The American “Coup d’etat”

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Something's afoot. Team Trump is seizing control from American intelligence agencies (CIA mostly, it seems) by cutting out intermediary bureaucratic channels.

New Secretary of Defense Chris Miller:


Here too (starting 0:54), new Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Ezra Cohen-Watnick is saying special ops is put directly under control of the government, referencing JFK in the process.


Knowing the beast never goes down quietly, this is likely going to be a bumpy ride. When Trump stays in office, expect the colour revolution to intensify. The CIA, Sorosites, Democrats, RINO's and Mockingbird media won't go down without a fight.
 

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An actual coup would have to come from the people or some sort of outside agitation force. This is merely political posturing and infighting amongst the operators of the same machine.
 
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An actual coup would have to come from the people or some sort of outside agitation force. This is merely political posturing and infighting amongst the operators of the same machine.
What are you talking about? There are hard coups with the use of military force, whether foreign or domestic, and you have soft coups executed through subversion tactics, or as in the case of the Dems and the 2020 US elections, voter fraud.
 

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Trump is the only potential independent variable, why dont those suffering TDS lay off till we know for sure? We already know what the Biden/Harris puppets are about.... would it kill you guys to take a break with Trump and focus on the Great Reseters? Or is that not your concern?
 

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An actual coup would have to come from the people or some sort of outside agitation force. This is merely political posturing and infighting amongst the operators of the same machine.
Yeah, but who is on Trump’s side? Could you name them and identify their position of power? Please don’t say Russia, lol
 

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Why waste time talking about something that everyone is in agreement about? Biden/Harris = bad. I don’t see any point in rehashing over and over, personally. I’m more concerned with smart people being duped. I do have the Biden/Harris = bad convo with people who actually support them.
 

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Why waste time talking about something that everyone is in agreement about? Biden/Harris = bad. I don’t see any point in rehashing over and over, personally. I’m more concerned with smart people being duped. I do have the Biden/Harris = bad convo with people who actually support them.
Watch the video first. That was happening behind the scenes. Take a break from Trump for a sec.
 

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The “victim” in this article manufactures his heaters in China. Obviously the import tariffs from China will hurt him financially.

Article goes on to explain the import tariffs as the cause for the decline in domestic manufacturing while hyperlinking to a graph that shows the decline coincides with the COVID19 pandemic. Very dishonest.
Ok, let me dumb it down for you. Trump imposes tarries, companies in China and the USA who are effected by those tariffs jack up prices to cover the increased costs, those increased prices are passed down to small businesses in America who then pass it down to customers... except customers can’t afford the increased prices in the middle of a recession so American small business has to deal with decreased profit margins or less sales.

the cost of a hot water heater has doubled since March, the cost of a chimney liner is up 75%, the cost of fittings and pipe up, the cost of lumber doubled or tripled depending on specifics. ALL of my costs as an American small business owner have gone up significantly because of these tarrifs in some cases and Covid in others. My customers have less money. It is not a good combination.

meanwhile big business has been successfully able to lobby with their high priced lawyers to be EXEMPT and this isn’t even effecting them. The anti-globalist President is helping the global corporations you guys hate so much by bankrupting their competition (small business)
 

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Watch the video first. That was happening behind the scenes. Take a break from Trump for a sec.
I don’t watch video. Everyone knows that. I’m happy to read a recap or summary.

and stop interpreting my posts as about trump. They are about the well being of my fellow Americans.
 

justjess

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Something's afoot. Team Trump is seizing control from American intelligence agencies (CIA mostly, it seems) by cutting out intermediary bureaucratic channels.

New Secretary of Defense Chris Miller:


Here too (starting 0:54), new Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Ezra Cohen-Watnick is saying special ops is put directly under control of the government, referencing JFK in the process.


Knowing the beast never goes down quietly, this is likely going to be a bumpy ride. When Trump stays in office, expect the colour revolution to intensify. The CIA, Sorosites, Democrats, RINO's and Mockingbird media won't go down without a fight.
You know what’s going down? Trump is staging a coup. I’m sure your fine with that though, right?
 

