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OwlMoon

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Lolll why are they in college anyway? I mean they aren't too old but why? I heard they are all studing business or something like that
They’re obviously not studying shit, it was to delay their military duty and like boti said a deal with the ministry of culture or education to get more students

(Look at the picture below first)
LOL.... The day that armies ALL over the world realize that BTS won't be there to comfort them in the darkness that will come like RM promised ( a.k.a the endtimes and anti-christ.. All that jazz) and realuze they have been played and manipulated is the day I sit back and watch the caos.. (But us christains might not even be here during tribulations cause of the rapture)

Armies go all their way, even neglecting school and exams just to stream and make BTS even more popuplar than they need to be. And the funny thing is that they are aware of their stupidity but they don't care... BTS living their "best" lifes (cause that's what army think they are doing) while their fans are wasting their enegry, time, and money on manipulative goats. And their papa goat, Bang PD is just taking their money.

Armies played by Bighit and BTS
Bighit and BTS played by the devil.

At the end of the day.. The devil is playing all of them... But what still bothers me is that I think they know that they have ended up in a bad situation and they know they were will end up but they don't care..
I just figured this out after I listened to the lyrics to Twice's new song "Can't stop me"
I agree 100%! I saw a video of an ARMY streaming Dynamite with 20 LAPTOPS :eek: This isn’t devotion it’s literally worshipping them! Just go on twitter and see that ARMYs are basically making threads about them daily, even if they’re just breathing. It’s actually scary that they’re aware but don’t care. Tragic
 
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Sorry, I don’t understand this sentence: you say attack or killing or terror ain’t Islamic.
Well...then... the Jew did all the killings ?

I also don’t understand your comparison with when white people kill, it’s an “attack”.
Yes, white people - it’s usually either a racial motived attack, or mentally deranged people who go into schools killing their teachers and colleagues. Which is not racially motivated.

defining "terror attack" is problematic due to its subjective interpretation, but in general it’s an attack against a country, when a foreigner, or a national citizen who adheres and convert to religion or ideologies against the ones of the country, attacks that country for political, ideological, racial etc reasons.

muslims don't allow freedom of religion, nor art. that's already against all western values. the common muslim doesn't consider the woman to be equal to a man, against our values, they see the western woman as even lower than the muslim woman and rapes often occur under the justification "she deserved it, she wasn't covered, or alone".

I know peaceful Muslims. i just bought myself a döner from my favorite turkish restaurant and talked a bit over the situation. no one is saying anything in support of the crimes committed, nor is anyone beheading muslims for the crimes committed by other peers.
But nothing from islam’s Ideologies are peaceful as long as Muslims see women less worthy, kill Christians in muslimic countries, kill and r*pe others out of spite and enjoying hurting non-Muslims.

What I wrote is the reality over issues with Islam. Other religions don’t have issues with equality between man and woman.
Nor is any other religion committing crimes like we’ve seen.
muslims don't believe in other religions than theirs. no problem. that's the definition of every religion, christians believe in their bible, jews in their teachings, catholics, etc.
the difference between islam and all other religions, is that no other religion has committed crimes against others like the islam. there is a high amount of fanaticism and a dangerous increase of radical islam going back to 70 years ago. after WWII. even during. hitler worked with muslims/ islam.
no other religion is exercising the death penalty or prison towards non-muslims. islam does so in Muslim countries.
islam considers itself as the only true religion which must be practiced all over the world.

it cannot be hidden anymore, the hundreds of crimes committed monthly by muslims in germany, sweden or france against non-muslims. I am not talking about beheadings or killings. simply hate. hate crimes. thousands of videos of propaganda calling for attacks against those who are not "believers" , who do not convert to islam.

i have heard that Qur'an is peaceful, i haven't read it, but there isn't one single person who claims otherwise around me. everyone talks about the peaceful message. but not islam as ideology.

europe is under islamic terror and I am not saying this due to the recent events in france or germany. we have thousands of muslim terrorists , or islamic terrorists, however you want to call it.
nobody is making single muslims responsible, but you cannot possible go around defending beheadings because of a stupid caricature. that's terrorist propaganda. supporting the killing. "it was justified because it mocked the "prophet" "
the problem that i see is fanatism towards your religion, which many take to the extreme, together with the desire of islam taking over the entire world.

one must be able to see the reality as it is, and acknowledge the problem with radical islam. i have posted links of muslims who have done so.

