Right wing terrorism thread

[vancityeagle]

I'm starting this new thread, thought about posting in the George Floyd thread, but I feel this subject really needs a thread of its own to document right wing terrorism and street violence.

Proud Boy leader Enrico Tarrio arrested for DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY , something our right wing friends seem to care so much about. He burnt a black lives matter sign and when arrested today in Washington he was found with illegal high capacity magazines.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/proud-boys-arrest-black-lives-matter-banner/index.html

 

[vancityeagle]

white supremacists plotted to attack US power stations

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fbi-white-supremacists-plotted-attack-220038429.html

 

[vancityeagle]

Of course recently in Olympia Washington, a pro-Trump protester shot into a crowd of anti-Trump protesters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/13/man-arrested-olympia-wash-after-pro-trump-demonstrations-turn-violent/

 

[vancityeagle]

Not only has Trump called for violence, but many of his Republican allies in government as well.

Republican Representative Louie Gohmert calls for street violence as the lawsuits continue to fail.

https://news.yahoo.com/rep-gohmert-calls-street-violence-183409939.html

 

[Karlysymon]

white supremacists plotted to attack US power stations

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fbi-white-supremacists-plotted-attack-220038429.html

Tying the plot to whether Trump retains or loses the presidency is a huge red flag to me.

Honest question: if something like this happened "tomorrow" (and the chances of that happening seem to be increasing by the day as Jan 20th approaches) and the FBI said it was a white supremacist lonewolf, would you believe it and why?

 

[DavidSon]

Tying the plot to whether Trump retains or loses the presidency is a huge red flag to me.

Honest question: if something like this happened "tomorrow" (and the chances of that happening seem to be increasing by the day as Jan 20th approaches) and the FBI said it was a white supremacist lonewolf, would you believe it and why?

Yup that yahoo article was the first one that caught my eye. AP says they're not releasing names of suspects yet but we'll see. A teenager being involved is the first red flag.

@vancityeagle I thought of making a similar thread but my perspective is investigating false flags. Same intention though, searching for truth within the storm of events.

James Corbett said his prediction for 2021 was a spike in "right-wing extremist terror attacks" and sadly he's probably right. When the FBI and other arms of the security apparatus condition us for two years with a narrative... these events might be inevitable (whether real or fabricated).

 

[lightseeker]

The amount of "foiled rw terror" attacks last year was laughable. Always just one step ahead, that heroic CIA.

 

[The Zone]

I will guarantee a false flag or generated right-wing issue, likely with the proud boys this week in Washington. Anyone who cannot see that coming is blind, but the OP here will fall for it. There is a possibility some attacks could be natural, but to think there is a heavily planned uprising is ridiculous. People are not that together and overall the right is docile. You come at them in their homes and it will be a different story. It is just hard for me to take Vancity seriously in that there does not seem to be an objective bone in their body due to the constant fear porn produced here. Some of you who have never set foot in the US sure are off a bit or buying into what the MSM feeds you from afar.

Now, what should be clear is that they will make sure something happens. It is inevitable for divide.

If people continue to go to others property or persons (see Hawley), this will not end well for those visiting in most places. It is out of control, contrived and the ONLY thing planned is action to DIVIDE FURTHER.

You cannot point at one side and not be aware that Antifa is rapping on politicians' doors. Or maybe someone posing as Antifa just as they could pose as a proud boy. I am actually surprised that a board like this buys into this not being fueled.

 

[vancityeagle]

The amount of "foiled rw terror" attacks last year was laughable. Always just one step ahead, that heroic CIA.

how about the amount of actual attacks carried out ? Are you trying to suggest that no attacks will ever be foiled ? This isn't just an American phenomenon by the way. Here's a few of the major ones. Bolded are attacks outside of the US.

2020 Boogaloo boys kill 2 police
2020 Hanau shootings in Germany killing 8
2019 New Zeland christchurch mosque shootings killing 51
2019 El Paso Wallmart shooting killing 23
2019 Poway Synagogue shooting killing 1
2019 Halle Syagogue shooting in Germany killing 2
2018 Florida Stoneman Douglas shooting killing 17
2018 Jeffersontown Kroger grocery store shooting killing 2
2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting killing 11
2018 shooting of 6 immigrants in Italy
2017 Quebec mosque shooting killing 6
2017 Portland train attack kill 2
2015 Colorado springs Planned parenthood shooting killing 3
2015 Charleston Church shooting killing 9
2014 murder of 3 Las Vegas police
2012 Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting killing 6
2011 Florence Italy shooting killing 2 immigrant peddlers
2011 Norway attacks killing 77

YOu can't remain in denial forever. There is a problem with right wing beliefs that leads fanatics to kill in the name of their ideology. This isn't some made up thing.

 

[vancityeagle]

I will guarantee a false flag or generated right-wing issue, likely with the proud boys this week in Washington. Anyone who cannot see that coming is blind, but the OP here will fall for it. There is a possibility some attacks could be natural, but to think there is a heavily planned uprising is ridiculous. People are not that together and overall the right is docile. You come at them in their homes and it will be a different story. It is just hard for me to take Vancity seriously in that there does not seem to be an objective bone in their body due to the constant fear porn produced here. Some of you who have never set foot in the US sure are off a bit or buying into what the MSM feeds you from afar.

