George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

justjess

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The reality is that people do not feel the current laws can maintain society in balance. If tens of thousands had their businesses destroyed and the law did nothing to protect them, there needs to be new laws so that order, justice can be maintained. People are going to want that and new laws should address that. You cant have a society where people can destroy the livelihoods of others for revenge when those people did nothing wrong and have nothing to do with some cop (probably) defending himself or the media just showing a guy overdosing on fentanyl like George and telling people it was murder
You can’t claim to have an issue with lawlessness while promoting lawlessness as a solution to it. It doesn’t work like that. Either stand by the law system we have, argue to improve it, or argue for vigilante justice.. I’m going with number 2. Number three is pretty mutually exclusive. It won’t solve anything it will just create more zimmermans.
 
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You can’t claim to have an issue with lawlessness while promoting lawlessness as a solution to it. It doesn’t work like that. Either stand by the law system we have, argue to improve it, or argue for vigilante justice.. I’m going with number 2. Number three is pretty mutually exclusive. It won’t solve anything it will just create more zimmermans.
Fair, but these people can’t continue to destroy and then get upset that there are consequences. Making new laws to protect people from mobs is a pretty natural and logical continuation when lawlessness is abounding.
 

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Fair, but these people can’t continue to destroy and then get upset that there are consequences. Making new laws to protect people from mobs is a pretty natural and logical continuation when lawlessness is abounding.
Making new laws maybe. Making new laws that allow a get out of jail free card for murdering someone who didn’t commit a capital crime... that’s something different. I doubt this will pass.
 

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1. What part of the Biblical response was nonsense, in particular Romans 13:1-5? Please explain.

2. Why are you equating killing with murdering when these are two different things? As someone who claims to work with law enforcement, how can you not know or understand this?

Murder: the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
Kill: cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living thing).

The commandment is 'You shall not murder'. Murder is a sin and against God's law as well as civil law. Killing in self-defense is not murder, it's not against the law, and it's not a sin. Depending on state laws, killing while defending property or during a robbery is not against the law, either. Makes sense because the victim has no idea what the intentions of the criminal are. Could be a robbery, could be murder.

It goes right back to the Bible: Obey the law and authorities - or face the consequences. That's reality. Your views about the Bible are very much wrong and confused. You were also completely wrong about the law not allowing for deadly force when protecting one's property. State laws differ, but many allow it.



lol... I didn't twist anything. This is also you when pushed to explain your earlier statement [#2,277]:

"Stop acting offended over people taking justice against violent criminals into their own hands while full heartedly supporting police executing death sentences over non violent summary offenses."

You are all for vigilante vengeance when it comes to your own.
Your entire response was nonsense. Thou shalt not kill. Not thou shalt not kill unless xyz. I read the Bible. God didn’t give us that power. There are plenty of religious ant capital punishment activists because of this.

Clearly Florida’s law didn’t allow it. If it did we wouldn’t be having this discussion because there would be no reason to write a new law. I don’t agree with laws that allow for killing to protect property. Just like I don’t agree that land votes or corporations are people. You conservatives believe a whole lot of things which require way too many mental gymnastics for me.

I absolutely did not say I’d kill someone if they stole from me. I specifically said if they killed my kid. You clutched you’re pearls about it... yet your okay with me killing someone for stealing my shoes? Gtfoh and grow a moral backbone and some consistency.

are you keeping files on posters now? Seems very chassidy like of you. Seems very manipulative, calculating, and premeditated as well. Excuse me while I go back to skipping over your posts, you aren’t worth the time.

in conclusion for anyone else reading: yes I’d kill someone if they hurt my kids. I am not ashamed to say that. No I don’t think anyone should steal, I also don’t think the punishment for doing so should be death - whether the death sentence is handed out by a cop, a court, or a vigilante citizen. Life > stuff.
 

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Only you would compare Proud Boys vs Antifa with Antifa/BLM vs random citizens. It’s not a good look.
That’s a fun spin. Not all anti trump protesters are Antifa/blm to start. And physically attacking someone who is not physically attacking you is not cool no matter what said group they supposedly belong to. If proud boys have a right to protest so does everyone else. Can’t just beat up people cuz you disagree with their positions... but of course you see no issue with that. As do the people liking your post.
 

