Feminist Lies That Are Making Women Miserable

[Cintra]

What did you do to earn it?

Nothing.
But kids are very demanding these days, and if you don't buy me one I will tell my school and they will contact you and tell you and say that it is important for my education.

And then you will have to buy me one.

*makes childish raspberry noises and runs off laughing*

 

[doublestandardism]

Wow how did this thread manage to get *worse*?

 

[KoncreteMind]

Nothing.

Lol oh okay I can’t help you with that one

And you can’t tell the teacher and get anything out of it if you’re being homeschooled and I’m the teacher lol

 

[Lyfe]

The problem is that feminism is painting history as an abuse of male power and that women have always lived in oppression under a tyrannical patriarch system. Its an extremely dangerous teaching and you see that belief is alive and well in this thread. It creates mistrust and it gives people wrong motives.

...what's hypocritical though is why are men still expected by women to fulfill their traditional and specific gender roles within society and family while the idea of asking your wife what time dinner will be ready is offensive. Women wouldn't think twice about a man if she was the one expected to go grab a bat during a house break in within the relationship, or if she was the one expected to get out and change a tire on the side of the highway, or if members within the family had an option who was to go to war in a draft and the man suggested that it should be discussed who should go to honor the notion of equality... No woman is going to respect or stay with a man in a relationship where the man looks to her to do these things... Why the double standard?

 

[justjess]

Sorry Jess, my opinion is that men was NEVER supposed to *let* women do whatever they want. Believe it or not, you’re under our care/guidance just as a child would be.

Sorry KM I don’t want to be the one to break it to you... but we just let you guys believe that so as not to bruise your egos. Every wife knows this to be the case.

 

[justjess]

The problem is that feminism is painting history as an abuse of male power and that women have always lived in oppression under a tyrannical patriarch system. Its an extremely dangerous teaching and you see that belief is alive and well in this thread. It creates mistrust and it gives people wrong motives.

...what's hypocritical though is why are men still expected by women to fulfill their traditional and specific gender roles within society and family while the idea of asking your wife what time dinner will be ready is offensive. Women wouldn't think twice about a man if she was the one expected to go grab a bat during a house break in within the relationship, or if she was the one expected to get out and change a tire on the side of the highway, or if members within the family had an option who was to go to war in a draft and the man suggested that it should be discussed who should go to honor the notion of equality... No woman is going to respect or stay with a man in a relationship where the man looks to her to do these things... Why the double standard?

I have seen barely any comments whatsoever about the patriarchy in this thread except coming from you.

 

[Lyfe]

I have seen barely any comments whatsoever about the patriarchy in this thread except coming from you.

No? I cant count how many times I read through remarks here alluding to male abuse of power and women as property.

 

[Cintra]

No? I cant count how many times I read through remarks here alluding to male abuse of power and women as property.

But that was mostly me.
And no one is ever sure wether I am joking or not.

 

[Lyfe]

But that was mostly me.
And no one is ever sure wether I am joking or not.

Kerrich didnt seem to share in your humor.

 

[Maes17]

Once they allowed women into the workforce (which lowered wages for everyone) that made it to where both parties had to work to cover everything. So it’s not so much about that but the bigger picture that feminism is teaching. Which is luciferianism. That women should do and be whatever it is they want to do and be.

From a career perspective I see no problem with letting women pursue what they want.

Sounds like some are controlling

 

[Lyfe]

...what's interesting though is that that there are studies that actually reveal that in countries where there is the most freedom of choice and least amount of hindrances standing between women to freely and without limitation to pursue careers of their choice they actually choose(of their own will) career fields related to the traditional roles they have been known for all along. Which begs the question if such roles were ever forced upon them to begin with, or if it wasnt a natural propensity to gravitate toward such roles already present within women...

 

[Cintra]

Kerrich didnt seem to share in your humor.

His loss.

 

[justjess]

...what's interesting though is that that there are studies that actually reveal that in countries where there is the most freedom of choice and least amount of hindrances standing between women to freely and without limitation to pursue careers of their choice they actually choose(of their own will) career fields related to the traditional roles they have been known for all along. Which begs the question if such roles were ever forced upon them to begin with, or if it wasnt a natural propensity to gravitate toward such roles already present within women...

