The American “Coup d’etat”

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Hey I mean this in a quite sincere manner but I would like to pose two questions to you. 1. Do you believe in a deep state? 2. What is the big goal assuming there is, in fact, a deep state? I assure you I am not planning some elaborate response to show off my nonexistent wits haha, I'm actually genuinely curious if you think there is a big game afoot above conventional party lines. If this seems a shady question, or entrapment is suspected, feel free to say as much :) I am genuinely curious though.
Hey I mean this in a quite sincere manner but I would like to pose two questions to you. 1. Do you believe in a deep state? 2. What is the big goal assuming there is, in fact, a deep state? I assure you I am not planning some elaborate response to show off my nonexistent wits haha, I'm actually genuinely curious if you think there is a big game afoot above conventional party lines. If this seems a shady question, or entrapment is suspected, feel free to say as much :) I am genuinely curious though.
Yes there is a deep state, but its not the Fox News version given to you by their political operatives.

To them the deep state is anybody who opposes Trump, and that is a ridiculous notion, because Trump has many deep state backers from Adelson, to Mercer, to Rothschild, to the Russian/Jewish mob, to the Council for National Policy, Heritage Foundation etc. Koch Brothers, joint special operations command JSOC all arms of the deep state.

Confusion comes when CERTAIN elements of the deep state, at least on a surface level, oppose Trump. But to say they are UNITED against him is patently false. Trump is a swamp creature
Hes just a different swamp creature than the usual.

The agenda of the deep state is united on many fronts.

Banking, military, police state, Corporate control, although they may differ on levels, however on other fronts they oppose each other.

Its just like different mafia families all trying to make money and use their power and influence. There will always be conflict and disagreements among criminal elites.
 
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Yes there is a deep state, but its not the Fox News version given to you by their political operatives.

To them the deep state is anybody who opposes Trump, and that is a ridicu2lous notion, because Trump has many deep state backers from Adelson, to Mercer, to Rothschild, to the Russian/Jewish mob, to the Council for National Policy, Heritage Foundation etc. Koch Brothers, joint special operations command JSOC all arms of the deep state.

Confusion comes when CERTAIN elements of the deep state, at least on a surface level, oppose Trump. But to say they are UNITED against him is patently false. Trump is a swamp creature
Hes just a different swamp creature than the usual.

The agenda of the deep state is united onany fronts.

Banking, military, police state, Corporate control, although they may differ on levels, however on other fronts they oppose each other.
Thank you for your reply :) I'm not trying to be mean, but what in particular do you think that ever ominous "they" want to do? I'm going to be completely honest here and admit I suspect world powers (that "they" I referred to lol) are trying like hell to erect the abominable government of the Antichrist, but they may not all be aware of that. I also am pretty sure this would fall outside of conventional party lines. What big goal would you suspect the deep state of having in mind?
 
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Yes there is a deep state, but its not the Fox News version given to you by their political operatives.

To them the deep state is anybody who opposes Trump, and that is a ridiculous notion, because Trump has many deep state backers from Adelson, to Mercer, to Rothschild, to the Russian/Jewish mob, to the Council for National Policy, Heritage Foundation etc. Koch Brothers, joint special operations command JSOC all arms of the deep state.
The Koch brothers are outspoken never-Trumpers.
 
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Thank you for your reply :) I'm not trying to be mean, but what in particular do you think that ever ominous "they" want to do? I'm going to be completely honest here and admit I suspect world powers (that "they" I referred to lol) are trying like hell to erect the abominable government of the Antichrist, but they may not all be aware of that. I also am pretty sure this would fall outside of conventional party lines. What big goal would you suspect the deep state of having in mind?
Yeah I would say ultimately there is a spiritual agenda, as Satan ultimately controls the whole show.

The world government already exists by proxy. The world powers and international corporate interests already run a defacto world government, and the majority of the world can do nothing to oppose their will.
 
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The Koch brothers are outspoken never-Trumpers.
That's on a surface level.

Below the surface you'd have to ask why their money is so intertwined with the Trump agenda. And I'm not talking about direct contributions.

Look at Project Veritas for example which has done nothing but push pro-Trump propaganda.

It is funded by Donors Trust which is Koch operation. Theres plenty of other examples. The Trump and Koch networks are intertwined.
 
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Trumps case is a joke.

““The city of Detroit probably had more voters than it had citizens,” Giuliani said. “I’m exaggerating a bit, but all you have to do is look at statistical data and you can see that the fraud was rampant and out of control.”