Now, what should be clear is that they will make sure something happens. It is inevitable for divide.

If people continue to go to others property or persons (see Hawley), this will not end well for those visiting in most places. It is out of control, contrived and the ONLY thing planned is action to DIVIDE FURTHER.

You cannot point at one side and not be aware that Antifa is rapping on politicians' doors. Or maybe someone posing as Antifa just as they could pose as a proud boy. I am actually surprised that a board like this buys into this not being fueled. I will vacate the thread knowing it only leads to those silly and petty back and forths that litter this place.

you clearly are ignoring the vast array of deranged voices on social media calling for violence and murder all in the name of keeping an elite p***phile in power.

YOur side has been radicalized and completely exiled from reality. A dangerously unhinged population. The proof is in the pudding. People who think like you have been murdering and terrorizing for hundreds of years.

To you there could never be a "legitimate" act of right wing terror or violence, yet you obsess about the "violent" Antifa mobs, even though right wing operatives have been proven to carry out false flags in some instances to blame them. Whether it was murdering cops or even setting fires to police stations. Of course you have NOTHING to say about this, because you are simply an ideological warrior fighting your culture war, and truth is no concern of yours.

Calling a documentation of a long line of murder and terror "fear porn" yet obsessing over graffiti and smashed windows and claiming that "America is burning"

Who is trafficking in fear porn ?

Pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Karlysymon]

Yup that yahoo article was the first one that caught my eye. AP says they're not releasing names of suspects yet but we'll see. A teenager being involved is the first red flag.

@vancityeagle I thought of making a similar thread but my perspective is investigating false flags. Same intention though, searching for truth within the storm of events.

James Corbett said his prediction for 2021 was a spike in "right-wing extremist terror attacks" and sadly he's probably right. When the FBI and other arms of the security apparatus condition us for two years with a narrative... these events might be inevitable (whether real or fabricated).

Its funny, isn't it?
From the article:

The Ohio teen, who was 17 at the time, also shared plans with a smaller group about a plot to create a power outage by shooting rifle rounds into power stations in the southeastern U.S. The teen called the plot “Light's Out” and there were plans to carry it out in the summer of 2021, the affidavit states.

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An actual gamed Operation Blackout by the alphabet agencies who happen to have access to the power grid rather than a rag tag group of Gen Z'ers.

"Right wing extremist terror" is a dragnet. 'Islamic terrorism' served its purpose and didn't take racial profiling far enough and unlike it, the former makes "You" suspicious of everyone regardless of color or religion. The Nashville bombing was, i think, the first domino.

True, i've seen comments to articles in the vein of "we need people to die for the cause of stopping tyranny" but if Islamic terror attacks over the last 20yrs are anything to go by, its safe to conclude that most of the attacks that will be blamed on right wing extremists will be fabricated or gov't-directed. The playbook never changes.

“What we are now experiencing is the importation of the dreaded ‘Operation Phoenix’ program into the United States. . .Through various created and manipulated acts of violence, the only ‘solution’ to ‘chaos, anarchy, and senseless violent acts’ will be a police state. We can expect the planned terrorization of the U.S. population to escalate rapidly.”-Mae Brussell in 1974

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[The Zone]

It is not my side Vancity, so stop trying to force me into box. You see things in black and white and agenda post. You speak of nothing but left-wing politics and Trump people and never they're trying to divide us. And you have NEVER set foot in the U.S. - thank God.

I have faith in people, here again, reading Karly's take.

 

[vancityeagle]

Its funny, isn't it?
From the article:

VS​

An actual gamed Operation Blackout by the alphabet agencies who happen to have access to the power grid rather than a rag tag group of Gen Z'ers.

"Right wing extremist terror" is a dragnet. 'Islamic terrorism' served its purpose and didn't take racial profiling far enough and unlike it, the former makes "You" suspicious of everyone regardless of color or religion. The Nashville bombing was, i think, the first domino.

True, i've seen comments to articles in the vein of "we need people to die for the cause of stopping tyranny" but if Islamic terror attacks over the last 20yrs are anything to go by, its safe to conclude that most of the attacks that will be blamed on right wing extremists will be fabricated or gov't-directed. The playbook never changes.

“What we are now experiencing is the importation of the dreaded ‘Operation Phoenix’ program into the United States. . .Through various created and manipulated acts of violence, the only ‘solution’ to ‘chaos, anarchy, and senseless violent acts’ will be a police state. We can expect the planned terrorization of the U.S. population to escalate rapidly.”-Mae Brussell in 1974

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you seem to keep falling for one end of this paradigm. Where there is no middle ground. These attacks all seem to be fake to you. It's always a false flag 100% of the time.

The fact that alphabet agencies have gamed certain scenarios does not mean that there are not unhinged individuals who would carry out similar attacks.

That would be as silly as suggesting that since police have training scenarios where criminals carry out crimes, that means all crimes are carried out by police.