The fact that after Charlie Hebdo there were more protests in support of the killings, says a lot. same as now. it looks like there are much more fanatics and muslims engaging in terror propaganda than one thinks.

It seems to be ok to write about any crimes, but not those committed by the Islam. That’s not right.

I don’t think it helps to always write about how peaceful Islam is, when everything we see speaks hate against non-Muslims.
I’ve read the history of Islam and its desire to take over the entire world. I am aware of radical propaganda, and it’s not surprising to see that because of those ideologies many detach themselves from Islam.

agenda agenda elite elite. one should not throw words around without knowing what they mean. there is no agenda from the western world when a dude screams allahu akbar and kills somebody. obama didn't sent that guy in france to kill the teacher. it was multiple parents of students organizing the killing. to even excuse it, like it's done with bts, that there is someone else to be blamed on one's decisions, it's denying the crime. supporting the motive, how nobody gets to mock the prophet...

I've met so many muslims who are furious about it, the damage is causing, etc. none of them is defending like i see it here. people who aren't fanatics, are able to see the wrong regarding the object of their obsession. wether it's religion, or bts, or anything else.

in my experience with muslims, there are three types that I personally met (never met a killer though) :
1) the ones not affiliated to the islamic cult, criticizing islam and the current situation (very rare)
2) the moderate radical ones where the girl walks around with her head covered amongst peers, but without it on the outside. the father does not inherit her anything, so the woman is seen inferior and not worthy to the man. she's not allowed to marry a non muslim and interact too much with non-muslims, basically rejecting the outside world
3) the ones raping any woman they meet, beating up anyone who isn't muslim, harboring pure hate against everything that's non-muslim, constantly making anti'propaganda, using derogatory slurs, intimidating, threatening, engaging in "honorkillings" if the sister dates a non-muslim she gets beaten and tortured until she dies

none of the option 2 and 3 is normal, human and respectful to the others.

i have travelled to turkey, i've been around many muslims, the new influx of radicals is not what muslims in europe used to be. hence the increased no in terrorist attacks and radicals.
turkey is our romanian neighbor. we were always in good terms, i've been to turkey many times. all i hear about it how extreme they've all become under erdogan, basically unrecognizable.
also hating and thinking everyone from the outside hates them. it's this constant feeling of hate' hate hate towards non'muslims.

i of course don't blame single muslims for what's happening, but you have to allow people to criticize and talk about it. otherwise it's at least hypocritical. we talk about everything, but when it comes to islam we have to be silent? i post almost daily about some crimes committed by white people.
do you understand the problem ? the double standard?
i feel like muslims, as peaceful as they are, have difficulties admitting that their religion might not be perfect and are trying to defend the actions one way or the other. someone makes a caricature of muhammad. ok, so? you are listening to bts and watching caricatures and mockings of jesus. freemasonry, etc. do you see christians killing anybody over it?

there cannot be a peaceful religion, as long as you don't allow, don't see, won't consider flaws, mistakes and also humility.

this is the second post i see you writing. out of nowhere. to defend...i don't really know what. i never said all muslims are bad.

I've been active on VC since february i believe. this is the first time writing about a crime committed by muslims and it wasn't even brought up by me.
that's what the killers are.muslims. i can't call them jews, germans, romanians. they are muslims.
in the past 11 months many horrible crimes on daily basis have been committed by muslims, being hidden from public's eye.
I am sorry if it hurts your feelings to see the reality, but i live under a islamic terror and since I've reported for the past 11 months only crimes committed by the western world, don't you think I am also allowed to talk about the crimes islam is committing ? why would you wanna hide all that. 11 months of reports only over crimes by the western world, people talking about the mean mean west and the horrible gates, WHO, clinton, etc.
You are ok to report on those, but everything that regards islam, it's forbidden. I shall not dare reporting on attacks or other crimes committed by muslims.

