BTS discussion thread

[gmmontano92]

Some saesang infos..
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Though I don't believe any of this because anybody can type up something and say they've seen or know something but I do agree with @queen82 There is no obvious way a prostitute dresses, especially now-a-days when girls wear next to nothing. Also, prostitutes typically dress very nice or very casual. Especially those who aren't streetwalkers and are part of an agency. I doubt any of this even happened but you can't tell who or what someone is based on their clothes. Also, concerning ITZY, there have just been too many idols who've named them as people they admire or their ideal, especially Ryujin. And how would a saesang even know that? That's not something you could know by following someone or stalking them. You would have to be in their circle of friends or at least personally associated with them. The Seulgi one made me laugh just because, as a former alcoholic who has grown up with an alcoholic parent and obviously been to treatment with other alcoholics, I have never in my life heard of someone drinking to alleviate anger issues. Drinking is usually what causes/brings out anger. Like I said, anyone could write something like this about anybody so I wont believe it.

 

[somewhat_yuna]

Though I don't believe any of this because anybody can type up something and say they've seen or know something but I do agree with @queen82 There is no obvious way a prostitute dresses, especially now-a-days when girls wear next to nothing. Also, prostitutes typically dress very nice or very casual. Especially those who aren't streetwalkers and are part of an agency. I doubt any of this even happened but you can't tell who or what someone is based on their clothes. Also, concerning ITZY, there have just been too many idols who've named them as people they admire or their ideal, especially Ryujin. And how would a saesang even know that? That's not something you could know by following someone or stalking them. You would have to be in their circle of friends or at least personally associated with them. The Seulgi one made me laugh just because, as a former alcoholic who has grown up with an alcoholic parent and obviously been to treatment with other alcoholics, I have never in my life heard of someone drinking to alleviate anger issues. Drinking is usually what causes/brings out anger. Like I said, anyone could write something like this about anybody so I wont believe it.

Wow. Very impressed at your answer. Most saesangs infos are either: fake, manipulated, repeated. I just read for entertainment.

 

[gmmontano92]

Lol I have to say this performance almost made me a fan again LOL. but ya I dont stan them. Who is better than bts in kpop? I dont follow kpop but I have noticed BTS choreography becoming more and more simplistic and boring. I wonder whats up with that because I honestly believe that they were and probably are still excellent dancers. I do watch some kpop so I know that to be in kpop u have to dance really well but BTS seems to be regressing in that department?

Even when I was a bigger fan of BTS and had just heard of NCT and only watched and/or heard one or two songs, I always wondered why they didn't/don't have BTS's success. NCT's vocal line is seriously beautiful. Taeil has SUCH a beautiful voice. I mean that type of singing that gets you right in your soul. It's not just that he's a good singer, he FEELS everything he sings. There's just so much passion behind it. Then there's Jaehyun, Doyoung, and Jungwoo. All three of them are above average singers and in the case of the first two not only better than BTS but they are legitimate contenders as the best vocals in all of K-Pop. Then there's their dancing. I would say NCT and SEVENTEEN are probably the best dancers in K-Pop. Taeyong himself is an "IT" idol. Great singing, amazing rapping, killer dancer and drop dead gorgeous. I don't know how people go so crazy over V when Taeyong not only fits the Korean and Asian standard of beauty but also internationally. Their music is very much what is popular in the US. They have English versions of almost every song and it sounds just as good as their Korean ones. SM really didn't need SUPER M when they already have NCT. NCT is overall and individually a better group than BTS with better singer, better dancers, better personalities, genuine, better performers, and has better music. That people are acting like BTS is just sooo new and innovative and like their music is "it's on genre" is not only sickening but ridiculous. This was actual the first thing that made me give BTS the side eye because although I loved them and was a huge fan, I could not for the life of me figure out why they were so popular in the US of all places and why I can't even turn on local radio without hearing their name. Even my mom was like "something's off".