Newsmax CEO Suggests Airing Unconfirmed Voter Fraud Claims Is Good For Business


trumps team and the news media sources that support trumps claims are significantly worse than mainstream media in every way.
Hah, parrotting the internationally orchestrated media like a pro.

Might as well go work for them.



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Here's the interview. Watch it and see the deceitful ways of corporate media.


You know what they say: "don't read the news and you're uninformed, read it and you're misinformed."

Be ready to parrott the media when they try to spin the narrative that the actual coup d'état is against those who stole the election with millions of fraudulent votes.
 
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Yeah I would say ultimately there is a spiritual agenda, as Satan ultimately controls the whole show.

The world government already exists by proxy. The world powers and international corporate interests already run a defacto world government, and the majority of the world can do nothing to oppose their will.
I would have to agree with you here. I'm particularly unnerved by what will happen when they begin imposing their will, like when they quit pretending and start actually doing what they have been using media to talk about all these years. You know, like great reset and beyond lol. My username pretty much says it all on how "kind" I think they'll view me lol :) oh well, if they think I'll just hand my kids and soon to be wife over, whoever they send out here will REALLY not like the nasty surprise I have waiting :) it's crazy how subtle power really works isn't it? Like, we have to go to a conspiracy forum to discuss something so obvious as government and media trends?
 
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Did you read the actual lawsuit? Your wrong. They are trying to throw out EVERY mail in vote in the state at this point. Your argument applied to the first lawsuit. Not this one. And please don’t tell me about Pennsylvania law - I live here. You do not.
You live in PA and you can't even measure the proper temperature and admit Biden didn't stand a chance to win that state. Even I from across the Atlantic could see that.

And stop conflating absentee ballots with universal mail-in-voting. Everyone with half a brain understands the difference.
 
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It's already happening now. Some unnamed posters here will be proven wrong, will have been explained why there were wrong, will have been provided the information and evidence to perfectly understand why they were wrong, but will still clearly follow the narrative of the corrupt media rather than admit they have been wrong.

Mark my words.
 
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It's already happening now. Some unnamed posters here will be proven wrong, will have been explained why there were wrong, will have been provided the information and evidence to perfectly understand why they were wrong, but will still clearly follow the narrative of the corrupt media rather than admit they have been wrong.

Mark my words.

You are going to have to explain to us how Rudy Giuliani, who was literally the elites point man in NY during 911, the biggest ever LIE and deception in modern history, who oversaw the cover up, a guy long connected to the Russian/Jewish mob is suddenly the epitome of credibility, and why he should be trusted. Sorry I'll trust CNN over that crook. Easy decision too.
 

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Hah, parrotting the internationally orchestrated media like a pro.

Might as well go work for them.



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Here's the interview. Watch it and see the deceitful ways of corporate media.


You know what they say: "don't read the news and you're uninformed, read it and you're misinformed."

Be ready to parrott the media when they try to spin the narrative that the actual coup d'état is against those who stole the election with millions of fraudulent votes.
the article I posted included the video clip. I already watched it. I included the whole quote and did not clip only the part where he said he was exaggerating.

the problem with what you are saying is that I didn’t narrow anything to try to create a spin. I posted a quote where Giuliani clearly is still claiming fraud while admitting that the fraud cannot be defined by the claim of there being more votes than voters because he was exaggerating this.

therefore, the viral message when it is based on this claim, is a false claim by his own admission, but he is still claiming there is fraud in the video clip. This isn’t removed in order to spin something.

You could try to say that other sources still support this claim of more votes than voters, but Giuliani is trumps lawyer and these are just random people who are upset that trump is losing. If Giuliani admits this, than this is not a claim that has enough evidence to be proven in court. Do you understand this?

the problem with many of you is that you can’t seem to define boundaries when you are researching something. If something can’t be used in court by the lawyer working to defend trumps case regarding election fraud, than articles specific to the claim of there being more votes than voters are useless. Do you understand? Lol, I’m guessing you or somebody is still going to try to post something that you think provides evidence that this claim is still true even though Giuliani is providing a boundary with what he is saying here. This boundary will probably go right over your heads though.

this is another reason that trump sources are worse than msm. The researching techniques of the people who support trump fly over boundaries all the time that would serve to increase their credibility. While biased, msm still has to work within boundaries that the trump camp has basically thrown out altogether. That is the difference. When you listen to msm, you have to look out for bias, but you don’t have to look out for exceeding research boundaries the way you do with the alt right news media.

