George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

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Do you have some evidence this guy is a white supremacist? I’ve never heard of him, so I was curious and googled his name and found nothing. You must have seen some evidence backing up the accusation.
I provided the evidence earlier of white supremacist involvement. You ignored it

seems a bunch of right wingers have been arrested in Minneapolis instigating the riots.

white supremacist belonging to group "Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood" is "umbrella man" smashing windows, with fellow white nationalist members at the scene

https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-floyd-rioting/571932272/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html

another man Ivan Hunter (Boogaloo Boys) drove from Texas to Minneapolis and shot AK47 into police station then lit it on fire.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2020/10/10124451/ivan-hunter-boogaloo-bois-arrest-minneapolis-shooting

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boogaloo-bois-member-charged-riot-ivan-harrison-hunter-george-floyd-protests/


the picture of the guy Brandon Michael Wolfe who it was claimed is a white supremacist, I can find no evidence of that, so it appears that may have been fake news, however you still have 2 other white supremacists linked to starting riots, and shooting and burning the police precinct in Minneapolis alone.
 
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I provided the evidence earlier of white supremacist involvement. You ignored it

seems a bunch of right wingers have been arrested in Minneapolis instigating the riots.

white supremacist belonging to group "Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood" is "umbrella man" smashing windows, with fellow white nationalist members at the scene

https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-floyd-rioting/571932272/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html

another man Ivan Hunter (Boogaloo Boys) drove from Texas to Minneapolis and shot AK47 into police station then lit it on fire.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2020/10/10124451/ivan-hunter-boogaloo-bois-arrest-minneapolis-shooting

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boogaloo-bois-member-charged-riot-ivan-harrison-hunter-george-floyd-protests/


the picture of the guy Brandon Michael Wolfe who it was claimed is a white supremacist, I can find no evidence of that, so it appears that may have been fake news, however you still have 2 other white supremacists linked to starting riots, and shooting and burning the police precinct in Minneapolis alone.
Regardless of those 2, how many Antifa & BLM members have started riots and arson?
 
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You don’t even live here, though. Is your country as infested with bigoted hicks as the USA?

I was also once insulated and very naive to this. My grandfather was the only racist I had ever met in my life until I went out into the “real world” as a young adult. I understand you’re some sort of segregationist although you will always try to downplay/rationalize your stance, so maybe you’re not necessarily naive, just sympathetic.
So in order to participate in political macro-analysis one has to live in every single country simultaneously. I don't have to live in the US to understand what a sovereignist movement being painted as far-right xenophobic white supremacists really means. They've been doing this in Europe for decades. Antifa was already breaking windows and hitting "nazis" in France when the Front National had the momentum before they gained notoriety in the US. They are the Sorosite globalist proxies that are deployed whenever a nation's democratic expression tends to obstruct progression towards global centralisation of political, spiritual and financial control.

And I'm not a segregationist. I subscribe to the idea of ethnonationalism as the form of society most conducive to long-term stability and peace. That people cringe at the words ethnos and nationalism is merely a symptom of a decades old indoctrination program.
 
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And I'm not a segregationist. I subscribe to the idea of ethnonationalism as the form of society most conducive to long-term stability and peace. That people cringe at the words ethnos and nationalism is merely a symptom of a decades old indoctrination program.
How pitifully boring.
 

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The video you posted attached to the comment was of Texans shutting down highways with their trump train. The same trump train which was involved in altercations with the Biden campaign later in the day. I may be a lot of things thunder but a liar ain’t one of them. Maybe you missed the context or were unaware of what you were supporting at the time you posted it. I don’t know.
I can spot at least two lies in your post denying that you lie. The video in the tweet I posted doesn’t show highways being shut down (in fact, no video from Texas shows that), and video posted in this thread shows that the only altercation between Trump supporters and Biden supporters was the fault of the Biden people.

Here’s my post. I’m not sure why it previews a different post, but if you click on it, you can see for yourself what I said and what the post said.

 
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Regardless of those 2, how many Antifa & BLM members have started riots and arson?
Still a very very tiny fraction of the overall 25 million Americans who took part in the protests.

Fact however is that the narrative of "Antifa/BLM riots" has been shaped by lying media AS WELL AS WHITE SUPREMACISTS CAUGHT TRYING TO CARRY OUT FALSE FLAGS.

Shooting up and burning police stations
Killing cops

This gets lost in the fake narrative of "BLM riots"

The Trump regime is working hand in glove with elements of the media, elements of the police forces, and right wing terrorists to push this false narrative.
 
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Still a very very tiny fraction of the overall 25 million Americans who took part in the protests.

Fact however is that the narrative of "Antifa/BLM riots" has been shaped by lying media AS WELL AS WHITE SUPREMACISTS CAUGHT TRYING TO CARRY OUT FALSE FLAGS.

Shooting up and burning police stations
Killing cops

This gets lost in the fake narrative of "BLM riots"

The Trump regime is working hand in glove with elements of the media, elements of the police forces, and right wing terrorists to push this false narrative.
1 in 14 BLM demonstrations becoming violent isn’t a very very tiny fraction. It’s a sizeable minority, enough to be definitive.
2 “white supremacists“ in 26 million is a very very tiny fraction
 
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1 in 14 BLM demonstrations becoming violent isn’t a very very tiny fraction. It’s a sizeable minority, enough to be definitive.
2 “white supremacists“ in 26 million is a very very tiny fraction
Yes it is a tiny fraction.

1 in 14 protests became violent. Lets look at a few things

The statistics do not state WHO started the violence. In many cases it was THE POLICE. The study conducted actually states that the arrival of police INCREASED VIOLENT ACTS REPORTED.

1 in 14 protests having violence, still does not mean that THE MAJORITY of people IN THAT 1/14 protest weren't peaceful.

