Feminist Lies That Are Making Women Miserable

Cintra

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I thought the nipple acccess was for feeding babies. Since most people love breasts and nipples, it also was also perhaps a bit of a ribald fashion choice, but feeding the child was my understanding for the basis of those early fashionistas...
No, there were fashions that showed women's breasts.
Part of it was for those women to style themselves after a fertility ideal. But the fashion was not confined, or even intended, for nursing mothers
 

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Tidal said- at one end of the scale are hardboiled man-hating feminists..
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What do you see at the other end of the scale?

At the other end are women who are too soft and sweet and easy-going for their own good..:)
For example I've just walked out of a Prepper forum because a woman moderator (Annie) was too soft to tackle the trolls who were wrecking the place, she had no leadership skills whatsoever and was letting them walk all over her.
In fact that makes me wonder if perhaps Paul was right to tell the Corinthian church that women couldn't be leaders there because he knew they were too soft to take firm control?
 

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Tell me why is it that the lady recognized as leading the feminist movement had ties to the cia, an intelligence agency ran by men?

You keep speaking as if feminism benefits the average women, yet there are clear biological and psychosocial differences in men and women. Women are not biologically or internally hardwired to be natural resource gatherers. They are moreso hardwired to be efficient at and fulfill the very tasks that feminism constantly shames. It is their natural biological imperative and women are most happy when they are placed in a setting where they are able to express it. I dont need to pull up any data demonstrating that when it comes to things that make women the most happy that child bearing and motherhood relating responsibilities rank amongst the top for the average woman, and being good wives to a good husband. Just the fact that a woman has the ability to pursue career doesnt indicate it leads to any real happiness and I would wager it doesnt and does the exact opposite in actuality, because most women are not career driven and the careers they are most satisfied with are ones where that give them an outlet to express variations of their maternal and nurturing design. It certainly isnt office work or most of the jobs or careers that women find themselves in. If anything feminism adds a pressure in the life of most women to seek or excel in a career they would otherwise have no ambition to, because they are constantly bombarded with talk of high status career women as if its an end to a means of fulfillment as a standard. Then they measure themselves to these sort of protoype women and are overcome with feelings of shame and failure. Women are not biologically hardwired to acquire resources. You can deny it and fight it, but men are and when a woman has to do these things she is being put into a place where she is forced to enter into her masculine which is alien and unnatural for her. However as a self professed feminist you would believe in the feminist version of history that paints the notion that women existed under a cruel and tyrannical patriarchy dominated by men. What a sad history to believe in and an even dangerous version of history to teach... Women are not hardwired to be independent.
I dont consider hardly any of what passes for feminism today as actual female empowerment... and that fact is highlited by the racist CIA asset Gloria Steinem and all the others like her. Highlighted by the perverse excuses, talk/walkbacks and outright lies in defense of the openly racist, eugenicist origins (and current function) of Planned Parenthood.

I support strong, assertive females who handle their biz without a "mandate of empowerment" foisted on them by a false, racist ideology which is agenda driven by TPTB. Females who dont wait to be told when and how to "empower" themselves... You tell me who you want for back up... 3rd wave feminists... or the Dangerous Queen...
 

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Haven’t met any. Most actual man hating women become lesbians.
In my experience... many lesbians aint actually true lesbians. And I know a number of (usually ultra-miserable, usually ultra-"liberal") couples like that. Community advocacy will bring a person into contact w/some strange situations!
 

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In my experience... many lesbians aint actually true lesbians. And I know a number of (usually ultra-miserable, usually ultra-"liberal") couples like that. Community advocacy will bring a person into contact w/some strange situations!
If you actually hated men you wouldn’t be able to lay next to one every night. People are miserable for a million different reasons. Marriages are miserable for a million different reasons - but they all start with love (can’t love and hate at same time but it can turn into it and then you have to ask why)
 

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If you actually hated men you wouldn’t be able to lay next to one every night. People are miserable for a million different reasons. Marriages are miserable for a million different reasons - but they all start with love (can’t love and hate at same time but it can turn into it and then you have to ask why)
Perhaps you wouldnt be able to. But every night, unfortunately, there are millions of couples (of all types) who have this problem... the small subsect of society we are discussing is no different.
 

