people definitely died. It was still a conspiracy. The conspiracy was in the omissions and purposeful failures that got us there. The “helping along” of things.