Feminist Lies That Are Making Women Miserable

Maes17

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No, I reject new world order psychology and their supposed studies on humans and believe they serve as propaganda more than they do actual studies. I believe that both men and women are first and foremost driven by tendencies inherent within their biology and design. I believe that much of the mental health problems arise simply, because the social engineering conflicts with that which already inherent with our natural design. Its like your conscience and design want you to go in one direction while the programming is pushing you towards another...
Then that would be an individual pursuit to challenge this concept. Some people are happy living within social structure. Some people are free spirit and seek more than the physica senses provided.

Your question will yield different answers based on the individual asking.

Unless you can go out and ask and conduct a study and organize the responses you get. You would get a better understanding
 

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Then that would be an individual pursuit to challenge this concept. Some people are happy living within social structure. Some people are free spirit and seek more than the physica senses provided.

Your question will yield different answers based on the individual asking.

Unless you can go out and ask and conduct a study and organize the responses you get. You would get a better understanding
I think the statistics indicating mental health crisis speak for themselves though and its like i said it begins with the current construct of the family unit.
 
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If a woman want to go to school, work, etc. Let her.
That “do whatever you want” ideology is luciferianism though. Women aren’t supposed to be doing whatever they want in societies. They are supposed to have boundaries. Take it like this. Look at how women dressed when they were under mans guidance and look at it now that they’ve been “liberated”. Feminism came around and they literally took their clothes off. And I know it wasn’t every woman but anyone can look at society and see that’s what happened.

And men should have stood up to it long ago but they put up with it. But as time goes on their wising up to the game that society has them playing when it comes to their manhood. Because feminism is an attack on femininity AND masculinity...
 
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Women were already working, but the question is what was society's and even women's views of themselves and working and family life back then as opposed to what it is now post feminism?
You know there's an easy way to find out how women felt with the situation they were in pre feminism, they feelings of the status quo, their role in society. It's pretty simple really, it's staring you right in the face, it's a little word we have all been using

FEMINISM

If women were happy with the status quo, the jobs they hand, the rights they were afforded, then feminism would not exist at all
 
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That “do whatever you want” ideology is luciferianism though. Women aren’t supposed to be doing whatever they want in societies. They are supposed to have boundaries. Take it like this. Look at how women dressed when they were under mans guidance and look at it now that they’ve been “liberated”. Feminism came around and they literally took their clothes off. And I know it wasn’t every woman but anyone can look at society and see that’s what happened.

And men should have stood up to it long ago but they put up with it. But as time goes on their wising up to the game that society has them playing when it comes to their manhood. Because feminism is an attack on femininity AND masculinity...
Hi costume historian here. I have two degrees to prove it.

So you think fashion were modest pre feminism during men's "guidence" or more comment know as surpression.

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Meet the late 18th century fashions of Europe and America, observe the low bust line, notable for the use of nipple reveal

Maybe this was a one off? You would be wrong.
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Meet Pauline Bonaparte sporting post french Revolution fashions. Regency fashions were known for their light often sheer material that emphasised the bust. Known for their tendency to reveal a ladies attributes.

Perhaps we can step back a little farther. To the 17th century.

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Restoration fashions in charles II court were very much about free the nipple.

Or maybe to the medieval era for some sweet boob action
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And don't get me started on the Roman and Grecian habit of public nudity or lack of dress.
 
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I think the statistics indicating mental health crisis speak for themselves though and its like i said it begins with the current construct of the family unit.
There is no mental health crisis, it's just we now understand mental health more, we don't treat mental health like a taboo as we did before, so people are open about their struggles and get help.

No bodies hidden away in assyljms anymore, men aren't shot for cowardice anymore, instead we treat them for PTSD. We don't condemn women with hysteria, we treat complex mental issues from basic depression to post natal. We don't see depression or suicide as a weakness, people aren't shunned from families for being odd or mental, instead they are offered support.

What we are seeing is not a rise in mental health but an acknowledgement, a realisation that mental health is like all health. People aren't condemned for having a cold or cancer, they get treatment. Same for mental illness
 

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That “do whatever you want” ideology is luciferianism though. Women aren’t supposed to be doing whatever they want in societies. They are supposed to have boundaries. Take it like this. Look at how women dressed when they were under mans guidance and look at it now that they’ve been “liberated”. Feminism came around and they literally took their clothes off. And I know it wasn’t every woman but anyone can look at society and see that’s what happened.

And men should have stood up to it long ago but they put up with it. But as time goes on their wising up to the game that society has them playing when it comes to their manhood. Because feminism is an attack on femininity AND masculinity...
I think we all have boundaries depending on beliefs.
I see no problem with women wanting to go in the work force, not wanting to be a mom and all that.