if one wants to talk about the world, globalization, the elite, the vaccines, the mind control (!! - talking about all radicals and their mind control), one is only half there. the other half is islam. Islam started the idea of everything that's wrong about the elite.
you cannot sit back and enjoy the ride of talking about half of the world ignoring the other half, the islam.
you sat back, enjoyed the stories and trash here, as well as the other forum, the evil jews (Rothschild, Rockefeller, soros, etc) but as soon as one even goes near islam, that's what? holly forbidden land?

the agenda behind the attacks? islam's desire since existing of controlling the world. by using religion as a justification of their beheadings and killings, which is why there is no other religion in the history of human kind, that has killed more people than islam. it is not the islam who's the victim. it's islam the perpetuator.

i hope you see through the double standard and hypocrisy. I am sure you don't mean it, but that's the only agenda of islam. if you are incapable of being objective and are only ok when discussing one side of the world, then the problem is elsewhere.

when you sit at home thinking about, why is it ok for you or any other muslim, to talk about the "elite" and how horrible people are, only as long as it concerns the western world and asia. god forbidden one talks about the evilness of islam and muslims. which is the other half of the world.

islam started all that. the political agenda behind globalization and erasing of christianity is islam's plan. the elite is divided between west and islam. a little hint : muslims go very easy on gays, because they are being told so. despite of the religious believes, only 1 crime in 15 years targeting gays has been committed in germany. you have the very oft occurring gang rapes of little boys, which is weird, but really crimes against homosexuals? ONE.
since gay people have taken over west, the muslim elite knows, that there is no way around it anymore. they have to deal with gays.
i repeat / ONE crime against gay people in 15 years, which happened to be last week after the attack in france.

the newly found love between gays and muslims..in sweden and germany, gay antifa and muslims are here and in sweden brothers from a different mother, like the saying goes.

so before anybody talks about the mean mean mean world, please, leave the double standards away and allow people to talk about islam without thinking you're a holly territory and everything it's ok as long as we trash the western world. it's double standard and proves the contrary of what peace means.

peace also means truth.
there is no truth without the whole picture
there is no whole picture without talking about the problem with islam.
I agree with a lots of what you are saying

it seems like its ok everywhere to blame the jews on everything, and be very racist to them and call them everything, but when it comes to muslims it become like a red line lol...I am not saying that israel haven't done bad things or etc..don't misunderstood that, I am saying generalization on all jews to be evil and bad etc..seems to be always acceptable...and muslims as will apparently have their own sharing of things that are bad that they commit but it always a red line to identify that, I am not saying every muslim is bad, don't misunderstood that as will, but apparently a lots of muslims are problematic and should be called out on what they are doing, and muslim countries have a lots of questionable laws that are abusive and should also called out

I am not gonna talk about the Quran or the islamic doctrine, because this is not the thread for it, and it would turn into religious debate and its not fruitful any way
 

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Islamic doctrine never commands people to attack innocent people to behead and kill civilians in this barbaric manner. Even if someone insults the prophet, this is not acceptable. IMO this act cannot be done by a sane person. A mentally ill person, perhaps with psychosis and imperative voices that encourage them to kill seems more plausible. Unfortunately a lot of people with psychotic mental illnesses get radical and irrational ideas around religion, especially if they come from a religious background. They may even believe that they are in contact with angels and demons that they see/hear. Blaming all Muslims is not right. A lot of so falled ”terrorist attacks” are politcally motivated and set up by those with specific agendas, e.g. 9/11 and middle eastern wars.
 

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I agree with a lots of what you are saying

it seems like its ok everywhere to blame the jews on everything, and be very racist to them and call them everything, but when it comes to muslims it become like a red line lol...I am not saying that israel haven't done bad things or etc..don't misunderstood that, I am saying generalization on all jews to be evil and bad etc..seems to be always acceptable...and muslims as will apparently have their own sharing of things that are bad that they commit but it always a red line to identify that, I am not saying every muslim is bad, don't misunderstood that as will, but apparently a lots of muslims are problematic and should be called out on what they are doing, and muslim countries have a lots of questionable laws that are abusive and should also called out

I am not gonna talk about the Quran or the islamic doctrine, because this is not the thread for it, and it would turn into religious debate and its not fruitful any way
I don’t know where you live, but in the west openly critising Jews or Israel can cost you your job and a ban from all mainstream media platforms. You will be branded an anti-semite for life.
 