So let’s just say that’s true... do you realize how many essential jobs in our economy require those skills? Do you think the elderly, disabled, sick and children should just not be able to access any services cuz all the women who would be providing them packed it up and went home? The problem with society is it’s refusal to acknowledge that feminine traits are just as necessary to the functioning of society as a whole as maculine traits are - that doesn’t mean restrict women to their kitchens. We are out of balance but sending women to the kitchen won’t help. You need those traits in every level and every corner of every sphere - we lack balance.

 

[Lyfe]

So let’s just say that’s true... do you realize how many essential jobs in our economy require those skills? Do you think the elderly, disabled, sick and children should just not be able to access any services cuz all the women who would be providing them packed it up and went home? The problem with society is it’s refusal to acknowledge that feminine traits are just as necessary to the functioning of society as a whole as maculine traits are - that doesn’t mean restrict women to their kitchens. We are out of balance but sending women to the kitchen won’t help. You need those traits in every level and every corner of every sphere - we lack balance.

When and where is it implied here a woman is only useful in a kitchen?

 

[justjess]

When and where is it implied here a woman is only useful in a kitchen?

It wasn’t implied. It was blatant. Women should stay home right? That’s what you’ve been arguing this whole time. Women should be homemakers and not have careers.

 

[Lyfe]

It wasn’t implied. It was blatant. Women should stay home right? That’s what you’ve been arguing this whole time. Women should be homemakers and not have careers.

I never blatantly said women should stay at home. I dont even recall saying women should outright do or be anything...

This is what I actually said...

Maybe if enough women realized how much value to society, their children, and husbands that a family orientated existence poses they may be persuaded and could mobilize and advocate to have the economy be reformed and dictated by that rather than their role become dictated by the economy.

Most women have only heard how great it is for them they have the same opportunities as men to work. They are so blinded and overwhelmed by this notion that no thought is given into how beneficial to society and even their own welfare that such a life could provide.
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The solution is first for women to rerealise worth and value that exists within a traditional family oriented existence that was at one point and time more prevalent and recognized as important. Stop attributing such a way of life to feminist lies that it leads to misery and is a form of outdated oppression. Most women are happiest when they are expressing their innate biology to nurture in the form of wife and motherhood tasks, not wasting it as some corporate cog being alienated and mutated into a golemn. Thats the first step in giving value and worth to it...

 

[Truthteller]

Actually historically women have always worked outside of the home on the fields in agricultural socieities. They often did this to support the family. Being indoors was a luxury that only noble women and aristocrats could afford. In modern times, many families struggle to make ends meet with a single income. They have no choice but to work.

 

[Cintra]

Actually historically women have always worked outside of the home on the fields in agricultural socieities. They often did this to support the family. Being indoors was a luxury that only noble women and aristocrats could afford. In modern times, many families struggle to make ends meet with a single income. They have no choice but to work.

Yes.
A lot of this is a class thing.

 

[Lyfe]

I dont think anyone here has said that women have never worked or done any sort of physical labor. Its in what capacity and context. What capacity and context directly before feminism and what capacity and context post feminism in this particular country.

If you actually glance at the OP tho it is moreso about the social engineering of the feminism movement and how it changed how females think. How it changed their view on things like their place and role in society, motherhood, family, their identity and etc etc...

 

[Lyfe]

This thread also really isnt even a matter of equality and can women work or should women work, but regardless of personal belief what are the direct implications in society by feminist social engineering and how it affects the whole of society. My beliefs and opinions on the matter are what they are, but that's irrelevant. It is just purely what happens to society(namely children and the family) when you aim at what feminism did which is condition women into living according to the notion that career related pursuit ought to be their primary goal and objective in life... There was this mindset of what was best for the family. Now it is what career will bring the most satisfaction. I believe feminism lies to women, because like I keep reiterating is that women are by design not driven by career ambitions (its not even what brings most fulfillment either according to the data), but now they are certainly pressured by feminism to pursue one as all their meaning and worth is now attached to it. Women are measured by feminist ambitions and not as mothers or wives, nurturers and etc which used to be the value they were measured by. What men value in women really has nothing to do with their career either. Feminism changed how women think and see themselves and not for their better I believe.