 

[gmmontano92]

Im pretty sure they are not dating. Well who knows. Dont care lol

My sentiments EXACTLY lol

 

[gmmontano92]

BRUH I HAVE NOTICED THAT NO REGULAR KOREAN GUY ACTS LIKE THAT!! NOR DO THEY WEAR MAKEUP. NOR LOOK LIKE HOW THEY LOOK LIKE. EVEN THE GIRLS!! IN KOREA THERE ARE DOME THICK GIRKS THERE. IDK IF IT'S JUST ME.

I wouldn't say "none". I have quite a few Korean and Japanese friends and though they definitely aren't as flamboyant about it, they definitely are more touchy than say American men -- like holding hands, hugging. And they wear makeup because they're famous lol. South Korea is frighteningly shallow and vain. So these celebrities, even the males, have to look the absolute best, no flaws. You're definitely right about Koreans not looking like the idols though, but I think that's with every country. The average person doesn't look like celebrities of course. Those girls who talk about wanting to move to Korea or Japan because the guys are just soooooo cute I'm just like uhhhh, they don't look like that lol

 

[gmmontano92]

Wow. Very impressed at your answer. Most saesangs infos are either: fake, manipulated, repeated. I just read for entertainment.

Sorry for the spamming people. But thank you so much @somewhat_yuna I really appreciate it!! ^_^

 

[ayo05]

Y'all i'm sorry for posting a lot I just call u guys family that I can share this with cause u guys are a few of the only ppl that I can actually talk to about these stuff. So if anyone is uncomfortable with me posting to much pls tell me.

Now I just saw this ad on my YT recommendations and they put Lisa of Blackpink and Bambam of Got7 as their thumbnail saw the first thing in my mind was like transgenders and at first i was like "Girl why would u say that!!!" But then i watched the ad. It was black and white, like Ying and Yang. The duality "as above so below". (Yes JD is having a TREMENDOUS affect on me loll) Idk tho...
Check it out!

 

[ayo05]

I wouldn't say "none". I have quite a few Korean and Japanese friends and though they definitely aren't as flamboyant about it, they definitely are more touchy than say American men -- like holding hands, hugging. And they wear makeup because they're famous lol. South Korea is frighteningly shallow and vain. So these celebrities, even the males, have to look the absolute best, no flaws. You're definitely right about Koreans not looking like the idols though, but I think that's with every country. The average person doesn't look like celebrities of course. Those girls who talk about wanting to move to Korea or Japan because the guys are just soooooo cute I'm just like uhhhh, they don't look like that lol

Oooh okay so they are like touchy in general gotchu!!! And yes some delulu fans want to go their so they can date someone as close to their idol's facial appearance. So sad..

 

[ayo05]

Even when I was a bigger fan of BTS and had just heard of NCT and only watched and/or heard one or two songs, I always wondered why they didn't/don't have BTS's success. NCT's vocal line is seriously beautiful. Taeil has SUCH a beautiful voice. I mean that type of singing that gets you right in your soul. It's not just that he's a good singer, he FEELS everything he sings. There's just so much passion behind it. Then there's Jaehyun, Doyoung, and Jungwoo. All three of them are above average singers and in the case of the first two not only better than BTS but they are legitimate contenders as the best vocals in all of K-Pop. Then there's their dancing. I would say NCT and SEVENTEEN are probably the best dancers in K-Pop. Taeyong himself is an "IT" idol. Great singing, amazing rapping, killer dancer and drop dead gorgeous. I don't know how people go so crazy over V when Taeyong not only fits the Korean and Asian standard of beauty but also internationally. Their music is very much what is popular in the US. They have English versions of almost every song and it sounds just as good as their Korean ones. SM really didn't need SUPER M when they already have NCT. NCT is overall and individually a better group than BTS with better singer, better dancers, better personalities, genuine, better performers, and has better music. That people are acting like BTS is just sooo new and innovative and like their music is "it's on genre" is not only sickening but ridiculous. This was actual the first thing that made me give BTS the side eye because although I loved them and was a huge fan, I could not for the life of me figure out why they were so popular in the US of all places and why I can't even turn on local radio without hearing their name. Even my mom was like "something's off".

