Why aren't all women feminists?

Red Sky at Morning

Superstar
Joined
Mar 15, 2017
Messages
13,931
Why aren’t all men chauvinists?

Perhaps many people can see that grabbing hold of something can break it in your hands?
 

Karlysymon

Superstar
Joined
Mar 18, 2017
Messages
6,722
What are your reasons as a woman? I'm genuinely curious.
Do i have to be one?
As per the above post, what incentive is there in turning into a second-rate male? :)
Most men haven't a clue how to cook, and as a single man my attempts fall flat every time.
In fact I had to start this thread in a Survival forum under my screenname 'Gamer' to help me try get to grips with the mysteries of cooking but I'm still hopeless-

I think that they do have a clue but use that excuse because they are lazy or are impatient because cooking a good meal requires patience. Apparently, men actually cook better than women.
 

Aazaad

Established
Joined
Dec 19, 2017
Messages
282
Because they know better, there are some actual issues regarding women in various societies, but feminism has done jack shit to rectify them, if not make it worse.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2017
Messages
1,470
Depends on the feminism. Feminism is not a one size fits all.
After all at the moment in time there are four waves.
Wave one - suffrage
Wave two - womens lib, 1960s to 1980s
Wave three - intersectional feminism, 1980s-2010s.
Wave four - this one's new about a decade old and has actually split in two this year. You have the liberal feminists who demand trans rights are more important than women's rights and the radical feminists who are reverting back to second wave feminism

I'm not a liberal feminist I'm quite open about my distaste for trans rights, I don't believe the libfem mantra of trans women are women, I believe women are different than men, that women and men need separate spaces, sports and other needs, that a man in address is not a woman.
I used to be on the fringe of lib Dems, but I see libfems and the new trans radicals as a cult, who are single handedly destroying all the rights women and gay people have fought for over the last few decades.

So many feminists will say I'm not a true feminist because I won't bow to the trans cult but I class myself as a feminist be side I believe in a women's right to education, equal rights voting, the right to own property, the right to not be property and that women are not inferior to men they are just different.
 

Karlysymon

Superstar
Joined
Mar 18, 2017
Messages
6,722
@Karlysymon “Apparently, men actually cook better than women.”

You have never ate one of my meals :eek:
Oh, come on!
You can't be that bad! When was the last time you prepared a meal for your wife? If you are going to say "a decade ago", then you better not say it because it amounts to a crime :p

To be honest, for me, a meal prepared by a male always tastes better than that prepared by a female and i enjoy seeing men in the kitchen.

Prepare something for me and then i'll decide if you are sooooo horrible! Will send address shortly....:)
 

TrustNo1

Established
Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Messages
292
Aaron Russo’s conversation with Rockefeller:

In a later conversation, Rockefeller asked Russo what he thought women's liberation was about. Russo's response that he thought it was about the right to work and receive equal pay as men, just as they had won the right to vote, caused Rockefeller to laughingly retort, "You're an idiot! Let me tell you what that was about, we the Rockefeller's funded that, we funded women's lib, we're the one's who got all of the newspapers and television - the Rockefeller Foundation."

Rockefeller told Russo of two primary reasons why the elite bankrolled women's lib, one because before women's lib the bankers couldn't tax half the population and two because it allowed them to get children in school at an earlier age, enabling them to be indoctrinated into accepting the state as the primary family, breaking up the traditional family model.
 

Cintra

Star
Joined
Jan 11, 2020
Messages
3,224
Aaron Russo’s conversation with Rockefeller:

In a later conversation, Rockefeller asked Russo what he thought women's liberation was about. Russo's response that he thought it was about the right to work and receive equal pay as men, just as they had won the right to vote, caused Rockefeller to laughingly retort, "You're an idiot! Let me tell you what that was about, we the Rockefeller's funded that, we funded women's lib, we're the one's who got all of the newspapers and television - the Rockefeller Foundation."

Rockefeller told Russo of two primary reasons why the elite bankrolled women's lib, one because before women's lib the bankers couldn't tax half the population and two because it allowed them to get children in school at an earlier age, enabling them to be indoctrinated into accepting the state as the primary family, breaking up the traditional family model.
Link?
 