We are not to judge what others do. Why people like to control what others do? Is it an ego/power trip. Survival of the fittest, instinct?

We’re a civilized species now. I may not agree with some things like transgender and the like. But if they are not harming anyone, and they are happy. That’s enough for me.

I control what I can. I insure the happiness, safety, health of my family. My wife and kids come first. My wife has a career in coding. Which is fine by me. We both worked. She has always had the luxury of working from home at times, vacation time, pto. So she wound up as an almost bread winner type of role. Which is fine by me. I don’t feel threatened at all.

I went to school and wanted to be a strength and conditioning coach for a team. I fell in love with auto detailing which isn’t the most monetary career unless you can market.

Regardless we’re happy. I don’t hold her back from career moves. I’m happy right now being a house husband. Maybe because it’s new to me. But it’s enriching. I don’t feel insecure or less masculine for doing house chores
 

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You know there's an easy way to find out how women felt with the situation they were in pre feminism, they feelings of the status quo, their role in society. It's pretty simple really, it's staring you right in the face, it's a little word we have all been using

FEMINISM

If women were happy with the status quo, the jobs they hand, the rights they were afforded, then feminism would not exist at all
Tell me why is it that the lady recognized as leading the feminist movement had ties to the cia, an intelligence agency ran by men?

You keep speaking as if feminism benefits the average women, yet there are clear biological and psychosocial differences in men and women. Women are not biologically or internally hardwired to be natural resource gatherers. They are moreso hardwired to be efficient at and fulfill the very tasks that feminism constantly shames. It is their natural biological imperative and women are most happy when they are placed in a setting where they are able to express it. I dont need to pull up any data demonstrating that when it comes to things that make women the most happy that child bearing and motherhood relating responsibilities rank amongst the top for the average woman, and being good wives to a good husband. Just the fact that a woman has the ability to pursue career doesnt indicate it leads to any real happiness and I would wager it doesnt and does the exact opposite in actuality, because most women are not career driven and the careers they are most satisfied with are ones where that give them an outlet to express variations of their maternal and nurturing design. It certainly isnt office work or most of the jobs or careers that women find themselves in. If anything feminism adds a pressure in the life of most women to seek or excel in a career they would otherwise have no ambition to, because they are constantly bombarded with talk of high status career women as if its an end to a means of fulfillment as a standard. Then they measure themselves to these sort of protoype women and are overcome with feelings of shame and failure. Women are not biologically hardwired to acquire resources. You can deny it and fight it, but men are and when a woman has to do these things she is being put into a place where she is forced to enter into her masculine which is alien and unnatural for her. However as a self professed feminist you would believe in the feminist version of history that paints the notion that women existed under a cruel and tyrannical patriarchy dominated by men. What a sad history to believe in and an even dangerous version of history to teach... Women are not hardwired to be independent.
 
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There is no mental health crisis, it's just we now understand mental health more, we don't treat mental health like a taboo as we did before, so people are open about their struggles and get help.

No bodies hidden away in assyljms anymore, men aren't shot for cowardice anymore, instead we treat them for PTSD. We don't condemn women with hysteria, we treat complex mental issues from basic depression to post natal. We don't see depression or suicide as a weakness, people aren't shunned from families for being odd or mental, instead they are offered support.

What we are seeing is not a rise in mental health but an acknowledgement, a realisation that mental health is like all health. People aren't condemned for having a cold or cancer, they get treatment. Same for mental illness
I disagree and dont think that society is as emotionally stable and mentally healthy as it was say 30 or even 20 years ago. America, at least..... I keep posing the question how much of that is affected in adolescence and growing up as a kid with the way society is shaped today. Children need fathers and mothers. Feminism reshaped how women think, it it changed the dynamic of relationships, it changed the family, it affected whether or not children had one or two parents in many cases and what was taught to children. It effects society, it effects mental health...
 

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I am not sure why I’m bothering...

Even ancient history women worked. Women were the gatherers yet you sit here and say it’s not in our nature to gather? That was literally our very first role in society. To gather.

As far as kids growing up with only one parent - that was also common since the beginning of time based simply on how many people died young. Women died in childbirth, men in war, both from diseases we’ve either eradicated or are easily cured now. You are living in fantasy land.
 

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I am not sure why I’m bothering...

Even ancient history women worked. Women were the gatherers yet you sit here and say it’s not in our nature to gather? That was literally our very first role in society. To gather.