Yep and when u try and say something the fan's get defensive and say stupid stuff like..."tHeY pUt In HaRd woRk.." Like all other artists don't do that.... Or "ThEy CoTribUte aNd DoNaTe To UnIcef" Meanwhile Unicef is feeding on young innocent children's blood... And even the "tHeY tEll Us tO bE oUrSeLvEs" which is what the devil as been peeaching before BTS like.. They are trying to tell u that u don't NEED anyone else. But that's not true.. U need Jesus. He is the only way. They tell u that some of the things u do is good and okay. And that is not true!

 

[gmmontano92]

Yep and when u try and say something the fan's get defensive and say stupid stuff like..."tHeY pUt In HaRd woRk.." Like all other artists don't do that.... Or "ThEy CoTribUte aNd DoNaTe To UnIcef" Meanwhile Unicef is feeding on young innocent children's blood... And even the "tHeY tEll Us tO bE oUrSeLvEs" which is what the devil as been peeaching before BTS like.. They are trying to tell u that u don't NEED anyone else. But that's not true.. U need Jesus. He is the only way. They tell u that some of the things u do is good and okay. And that is not true!

Oh my gosh, seriously though! I've always said that same thing. Like every reason they say BTS is special are things every K-Pop idol or others have gone through. "They work hard" EVERY k-pop idol and trainee who doesn't even ever make it works hard. Have you seen the training and bs they have to put up with. "They came from a small company and were able to get big" Kinda like Big Bang. "They were the first to have that concept" Ignores Block B's entire existence and the fact that BTS wasn't popular at the beginning because people felt they were copying Block B. Pretty sad how things went for them because they really should've and could have been what BTS supposedly is now (whatever that is). Even that "they teach positivity and tell you to love yourself"...okay? Wasn't that the basis of every single show as a child? Barney, Teletubbies, Out of the Box. Not like it's a new or novel idea lol.

 

[TheNightDuck]

Y'all i'm sorry for posting a lot I just call u guys family that I can share this with cause u guys are a few of the only ppl that I can actually talk to about these stuff. So if anyone is uncomfortable with me posting to much pls tell me.

Now I just saw this ad on my YT recommendations and they put Lisa of Blackpink and Bambam of Got7 as their thumbnail saw the first thing in my mind was like transgenders and at first i was like "Girl why would u say that!!!" But then i watched the ad. It was black and white, like Ying and Yang. The duality "as above so below". (Yes JD is having a TREMENDOUS affect on me loll) Idk tho...
Check it out!

Dont have time to read and respond to all this stuff now but I am super interested to watch what u shared, but u post what u want and talk to us ok its welcomed!!!!!!!

 

[Kittyn]

Oh my gosh, seriously though! I've always said that same thing. Like every reason they say BTS is special are things every K-Pop idol or others have gone through. "They work hard" EVERY k-pop idol and trainee who doesn't even ever make it works hard. Have you seen the training and bs they have to put up with. "They came from a small company and were able to get big" Kinda like Big Bang. "They were the first to have that concept" Ignores Block B's entire existence and the fact that BTS wasn't popular at the beginning because people felt they were copying Block B. Pretty sad how things went for them because they really should've and could have been what BTS supposedly is now (whatever that is). Even that "they teach positivity and tell you to love yourself"...okay? Wasn't that the basis of every single show as a child? Barney, Teletubbies, Out of the Box. Not like it's a new or novel idea lol.

Sorry to bring this up but T _ T

I miss BAP but I know that they will never come back. They were more popular than BTS and EXO back then. If only their management didn't fuck up, they will be known worldwide.

Look at the fierce concept and I think they are the first for that.

Kpop groups won't survive without copying and I think BAP is the first to have the cartoon character themselves like the Matoki.

 

[Kimchi]

They are weird...i have no words for this performance...the girlish look with the crop top.....Bang never loose an opportunity to show that his favourite is Jk

 

[TheNightDuck]

They are weird...i have no words for this performance...the girlish look with the crop top.....Bang never loose an opportunity to show that his favourite is Jk

Which crop top? This is the 70s style of dressing. I think alot of younger people think some of the stuff BTS does is out there but if u go back in time alot of what celebs did was way worse. Even their fan service is completely tame and mild compared to other kpop groups where honestly after seeing it ive had to wash my eyes out with bleach. Men ripping their shirts off and french kissing other members on Stage. Yuck. Their style in dynamite is just typically vintage

 

[queen82]

Sorry to bring this up but T _ T

I miss BAP but I know that they will never come back. They were more popular than BTS and EXO back then. If only their management didn't fuck up, they will be known worldwide.