I know reading comprehension becomes a challenge when someone challenges your narrative, but don’t go making something up. I’m not trying to spin anything the way you are. I didn’t isolate anything about the exaggeration comment to try to create a false impression.

and the quote is from the horses mouth with video corroboration of Giuliani saying it in contest. It isnt translated from an interview and used to prove an argument within an article. As disappointing as this may be for you, it is the reality of the situation specific to the claim of there being more votes than voters.
 
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the article I posted included the video clip. I already watched it. I included the whole quote and did not clip only the part where he said he was exaggerating.

the problem with what you are saying is that I didn’t narrow anything to try to create a spin. I posted a quote where Giuliani clearly is still claiming fraud while admitting that the fraud cannot be defined by the claim of there being more votes than voters because he was exaggerating this.

therefore, the viral message when it is based on this claim, is a false claim by his own admission, but he is still claiming there is fraud in the video clip. This isn’t removed in order to spin something.

You could try to say that other sources still support this claim of more votes than voters, but Giuliani is trumps lawyer and these are just random people who are upset that trump is losing. If Giuliani admits this, than this is not a claim that has enough evidence to be proven in court. Do you understand this?

the problem with many of you is that you can’t seem to define boundaries when you are researching something. If something can’t be used in court by the lawyer working to defend trumps case regarding election fraud, than articles specific to the claim of there being more votes than voters are useless. Do you understand? Lol, I’m guessing you or somebody is still going to try to post something that you think provides evidence that this claim is still true even though Giuliani is providing a boundary with what he is saying here. This boundary will probably go right over your heads though.

this is another reason that trump sources are worse than msm. The researching techniques of the people who support trump fly over boundaries all the time that would serve to increase their credibility. While biased, msm still has to work within boundaries that the trump camp has basically thrown out altogether. That is the difference. When you listen to msm, you have to look out for bias, but you don’t have to look out for exceeding research boundaries the way you do with the alt right news media.

I know reading comprehension becomes a challenge when someone challenges your narrative, but don’t go making something up. I’m not trying to spin anything the way you are. I didn’t isolate anything about the exaggeration comment to try to create a false impression.

and the quote is from the horses mouth with video corroboration of Giuliani saying it in contest. It isnt translated from an interview and used to prove an argument within an article. As disappointing as this may be for you, it is the reality of the situation specific to the claim of there being more votes than voters.
lol Giuliani is calling trumps claim of more votes than voters an exaggeration. I’m not sure if trump is still the first person to make this claim or whether he is parroting one of his alt right media sources, but he posted the claim on Twitter on November 18 that Giuliani recently calls an exaggeration.


Trumps case is a joke. He is literally just making things up as he goes that his own lawyers can’t defend in court and his supporters are still out there believing and spreading information that can’t be proven in court as though it were special censored information.

lol
 

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If the votes were illegal according to PA’s constitution, whose fault is that? Is America a country of laws, or isn’t it?
How were the votes illegal? Mail in voting was never illegal previously. If trump had won Pennsylvania you can be damn sure they wouldn’t be claiming they were illegal at all.

You guys have seemingly adopted an “ends justify the means” way of business and I hope I’m not the first to tell you.. but that isnt the way principles work.
 

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You live in PA and you can't even measure the proper temperature and admit Biden didn't stand a chance to win that state. Even I from across the Atlantic could see that.

And stop conflating absentee ballots with universal mail-in-voting. Everyone with half a brain understands the difference.
I live in PA and there are just as many Biden signs as there are trump signs. I live in PA and am quite aware that everyone living here isn’t an ignorant red neck trump worshipper. I live in pa and am fully capable of recognizing we are way more diverse then the msm makes it out to be. I live in PA and am cognizant of the fact that Scranton already named a street after Biden.

I live in PA and there was no universal mail in voting dumbass. You had to request a mail in ballot and provide your social and drivers license to get one. Stop listening to trump news 24/7.
 

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I’m also going to say this - I think the lack of enthusiasm for Biden fooled a lot of you into thinking no one was going to vote for him. The lack of enthusiasm for Biden was very real, however, the passionate enthusiasm to vote trump out was very real as well. You didn’t see mobs of Biden supporters acting like they were worshipping a resurrected god or rock star because that was never the point. People who didn’t even like him voted for him because they absolutely could not tolerate the idea of one more day with trump and would have voted for a paper bag if it would have got rid of him.
 