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Nothing wrong with women being tough cookies so long as they stay in touch with their feminine side..:)
For example there was a TV docu about some high-flying business executives (including women) who went on a tough sailing trip, and one of the women who I admired was asked how she felt being cold wet and tired, and she said "I hate it, but when my watch is over I just throw myself in my bunk and have a good cry and then I'm fine again"..:)
 
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Hi costume historian here. I have two degrees to prove it.

So you think fashion were modest pre feminism during men's "guidence" or more comment know as surpression.

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Meet the late 18th century fashions of Europe and America, observe the low bust line, notable for the use of nipple reveal

Maybe this was a one off? You would be wrong.
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Meet Pauline Bonaparte sporting post french Revolution fashions. Regency fashions were known for their light often sheer material that emphasised the bust. Known for their tendency to reveal a ladies attributes.

Perhaps we can step back a little farther. To the 17th century.

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Restoration fashions in charles II court were very much about free the nipple.

Or maybe to the medieval era for some sweet boob action
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And don't get me started on the Roman and Grecian habit of public nudity or lack of dress.
Every pic you showed shows a fully covered woman who lets down her top to reveal her breasts. Hardly a comparison with woman today showing their breasts, ass, legs, thighs etc...
 

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Every pic you showed shows a fully covered woman who lets down her top to reveal her breasts. Hardly a comparison with woman today showing their breasts, ass, legs, thighs etc...
True, but by the standards of the day, some of those fashions were considered straight scandalous...
 
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I think we all have boundaries depending on beliefs.
I see no problem with women wanting to go in the work force, not wanting to be a mom and all that.

We are not to judge what others do. Why people like to control what others do? Is it an ego/power trip. Survival of the fittest, instinct?

We’re a civilized species now. I may not agree with some things like transgender and the like. But if they are not harming anyone, and they are happy. That’s enough for me.

I control what I can. I insure the happiness, safety, health of my family. My wife and kids come first. My wife has a career in coding. Which is fine by me. We both worked. She has always had the luxury of working from home at times, vacation time, pto. So she wound up as an almost bread winner type of role. Which is fine by me. I don’t feel threatened at all.

I went to school and wanted to be a strength and conditioning coach for a team. I fell in love with auto detailing which isn’t the most monetary career unless you can market.

Regardless we’re happy. I don’t hold her back from career moves. I’m happy right now being a house husband. Maybe because it’s new to me. But it’s enriching. I don’t feel insecure or less masculine for doing house chores
Once they allowed women into the workforce (which lowered wages for everyone) that made it to where both parties had to work to cover everything. So it’s not so much about that but the bigger picture that feminism is teaching. Which is luciferianism. That women should do and be whatever it is they want to do and be.
 
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I didnt see any advocation for "do what thou wilt".... I read Maes post as advocating for females to have access to education and employment. If you are going to try and convince us that God almighty created women so that they could be ignorant and lazy... lets just say thats going to be one tough row to hoe...
Yea feminism is all about do what thou wilt. It’s the literal shedding of gender roles so that women can be whatever it is that comes to mind. If you’re saying that that’s not in his post then I’d respectfully disagree as the “let the woman work, go to school, etc...” could definitely be taken that way.

I know it sounds harsh but reality is the woman is here to be a HELPER TO THE MAN. To compliment him. And not just any man but the good man who
himself is taking care of his own responsibilities. But when you factor in education and employment, they have now turned from complimenting men to trying to compete with men. And a relationship that compliments each other > a relationship that competes with each other
 
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True, but by the standards of the day, some of those fashions were considered straight scandalous...
I don’t think they viewed breasts in the same way we do today. Thats just a guess though. But even if they did, do we have anything to show that women in general were walking around fully covered except for their breasts? And how were women dressing in the 60s? 20s? How about the 1800s? Seems like the style of dress from these periods illustrates how women took their clothes of when they were given “liberation”. So now we have to go back 3 centuries and pull up people who are essentially wearing costumes even though even with that they are scantily clad. They aren’t wearing tight clothing. They aren’t showing a lot of or even a comparable amount of skin as women today do.How does my point not still stand?
 
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