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I don’t know where you live, but in the west openly critising Jews or Israel can cost you your job and a ban from all mainstream media platforms. You will be branded an anti-semite for life.
I live in the middle east and here it quite the opposite...the jews has been trashed everywhere and its the norm...I don't live in Europe so I don't know how it is there, but I saw online always also talking negatively about them quit often, its ok to call them out on some of the things they have done like Rothschild and we know they are jews, but a lots of time, its generalizing all the jews
 

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I live in the middle east and here it quite the opposite...the jews has been trashed everywhere and its the norm...I don't live in Europe so I don't know how it is there, but I saw online always also talking negatively about them quit often, its ok to call them out on some of the things they have done like Rothschild and we know they are jews, but a lots of time, its generalizing all the jews
Well, yes the middle east is different because of all the regional conflicts and wars revolving around Isr@el. People may talk online, but in formal settings, at the workplace and universities, in the mainstream media etc it is absolutely unacceptable in Europe and the US/ Canada.

If you live in one of the gulf countries, I can understand your perspective. They are known for their inhumane treatment of migrant workers, laziness and tribal culture, although things may be changing. Other middle eastern countries hate them too. I would not want to live there as an immigrant.

Note: I don’t mean hate as on individual level, but hate those countries on a large scale political level. I won’t go into depth as it is not relevant to the thread.
Also not all middle easterners are arabs or muslims, far from it in fact. There are Iranians/Persians, Turks, Kurds, Israelis, Afghans, Armenians etc. Not all arabs are muslims, millions are Christian.
Not to generalize all Gulf arabs by any means, but human rights issues with migrant workers is a big problem there.
 
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Exactly @Princessssss it is not Islamic at all and for someone who hasn’t bothered to read the Quran, the Hadith or any Islamic scripture, she is very self entitled when talking about a religion based on a few experiences. There is nothing wrong with Islam but a lot wrong with Muslims. A lot of people talk about how Saudi is such a corrupt country not allowing women to drive, forcing women to dress, act be a certain way etc. But in Islam if you read Surah Nisa you will see the speciality of Muslims so many times. If you read hadiths about Maryam (ra), Khadija (ra), Aminah (ra) Asiyah (ra), Aisha (ra)if you read the stories of these women from business Involvement, to piety, to intellect to kindness and compassion you will see what Islam’s stance on Muslim is. You can’t blame a religion if Muslims are bad people. Do you know what else is funny. They talk about how France is doing such an amazing job, but Saudi Arabia supports France. That just shows that muslim governments are corrupt too and part of the elite. Macron ministers in his own cabinet are openly Freemasons and macron himself has visited Freemason gatherings. So this man is against the elite then???

Arabs don’t just treat other religions bad . They treat other races bad. And guess who is at the top of the list with their most preferred race? White people. South Asians and black people are right at the bottom. I want to teach English in Dubai (God willing) but I won’t generalise all Arabs when I teach there because I know all Arabs won’t treat me with prejudice because I am Pakistani (I think they give British Pakistani people more respect because they are more western which I find so absurd and wrong. I could also pass as an Arab and a lot of people have thought I was Middle Eastern because I am light skinned and have resembling features so perhaps the prejudice may be less which again is so wrong)

@Truthteller you are so right. I totally agree with you. A lot of these people who are radicalised are not even practicing Muslims who attend mosques frequently. They don’t pray, dont follow Islamic teachings, drink alcohol but would die for Islam?? Also why do they bomb people and then die either by suicide or get shot. Why are they hardly alive for questioning or prosecution? Why do local authorities and governments already receive information on attacks but only spread aid when the attack has occurred? Why was isis predictively programmed and why was research done to show that plane themselves were unable to breakthrough the metal beams on the towers and there was another force acting which would have had to understood exactly the material and architectural forces used on the building to cause a crash.