Do you have any statistics on how many people of the 25 million protesters have been arrested or charged ?

Keeping in mind that actual journalists simply doing their jobs HAVE BEEN ARRESTED and even

politicians engaged in protests HAVE BEEN ARRESTED

So even the statistics ratio of arrested to protesters which will be very miniscule will still be overstated given that plenty of people have been arrested FOR DOING NOTHING.
 
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Yes it is a tiny fraction.

1 in 14 protests became violent. Lets look at a few things

The statistics do not state WHO started the violence. In many cases it was THE POLICE. The study conducted actually states that the arrival of police INCREASED VIOLENT ACTS REPORTED.

1 in 14 protests having violence, still does not mean that THE MAJORITY of people IN THAT 1/14 protest weren't peaceful.

Do you have any statistics on how many people of the 25 million protesters have been arrested or charged ?

Keeping in mind that actual journalists simply doing their jobs HAVE BEEN ARRESTED and even

politicians engaged in protests HAVE BEEN ARRESTED

So even the statistics ratio of arrested to protesters which will be very miniscule will still be overstated given that plenty of people have been arrested FOR DOING NOTHING.
600+ riots. 1500 businesses destroyed in the first weekend. Tens of thousands since. 48 dead. The most costly destruction of property in us history. 1.2 billion in damages. Nobody to blame but the people that did it, sorry

Another “very very tiny fraction“ is the amount of unarmed black men killed by police. 9 last year total, out of thousands arrested. But 1 in 14 demonstrations becoming violent is not tiny. And it’s obvious “violent” isn’t talking about someone stubbing their toe. Hence billions of dollars in damages
 
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600+ riots. 1500 businesses destroyed in the first weekend. Tens of thousands since.48 dead. The most costly destruction of property in us history. 1.2 billion in damages. Nobody to blame but the people that did it, sorry

Another “very very tiny fraction“ is the amount of unarmed black men killed by police. 9 last year total, out of thousands arrested. But 1 in 14 demonstrations becoming violent is not tiny. And it’s obvious “violent” isn’t talking about someone stubbing their toe. Hence billions of dollars in damages
you keep throwing around statistics with no context

If you count for inflation the LA riots in 1992 were more costly than the entire national destruction caused during the BLM protests.

https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html

The cost is footed by the insurance companies, and not tax payers by the way.

If you want to look at what tax payers are actually paying for , how about the amounts they foot out to pay for settlements the cities have to make for police brutality cases.

from 2015 nearly a quarter billion paid out, just from the top 10 cities alone.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cost-of-police-misconduct-cases-soars-in-big-u-s-cities-1437013834

I think your anger is severely misguided.
 
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you keep throwing around statistics with no context

If you count for inflation the LA riots in 1992 were more costly than the entire national destruction caused during the BLM protests.

https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html

The cost is footed by the insurance companies, and not tax payers by the way.

If you want to look at what tax payers are actually paying for , how about the amounts they foot out to pay for settlements the cities have to make for police brutality cases.

from 2015 nearly a quarter billion paid out, just from the top 10 cities alone.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cost-of-police-misconduct-cases-soars-in-big-u-s-cities-1437013834

I think your anger is severely misguided.
You love to misdirect because you can’t look the facts in the face. Who can blame you, what you believe is not only reprehensible, it’s false, incorrect
 
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ineurance companies have a lot of ways to get out of paying for riots. Fact is most peoples businesses and livelihoods will just be gone due to these people. There isn’t a magic eraser for the consequences of their actions
 
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From Minneapolis Star Tribune

“A few blocks away, Ruhel Islam is bewildered by the technical language in the bids he’s received to remove the debris from his Indian restaurant, Gandhi Mahal. Most of the companies want more than $200,000 for the work.

“I think all of these people are trying to take advantage of immigrant people,” he says.

Islam decided to move forward on a $125,000 bid; insurance will cover just $50,000 of those costs.

“Our neighborhood looks like a war zone,” Islam said. “As a property owner, it is my moral responsibility to somehow get it done.”

The move will leave him with almost no money for rebuilding. Most of the money he got from his policy went to pay off his mortgage.”
 
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I think some have a tough time coming to terms with reality as it erodes the validity of their world view. To save face, instead of admitting their errors and abandoning their own delusions, it becomes more tempting to obfuscate the obvious and blur the lines between objective reality and their ideologically distorted interpretation of it, by trying to camouflage their biases with a false sense of neutrality.

I suppose it could work on some, however pitiful it seems to others, myself included.
 

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"This week, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis announced the drafting of a new piece of legislation that would expand the state’s Stand Your Ground law. He is calling the legislation an “anti-mob” bill and it seems specifically targeted at the Black lives Matter movement and the ongoing protests against police brutality that have swept across the United States in recent months."

It allows for vigilantes to justify their actions. It also allows for death to be the punishment for a property crime — and that is cruel and unusual punishment. We cannot live in a lawless society where taking a life is done so casually and recklessly.”

"The legislation also includes other measures that would give immunity to citizens who hurt or injure protesters who are blocking the road. The bill would make it a third-degree felony to block traffic and give immunity to drivers who kill or injure protesters that were blocking the road."
I really really hope you aren’t supporting that.
 

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So your fine with extra judicial death penalties for non capital crimes? Point one of what you agree with..: that’s what it boils down to.

I’m sorry... this is pretty unacceptable. This is bringing us back to the Wild West. The Wild West was the definition of lawlessness.
 

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When I hear of violent career criminals or terrorists being killed by the police or ordinary citizens I say "yippee!" because the world is a better place without the useless dregs..:)

"Ungodly...These men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed.." (Bible: 2 Peter 2:12)

 
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