Joined
May 18, 2018
Messages
4,046
I agree with first wave feminists but after that, I mostly bailed. I think the best choice I ever made was to choose my husband and family, staying home and taking care of all of them. At the same time, I get why some women don’t choose that. It has been such a blessed, joy-filled 25-year venture for me and I would not trade any of it. Hardcore feminists would say I failed women by being a homemaker/mom. I say if I had to go back, I wouldn’t change any of it. I think much of what feminism sells to women is a lie that will leave them empty later on.
Power mom is back dropping wisdom. If the current generation had any humility, they would listen to people who have lived through life. Instead they are guided by old angry lesbians dried up among the dust of university libraries. Health, home, family, life, growth, fruits, flower, music, perfume, happiness, and dance are mysteries to these souls who only exist to spread their suffering to the young. painting.jpg
 

Red Sky at Morning

Superstar
Joined
Mar 15, 2017
Messages
13,931
Power mom is back dropping wisdom. If the current generation had any humility, they would listen to people who have lived through life. Instead they are guided by old angry lesbians dried up among the dust of university libraries. Health, home, family, life, growth, fruits, flower, music, perfume, happiness, and dance are mysteries to these souls who only exist to spread their suffering to the young. View attachment 43980
^ Eloquent and true
 

justjess

Superstar
Joined
Mar 16, 2017
Messages
11,510
I agree with first wave feminists but after that, I mostly bailed. I think the best choice I ever made was to choose my husband and family, staying home and taking care of all of them. At the same time, I get why some women don’t choose that. It has been such a blessed, joy-filled 25-year venture for me and I would not trade any of it. Hardcore feminists would say I failed women by being a homemaker/mom. I say if I had to go back, I wouldn’t change any of it. I think much of what feminism sells to women is a lie that will leave them empty later on.
Actually, a feminist would tell you that they are happy you had the opportunity to choose what worked best for you. Because that’s all it’s ever been about - a choice. Not all women are the same or are content/happy with the same life choices.
 
Joined
May 18, 2018
Messages
4,046
Actually, a feminist would tell you that they are happy you had the opportunity to choose what worked best for you. Because that’s all it’s ever been about - a choice. Not all women are the same or are content/happy with the same life choices.
Citation needed. There's ample feminist literature saying exactly what she is pointing out. What youre saying is little more than a platitude
 

justjess

Superstar
Joined
Mar 16, 2017
Messages
11,510
Citation needed. There's ample feminist literature saying exactly what she is pointing out. What youre saying is little more than a platitude
Right... says the anti feminist man to the feminist woman. Are you seriously trying to mansplain feminism to me? Hahahaha


A quick google search will bring up thousands more like it. It isn’t a platitude whatsoever. It’s about choice, for one. On top of that if feminists didn’t think being a stay at home mom/wife was valuable they wouldn’t have spent years arguing about unpaid domestic labor and emotional labor and pushing for recognition in the home sphere as well. If all you choose to focus on is radical feminists of a certain ilk, and then take their arguments out of context to boot.. then that’s a you problem, yet again. A common issue on this forum it seems.
 

justjess

Superstar
Joined
Mar 16, 2017
Messages
11,510
That's first wave. Waves after that shunned for not choosing the "right" choice.
Or your just listening to the loudest voices. Ive taken woman’s studies courses and follow feminist publications. I’m one of the only people on this site that’s ever called themselves a feminist. You misrepresent the entire ideology when you focus on one small fringe but very loud voice within it.
 

justjess

Superstar
Joined
Mar 16, 2017
Messages
11,510
I would say the bulk of self proclaimed feminists choose an outside the home career, over a more domesticated, life path.
Its the MONEY that is the motivating factor...
Don't get me wrong, I "get it".
If a woman can earn as much, if not more than her husband, why wouldn't she also work?
Whomever brings home the bacon has the advantage over the non-earning, or lesser earning, partner.
I mean, same could be said about the less intelligent of the two.
"He" who has the green, and the mind to mend it, maintains the power in the relationship.
But besides these glaringly apparent facts, I think beyond the actual monetary input, one has to come to a crossroads in their life and think to themselves what do they truly value? Is it money? Power? Love? Respect? Happiness? Freedom? Security? Peace?
Its an unfortunate pattern of the modern times that not more people choose love or peace, over money/power.
This comment is not directed at anyone at all, just an opinion.
I respect ALL, so long as they respect me, too. :)
If you think it’s about money then your missing the point.. even women who don’t need the money may and often do choose to work anyway for numerous reasons other then money.
 
Joined
May 18, 2018
Messages
4,046
Or your just listening to the loudest voices. Ive taken woman’s studies courses and follow feminist publications. I’m one of the only people on this site that’s ever called themselves a feminist. You misrepresent the entire ideology when you focus on one small fringe but very loud voice within it.
The actual bulk of feminist literature is not fringe
Right... says the anti feminist man to the feminist woman. Are you seriously trying to mansplain feminism to me? Hahahaha


A quick google search will bring up thousands more like it. It isn’t a platitude whatsoever. It’s about choice, for one. On top of that if feminists didn’t think being a stay at home mom/wife was valuable they wouldn’t have spent years arguing about unpaid domestic labor and emotional labor and pushing for recognition in the home sphere as well. If all you choose to focus on is radical feminists of a certain ilk, and then take their arguments out of context to boot.. then that’s a you problem, yet again. A common issue on this forum it seems.
Im not anti feminist, i love femininity, and I hate that modern lesbians etc in universities work to destroy it with their false theories
 
Top