As far as kids growing up with only one parent - that was also common since the beginning of time based simply on how many people died young. Women died in childbirth, men in war, both from diseases we’ve either eradicated or are easily cured now. You are living in fantasy land.
I have never not acknowledged a point and time where women didnt have tasks or duties or work in a total sense so I am not sure where you got that idea, but no I do not believe that women are hardwired like and in the same proficiency that men are to acquire resources for survival. They are hardwired to first seek out an external source that provides them such things such as protection and provision.

Men can do things women can and vice versa, but does that mean they are designed in such a way? Are men more efficient at some things than women? Yes... Are women more proficient than men in some things? Yes... The problem is that feminist social engineering suggests to women otherwise. This is why I believe it hurts most women by whitewashing who and what they are on level of design. Women arent aware of what makes them tick and that they first and foremost need an outlet to express these propensities(maternal and nurturing in nature) dictated by biology in order to appease and fulfill the part of them was designed to do such things, the part that feminism would seek to suppress... Their contentment stems primarily from these things and everything else is secondary, studies back that up...

You can nitpick and even debate some of my points, but I would contend that you are the one living in a fantasy land if you think feminism helps women in the way you think it does. I have offered more than enough valid points to contend otherwise and there is more than enough data linking feminism to family and societal problems that create dissatisfaction in the lives of both women in men. You can choose to live with your head in the sand though if your feminist pride is more valuable to you tho.
 

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Hi costume historian here. I have two degrees to prove it.

So you think fashion were modest pre feminism during men's "guidence" or more comment know as surpression.

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Meet the late 18th century fashions of Europe and America, observe the low bust line, notable for the use of nipple reveal

Maybe this was a one off? You would be wrong.
View attachment 48674
Meet Pauline Bonaparte sporting post french Revolution fashions. Regency fashions were known for their light often sheer material that emphasised the bust. Known for their tendency to reveal a ladies attributes.

Perhaps we can step back a little farther. To the 17th century.

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Restoration fashions in charles II court were very much about free the nipple.

Or maybe to the medieval era for some sweet boob action
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And don't get me started on the Roman and Grecian habit of public nudity or lack of dress.
They need to bring these fashions back. The feminization of modern feminists would be a positive thing for increasing the amount of women in society.

Imho, fewer angry females will provide more women. Society wants (needs) women.

EDIT: Added “(needs)”
 
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..what does it matter if I’m a feminist? I’m also a woman. One takes precedent over the other. Why is it always MEN making the majority of these complaints?..
Depends what you mean exactly by 'feminist' as I think there are different sorts?
For example at one end of the scale are hardboiled man-hating feminists.
 

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Depends what you mean exactly by 'feminist' as I think there are different sorts?
For example at one end of the scale are hardboiled man-hating feminists.
Do man hating feminists marry men? No they don’t. So why even say that
 

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Depends what you mean exactly by 'feminist' as I think there are different sorts?
For example at one end of the scale are hardboiled man-hating feminists.
What do you see at the other end of the scale?
 

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That “do whatever you want” ideology is luciferianism though. Women aren’t supposed to be doing whatever they want in societies. They are supposed to have boundaries. Take it like this. Look at how women dressed when they were under mans guidance and look at it now that they’ve been “liberated”. Feminism came around and they literally took their clothes off. And I know it wasn’t every woman but anyone can look at society and see that’s what happened.

And men should have stood up to it long ago but they put up with it. But as time goes on their wising up to the game that society has them playing when it comes to their manhood. Because feminism is an attack on femininity AND masculinity...
I didnt see any advocation for "do what thou wilt".... I read Maes post as advocating for females to have access to education and employment. If you are going to try and convince us that God almighty created women so that they could be ignorant and lazy... lets just say thats going to be one tough row to hoe...
 

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Hi costume historian here. I have two degrees to prove it.

So you think fashion were modest pre feminism during men's "guidence" or more comment know as surpression.

View attachment 48673
View attachment 48675
Meet the late 18th century fashions of Europe and America, observe the low bust line, notable for the use of nipple reveal

Maybe this was a one off? You would be wrong.
View attachment 48674
Meet Pauline Bonaparte sporting post french Revolution fashions. Regency fashions were known for their light often sheer material that emphasised the bust. Known for their tendency to reveal a ladies attributes.

Perhaps we can step back a little farther. To the 17th century.

View attachment 48676

Restoration fashions in charles II court were very much about free the nipple.

Or maybe to the medieval era for some sweet boob action
View attachment 48677
And don't get me started on the Roman and Grecian habit of public nudity or lack of dress.
I thought the nipple acccess was for feeding babies. Since most people love breasts and nipples, it also was also perhaps a bit of a ribald fashion choice, but feeding the child was my understanding for the basis of those early fashionistas...
 
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