I am sick and tired of sitting back and letting people talk crap without having to have my say. yes Muslims aren’t perfect, most of our governments in Muslim majority countries are pathetic and have failed their people as well as Islam. Islam however is perfect and for someone who hasn’t even bothered to pick up the Quran and who’s only media sources are right wing propaganda it is laughable and also highly insensitive to come at a whole religion.

Correction: not all Christians are good people. Christians, Jews, Hindus, all kill in the name of religion in different parts of the world. But of course the west is the most important and Muslim lives are a joke because “we are all terrorists.”If us defending our religion whilst also condemning every attack that has occurred is the same as us killing someone I feel sorry for people. Today I went out with 2 Muslims, one Sikh and one agnostic. We went to an Indian restaurant and had fun at a white centre . I had no problem with any of them and we all facilitated well together. That is the majority of Muslims in the world.
 
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At the last store opening a few months ago, it was TH holding hands and pulling JK.

Maybe they switched for promo but I wouldn’t be surprised if they live together. JK sold his apartment and Jimin can’t sleep alone. Forgot how old he is but despite their fans thinking he is a toddler, I don’t buy it.



As to your child prostitution question - it’s everywhere.
Lol jimin and jungkook don't live together. Jimin just comes to jungkook's house anytime jungkook wants company
 

OwlMoon

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S*ura 4 verses 71–76 urge M*uslims to liberate the oppressed and also warns those who stay behind and fail to fight that they shall miss out on plunder, but those who fight and slain shall go to heaven - Wikipedia

I*slam is not a peaceful religion. To "fight and take up arms against I*slam enemies" is written in the Q*uran. It is in the teachings of the P*rophet himself. This J*ihad doctrine is taught by r*adical I*slamist in M*adrasa. They teach and brainwash students with their r*adical teachings and views. No surprise at all that so many from these schools/M*adrasas become s*uicide b*ombers. They believe that they will go straight to heaven if they kill their enemies. Enemies for them are all those that don't follow I*slam. They are so ready to kill at the slightest provocation, so always ready to find an excuse to kill cuz they want to go to heaven and killing non M*uslims is a sure ticket to heaven.. Smh

F*rance b*eheading was committed by an eighteen year old - obviously fresh out of school. His excuse to secure his place in heaven was a c*artoon s*ketch. These days lots people draws c*artoons and posts them anywhere they like. Why? B'cuz we have freedom of expression duh! Do they know how many c*artoon s*ketches of J*esus, P*ope, n*uns, etc, are in circulation around the world. Im sure some of them came from the pens of M*uslims themselves. They want people to respect their r*eligion, so why don't they do the same. Double standard much?

In contrast to the Q*uran, the B*ible teach us to love our enemies.



Ps: Imma delete this post soon. So, please everyone, don't quote me or reply to this. The world we live is not a safe place anymore!
Wait really?! :oops:
 

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Exactly @Princessssss it is not Islamic at all and for someone who hasn’t bothered to read the Quran, the Hadith or any Islamic scripture, she is very self entitled when talking about a religion based on a few experiences. There is nothing wrong with Islam but a lot wrong with Muslims. A lot of people talk about how Saudi is such a corrupt country not allowing women to drive, forcing women to dress, act be a certain way etc. But in Islam if you read Surah Nisa you will see the speciality of Muslims so many times. If you read hadiths about Maryam (ra), Khadija (ra), Aminah (ra) Asiyah (ra), Aisha (ra)if you read the stories of these women from business Involvement, to piety, to intellect to kindness and compassion you will see what Islam’s stance on Muslim is. You can’t blame a religion if Muslims are bad people. Do you know what else is funny. They talk about how France is doing such an amazing job, but Saudi Arabia supports France. That just shows that muslim governments are corrupt too and part of the elite. Macron ministers in his own cabinet are openly Freemasons and macron himself has visited Freemason gatherings. So this man is against the elite then???