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What are you talking about? There are hard coups with the use of military force, whether foreign or domestic, and you have soft coups executed through subversion tactics, or as in the case of the Dems and the 2020 US elections, voter fraud.
Republicans - voter suppression. What you are referring to as voter fraud in Pennsylvania was an attempt to counter the voter suppression tactics taken on by the republicans by crippling the mail service.
 
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Ok, let me dumb it down for you. Trump imposes tarries, companies in China and the USA who are effected by those tariffs jack up prices to cover the increased costs, those increased prices are passed down to small businesses in America who then pass it down to customers... except customers can’t afford the increased prices in the middle of a recession so American small business has to deal with decreased profit margins or less sales.

the cost of a hot water heater has doubled since March, the cost of a chimney liner is up 75%, the cost of fittings and pipe up, the cost of lumber doubled or tripled depending on specifics. ALL of my costs as an American small business owner have gone up significantly because of these tarrifs in some cases and Covid in others. My customers have less money. It is not a good combination.

meanwhile big business has been successfully able to lobby with their high priced lawyers to be EXEMPT and this isn’t even effecting them. The anti-globalist President is helping the global corporations you guys hate so much by bankrupting their competition (small business)
You'll have to dumb it down even more, Jess, cause all I'm hearing is the typical laissez-faire capitalist argument against economic protectionism. You're not a mouth-piece for laissez-faire capitalism, are you? Or will you appropriate anything just so you can bash Trump?

The whole point of these tariffs is to incentivise people to buy American. The prices go up if you buy Chinese.

What recession are you even talking about? The recession induced by lockdowns? By the end of 2019, middle class income rose by $6.000, the American average with $4.000. Your customers have less money during the COVID19 pandemic? No shit. You're just about as dishonest as the article using that misleading graph. "Because of these tariffs" in some cases. So what? You win some, you lose some. NOT implementing those tariffs would've meant American SMEs in the sector to continue to suffer as they have been for decades.
 
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You know what’s going down? Trump is staging a coup. I’m sure your fine with that though, right?
lol, the coup already happened. Evidence, even proof of the election fraud is rampant in this thread alone, which you not undeliberately chose to ignore.

Voter fraud in Pennsylvania, and Michigan, and Wisconsin, and Georgia, and Arizona, and Nevada, and Virginia, and New Mexico, and California, and who knows how many more.
 

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Honest question: why would someone campaigning on nationalism and America First write in loopholes and exclusions to continue benefitting from globalism in any way shape or form? Because from where I’m sitting that’s not a good look. And makes everything he says subject to being completely disregarded.
I guess my perspective comes less from a focus on Trump and more of an observation from my side of the pond...

Ever since ancient times we have had international trade and even private individuals and groups who profited from it. From Phoenicians to the Silk Road and the East India Company, people have been doing business with others internationally.

In Europe, post-war, we had the EEC - as an economic community it worked well, but as recent events have show, a push toward ever greater political union (the EU) and central governance is one people simply don’t want. I guess this second sentiment is the one labelled “populism”. Of course, those who control the language around a debate often control the thoughts people have about it.

Set against populism is globalism. For better or worse, the rough cut, sometimes crass nationalist agenda of Trump has been set up against the silver-tongued, inclusive and reasonable voice of the NWO expressed by players like Obama. The former has come to represent the status quo of self interested, patriotic nation states, the latter a call for global unity, a turning away from discrimination and for a new way of doing things.

It is hard for me to separate out my faith from my understanding of politics, but I have to observe that at Babel, God confused the languages to separate out the people into nations. In doing so, evil was contained. The aspiration of man expressed by Nimrod was to come together and be of one voice and one purpose. In a sense, a whole world “good without God”. I can’t help but see these ancient dramas playing out in the modern world. I cannot join the side of those whose anthem might be “imagine” by John Lennon.

Rejecting NWO globalism doesn’t make me a de-facto Trump supporter, I guess sometimes my sense of humour makes me smile at some of the things he says while other things he has said appear like he walks in with hobnail boots where angels fear to tread.

One thing though - I believe in free, sovereign nations and the right for their own self-determination under international law. I also believe in free enterprise, private ownership of property, the right to freedom of speech, thought and expression. I also believe in freedom of religion and the right for people to hear the spectrum of faiths and choose for themselves.
 
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