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I’m also going to say this - I think the lack of enthusiasm for Biden fooled a lot of you into thinking no one was going to vote for him. The lack of enthusiasm for Biden was very real, however, the passionate enthusiasm to vote trump out was very real as well. You didn’t see mobs of Biden supporters acting like they were worshipping a resurrected god or rock star because that was never the point. People who didn’t even like him voted for him because they absolutely could not tolerate the idea of one more day with trump and would have voted for a paper bag if it would have got rid of him.
Absolutely, couldn't say it any better.

2020 was record voter turnout

Trump got more votes than he did in 2016.

But the real SILENT MAJORITY, was Americans who could not stand a compulsive liar, racist, and divider of the country, a tyrant, and a wannabe authoritarian, and frankly a clown to remain on office.

They were not voting FOR BIDEN the voted AGAINST TRUMP. The popular vote is like 6 million plus for Biden, or should I say against Trump.

Trumpets were never the majority, not now, and not in 2016.

2020 was a referendum on Trumpism, and Trumpism lost big time.

Their only hope was to claim fraud, that's why they've been talking "fruad" even going back to last election.

Lindsey Graham and other Republicans have stated, unless they change something drastically, Republicans will never win the presidency again, and they're right. In the last 30 years Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE, 2004 after they traumatized Americans with 911. That's literally what it takes for them to win. That's why they complain about immigration and "Illegal votes"

The number of backwards thinking white people is not enough anymore for Republicans to win the presidency.
 
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the article I posted included the video clip. I already watched it. I included the whole quote and did not clip only the part where he said he was exaggerating.

the problem with what you are saying is that I didn’t narrow anything to try to create a spin. I posted a quote where Giuliani clearly is still claiming fraud while admitting that the fraud cannot be defined by the claim of there being more votes than voters because he was exaggerating this.

therefore, the viral message when it is based on this claim, is a false claim by his own admission, but he is still claiming there is fraud in the video clip. This isn’t removed in order to spin something.

You could try to say that other sources still support this claim of more votes than voters, but Giuliani is trumps lawyer and these are just random people who are upset that trump is losing. If Giuliani admits this, than this is not a claim that has enough evidence to be proven in court. Do you understand this?

the problem with many of you is that you can’t seem to define boundaries when you are researching something. If something can’t be used in court by the lawyer working to defend trumps case regarding election fraud, than articles specific to the claim of there being more votes than voters are useless. Do you understand? Lol, I’m guessing you or somebody is still going to try to post something that you think provides evidence that this claim is still true even though Giuliani is providing a boundary with what he is saying here. This boundary will probably go right over your heads though.

this is another reason that trump sources are worse than msm. The researching techniques of the people who support trump fly over boundaries all the time that would serve to increase their credibility. While biased, msm still has to work within boundaries that the trump camp has basically thrown out altogether. That is the difference. When you listen to msm, you have to look out for bias, but you don’t have to look out for exceeding research boundaries the way you do with the alt right news media.

I know reading comprehension becomes a challenge when someone challenges your narrative, but don’t go making something up. I’m not trying to spin anything the way you are. I didn’t isolate anything about the exaggeration comment to try to create a false impression.

and the quote is from the horses mouth with video corroboration of Giuliani saying it in contest. It isnt translated from an interview and used to prove an argument within an article. As disappointing as this may be for you, it is the reality of the situation specific to the claim of there being more votes than voters.
You isolated a statement and took it out of a hyperbolic context and emphasized it in the exact same way corporate media did while ignoring every argument or indication that there was election fraud.

He's been consistent in stating that many precincts in Michigan have overvotes that go up to 300%, in some cases even 350+%. Overvote is more votes than registered voters. In some cases there were more votes than the entire population of the precinct, children included. That this overvote applies to several precincts in Detroit, but it doesn't apply for the entire city of Detroit, doesn't take away from the validity of the concerns. It shows the statement by Giuliani was maybe hyperbolic in nature (something he himself insinuated) and not something he stated in front of court, but on Lou Dobbs.

And, the overvote problem is not something that just sprung into existence this month. It already existed in 2016:

 

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How were the votes illegal? Mail in voting was never illegal previously. If trump had won Pennsylvania you can be damn sure they wouldn’t be claiming they were illegal at all.

You guys have seemingly adopted an “ends justify the means” way of business and I hope I’m not the first to tell you.. but that isnt the way principles work.
The constitution of PA allows limited mail in voting. The argument that Trump’s lawyers are making is that by allowing anyone to vote by mail the state constitution was violated. If you are concerned about something being unconstitutional, at least be consistent. It will be up to the court to decide if Trump’s lawyers are right. In the end, the law will prevail. Isn’t that what you want?
 
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