Arabs don’t just treat other religions bad . They treat other races bad. And guess who is at the top of the list with their most preferred race? White people. South Asians and black people are right at the bottom. I want to teach English in Dubai (God willing) but I won’t generalise all Arabs when I teach there because I know all Arabs won’t treat me with prejudice because I am Pakistani (I think they give British Pakistani people more respect because they are more western which I find so absurd and wrong. I could also pass as an Arab and a lot of people have thought I was Middle Eastern because I am light skinned and have resembling features so perhaps the prejudice may be less which again is so wrong)

@Truthteller you are so right. I totally agree with you. A lot of these people who are radicalised are not even practicing Muslims who attend mosques frequently. They don’t pray, dont follow Islamic teachings, drink alcohol but would die for Islam?? Also why do they bomb people and then die either by suicide or get shot. Why are they hardly alive for questioning or prosecution? Why do local authorities and governments already receive information on attacks but only spread aid when the attack has occurred? Why was isis predictively programmed and why was research done to show that plane themselves were unable to breakthrough the metal beams on the towers and there was another force acting which would have had to understood exactly the material and architectural forces used on the building to cause a crash.

I am sick and tired of sitting back and letting people talk crap without having to have my say. yes Muslims aren’t perfect, most of our governments in Muslim majority countries are pathetic and have failed their people as well as Islam. Islam however is perfect and for someone who hasn’t even bothered to pick up the Quran and who’s only media sources are right wing propaganda it is laughable and also highly insensitive to come at a whole religion.

Correction: not all Christians are good people. Christians, Jews, Hindus, all kill in the name of religion in different parts of the world. But of course the west is the most important and Muslim lives are a joke because we are all terrorists. If us defending our religion whilst also condemning every attack that has occurred is the same as us killing someone I feel sorry for people. Today I went out with 2 Muslims, one Sikh and one agnostic. We went to an Indian restaurant and had fun at a white centre . I had no problem with any of them and we all facilitated well together. That is the majority of Muslims in the world.
lol I have absolutely noooo energy to respond no more, I think at this point its because their deen is wish washi itself they they dont know what they believe in .

@boti I meant that an attack or killing or whatever there is nothing islamic about. And in islam woman are not lower that men lol wtf this what I mean if you dont havent learn about islam dont make these , copy paste day to day person anti islamic pages claims.

From what I am seeing is allot of islamophobia,
 
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Princessssss

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Give me a laugh wikipedia , that is not a quran verse un
S*ura 4 verses 71–76 urge M*uslims to liberate the oppressed and also warns those who stay behind and fail to fight that they shall miss out on plunder, but those who fight and slain shall go to heaven - Wikipedia

I*slam is not a peaceful religion. To "fight and take up arms against I*slam enemies" is written in the Q*uran. It is in the teachings of the P*rophet himself. This J*ihad doctrine is taught by r*adical I*slamist in M*adrasa. They teach and brainwash students with their r*adical teachings and views. No surprise at all that so many from these schools/M*adrasas become s*uicide b*ombers. They believe that they will go straight to heaven if they kill their enemies. Enemies for them are all those that don't follow I*slam. They are so ready to kill at the slightest provocation, so always ready to find an excuse to kill cuz they want to go to heaven and killing non M*uslims is a sure ticket to heaven.. Smh

F*rance b*eheading was committed by an eighteen year old - obviously fresh out of school. His excuse to secure his place in heaven was a c*artoon s*ketch. These days lots people draws c*artoons and posts them anywhere they like. Why? B'cuz we have freedom of expression duh! Do they know how many c*artoon s*ketches of J*esus, P*ope, n*uns, etc, are in circulation around the world. Im sure some of them came from the pens of M*uslims themselves. They want people to respect their r*eligion, so why don't they do the same. Double standard much?

In contrast to the Q*uran, the B*ible teach us to love our enemies.



Ps: Imma delete this post soon. So, please everyone, don't quote me or reply to this. The world we live is not a safe place anymore!
AAA give me a break wikepedia really , that is not even a quran verse it is translated without its full meanings and it is not even a good translation , quran is in arabic becuease the meaning gets lost in translation , So in evey quran translated there ia tasfir , tasfir is the meaning and context in wich a particular verse came down under a specific time . There is also another verse that says killing one person is like killing the world . Soo what is you about huh? . Dont speak from that wixh you dont know.
 
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