Are you telling me, there are no unhinged right wingers out there who would commit acts of terror ? Outside of the alphabet agencies. Is this really what you want people to believe, because that seems to me to be your position on this topic. You seem to always want to deny, deny, deny.

 

[lightseeker]

how about the amount of actual attacks carried out ? Are you trying to suggest that no attacks will ever be foiled ? This isn't just an American phenomenon by the way. Here's a few of the major ones. Bolded are attacks outside of the US.

2020 Boogaloo boys kill 2 police
2020 Hanau shootings in Germany killing 8
2019 New Zeland christchurch mosque shootings killing 51
2019 El Paso Wallmart shooting killing 23
2019 Poway Synagogue shooting killing 1
2019 Halle Syagogue shooting in Germany killing 2
2018 Florida Stoneman Douglas shooting killing 17
2018 Jeffersontown Kroger grocery store shooting killing 2
2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting killing 11
2018 shooting of 6 immigrants in Italy
2017 Quebec mosque shooting killing 6
2017 Portland train attack kill 2
2015 Colorado springs Planned parenthood shooting killing 3
2015 Charleston Church shooting killing 9
2014 murder of 3 Las Vegas police
2012 Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting killing 6
2011 Florence Italy shooting killing 2 immigrant peddlers
2011 Norway attacks killing 77

YOu can't remain in denial forever. There is a problem with right wing beliefs that leads fanatics to kill in the name of their ideology. This isn't some made up thing.

1. You are a supporter of BLM and antifa, violent leftwing factions
2. Therefore, you believe political violence is nessessary and justified.
3.Therefore, you tacitly grant the power of violence to political beliefs that are not your own (see point 2)
4. Nobody here supports right wing violence
5. You support political violence
6. You support right wing political violence by inference

Moving along now, nothing to see here

 

[vancityeagle]

It is not my side you Vancity. You see things in black and white and agenda post. You speak of nothing but left-wing politics and Trump people and never they're trying to divide us. And you have NEVER set foot in the U.S. - thank God.

I have faith in people, here again, reading Karly's take.

oh please stop trying this fake "its not my side" BS when all you do is defend them and prop up their propaganda. You aren't fooling anybody.

If you were so concerned about them trying to divide us, where is all your unmasking of Trump and his division agenda ? No you've done nothing but add to it and promote it, so please spare me your fake outrage.

I've set foot in the US plenty, I have family and friends there, unlike a certain European fascist on this forum you support who is so obsessed with Trump.

 

[Wigi]

The title is misleading you should talk about Far-right accelerationism and the possibility of false flags in its name.
Anders Breivik the author of Norway terror attacks for example was a freemason.

 

[vancityeagle]

1. You are a supporter of BLM and antifa, violent leftwing factions
2. Therefore, you believe political violence is nessessary and justified.
3.Therefore, you tacitly grant the power of violence to political beliefs that are not your own (see point 2)
4. Nobody here supports right wing violence
5. You support political violence
6. You support right wing political violence by inference

Moving along now, nothing to see here

BLM does not support violence. The whole movement is to stop violence, which you all are OK with, so long as it is directed towrds the right people. Hence clowns like Proud Boys sucking off the cops, only to change tune when they are met with tiny amounts of violence.

If you want to point to anecdotes to tarnish a whole movement, then I can call all right wingers terrorists. That is the standard YOU are setting.

Antifa opposes Fascism, which I agree with 100%. Fascism by its nature is violence directed down from above, using useful idiots to carry it out.

I dont support offensive violence. You can continue to lie, like you always do.

Of course you have nothing to say about the mass violence commited in the name of your deranged ideology.

 

[vancityeagle]

The title is misleading you should talk about Far-right accelerationism and the possibility of false flags in its name.
Anders Breivik the author of Norway terror attacks for example was a freemason.

I'm missing something.

Does him being a freemason cancel the fact that he believed in far right wing ideology ?

 

[vancityeagle]

LOL people are getting triggered.

These kind of threads always exposes the fascists. They come running out in droves to try and put out the flames.

My experiences are that fascists desperately try to hold on to the notion that THEY ARE NOT VIOLENT.

They will deny this as they literally murder you.

 

[The Zone]

Right WIng! Fascist! F Trump! Agenda 101. The reason people stray from real or attempted conversation with you is that you are living in a self-imposed prison of the mind where you think one side is all good and one side is all evil. You let a single man fry your nerves to the point where you cannot be objective.

You were the wrong person to start what could have been a great thread on an interesting subject for you had an agenda. You may notice I participate in a lot of threads when here and not in what has become running joke threads where people spin their wheels every day on political discourse. Yeah, I laugh in them sometimes, but I want to get down to what is likely to come and discuss it without the major slant. You did not seem to want open discussion and seem blind to the fact that the divide is orchestrated on both sides of late and people pulling strings.

Look at your last post. People are not triggered! You did not win a cookie! Your last post clearly points to how unhealthy your mind is right now. Nobody is talking killing here but YOU. Hmm, it seems you got exactly what you wanted when posting this thread. A place where you can hurl bullshit. I am not your boogie man nor will I play in your reindeer games.