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An old dude runs into a group of 10-20 people acting like he can fight them all. And some of you wonder why he gets laid out? LOL, please. Find someone else to put the "dress" of victimization on.

Exploiting the little children is just icing on the cake. How low can you clout chasers go?
 

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An old dude runs into a group of 10-20 people acting like he can fight them all. And some of you wonder why he gets laid out? LOL, please. Find someone else to put the "dress" of victimization on.

Exploiting the little children is just icing on the cake. How low can you clout chasers go?
People will do anything for 15 minutes of YouTube fame... they tend to get nice payouts for the trouble on go fund me :rolleyes:
 
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That’s a fun spin. Not all anti trump protesters are Antifa/blm to start. And physically attacking someone who is not physically attacking you is not cool no matter what said group they supposedly belong to. If proud boys have a right to protest so does everyone else. Can’t just beat up people cuz you disagree with their positions... but of course you see no issue with that. As do the people liking your post.
Proud Boys are not discreet about their specific targeting of Antifa. When you see them fighting in a political context, assume it's against Antifa. Just as when you see Antifa fighting, assume it's with MAGA folk.
 

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Proud Boys are not discreet about their specific targeting of Antifa. When you see them fighting in a political context, assume it's against Antifa. Just as when you see Antifa fighting, assume it's with MAGA folk.
So it is a ok for the proud boys to beat up antifa for no reason other than they disagree with their beliefs... but not okay for antifa to beat up MAGA for no reason other then they disagree with their beliefs?

do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

I’m also still waiting (it’s been MONTHS now) for the way that people are supposed to positively identify someone as antifa? Do they have it tattooed on their foreheads? Is it the black clothes? Is it presence around a liberal leaning event? How exactly are you all making accurate positive IDS of antifa members?
 
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So it is a ok for the proud boys to beat up antifa
There’s lots of reasons to beat up Antifa. In fact, a good beating is probably what they’ve missed during their upbringing.

Considering we’re talking about a group who popularised “punch a nazi” when everyone right of center-left is considered a nazi, I’m sure they’ll deem it fair game.

Speaking of ridiculous, every time you sound like “But do you condemn what Jesus did in the Temple to the money changers?! He literally broke their pigeon cages! Oh, you’re against private poverty now?! DO YOU CONDEMN JESUS?!!”

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There’s lots of reasons to beat up Antifa. In fact, a good beating is probably what they’ve missed during their upbringing.

Considering we’re talking about a group who popularised “punch a nazi” when everyone right of center-left is considered a nazi, I’m sure they’ll deem it fair game.

Speaking of ridiculous, every time you sound like “But do you condemn what Jesus did in the Temple to the money changers?! He literally broke their pigeon cages! Oh, you’re against private poverty now?! DO YOU CONDEMN JESUS?!!”

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How do I sound like that when I’ve never said anything resembling that? You are advocating beating people up because they disagree with you. You have yet to illuminate me on how you actually identify someone as a member of antifa to begin with. Saving this for a souvenir.

will say your mask has definately come off completely the last year. Otherwise you’ve just been so completely brainwashed that you’ve turned into a horrible person. I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it’s the latter, but the more jaded part of me is pretty sure it’s the former.

edit: assault is illegal. It’s literally the definition of lawlessness. You are promoting this while claiming to be for law and order. Can’t make this shit up.
 
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How do I sound like that when I’ve never said anything resembling that? You are advocating beating people up because they disagree with you. You have yet to illuminate me on how you actually identify someone as a member of antifa to begin with. Saving this for a souvenir.

will say your mask has definately come off completely the last year. Otherwise you’ve just been so completely brainwashed that you’ve turned into a horrible person. I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it’s the latter, but the more jaded part of me is pretty sure it’s the former.

edit: assault is illegal. It’s literally the definition of lawlessness. You are promoting this while claiming to be for law and order. Can’t make this shit up.
You’re exhausting. I’d go to prison too if I was your man.
 
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umm its clear from the video that the guy holding the yellow "dont tread on me" flag attacked the woman first.

She was simply following him and yelling at him, which is her right to do. He then shoved her and used his flag to hit a guy in the head.

Then they attacked him.

You clowns spin this to "family attacked by Antifa"

You guys are so full of shit.
 
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