Look at the fierce concept and I think they are the first for that.

Kpop groups won't survive without copying and I think BAP is the first to have the cartoon character themselves like the Matoki.

yes that group was really cool

 

[Kimchi]

I agree, NCT are AMAZING, performers and they excel in all 3 categories. They are one of the best groups in terms of talent. Seventeen can challenge their choreo, but seventeen don’t have strong rappers like NCT do. I totally forgot to add them lol. About their personalities I beg to differ!! Taeyong is extremely talented but gives me the worst vibes of all. I tried getting in to NCT when they debuted , but I just couldn’t like the members personality especially his and some others. I Used to watch my fave groups fan signs, and Taeyong just seemed so fake all the time to his fans. The only one I liked was Lucas but haven’t kept up with him for years and he’s in SuperM now smh
Personality wise, I never found any group genuine apart from Day6, they are the only group who seem like they actually like eachother and appreciate their fans. A lot of Kpop artists are horrible behind the scenes to fans... many scandals have broken out about this. BTS are just very good actors lol, so they seem very genuine, but if you look closely all of them have moments that they absolutely hate army lol.

About visuals, again there are some strong visuals, Taeyong being one, but I don’t know V just stands out. There is something about V, that makes people notice him, and I don’t know why. I’ve never seen someone look so animated in my entire life. Of course without the makeup he looks a lot more normal.
There are some people who aren’t as talented but have something about them which stands out. It’s very strange and I don’t understand it but it’s the x Factor.

Zayn was a lot more talented than Harry, but Harry had the charm to be the most popular. Same with V. Mark NCT is another example. Kai exo. Taemin Shinee.Jimin BTS. They all have this charisma which some of the best performers lack


I hated NCT music too,just Wasn’t my style.So robotic and heavy... it hurt my ears. I loved Doyoungs covers tho!! BTS have very Americanised music. Make it Right, Best of Me, Dynamite can easily pass as American singles. BTS whole love yourself discography is also very appealing, which other groups lack. I think that is why they hit it in America, but also because they can’t seem to ever give up Satan

I love Nct,Doyoung and Taeil voice are amazing,i love also Mark and Jungwoo ,but people are focused on Taeyong...also Taemin said that Taeyong is perfect in everything...why?V is more charismatic and also Jimin...
Taeyong is Lsm favourite but there are in Sm others very talented like Kai , Taemin and Jonghyun(he was very talented )...Taeyong is like Jungkook...the golden guy but because is his role...not because he is the best...
Ten is better than Taeyong but Taeyong is the favourite so they represents him less than Taeyong..Taemin prefered Ten but must to support Taeyong because is untouchable...but you can see how much he cares to Ten...but Lee Satanman is the chief so he must to obey to Sm rules

 

[ayo05]

Oh my gosh, seriously though! I've always said that same thing. Like every reason they say BTS is special are things every K-Pop idol or others have gone through. "They work hard" EVERY k-pop idol and trainee who doesn't even ever make it works hard. Have you seen the training and bs they have to put up with. "They came from a small company and were able to get big" Kinda like Big Bang. "They were the first to have that concept" Ignores Block B's entire existence and the fact that BTS wasn't popular at the beginning because people felt they were copying Block B. Pretty sad how things went for them because they really should've and could have been what BTS supposedly is now (whatever that is). Even that "they teach positivity and tell you to love yourself"...okay? Wasn't that the basis of every single show as a child? Barney, Teletubbies, Out of the Box. Not like it's a new or novel idea lol.

I'm sayingggg like... Pick a new excuse

 

[ayo05]

Dont have time to read and respond to all this stuff now but I am super interested to watch what u shared, but u post what u want and talk to us ok its welcomed!!!!!!!

Thank u!

 

[ayo05]

Which crop top? This is the 70s style of dressing. I think alot of younger people think some of the stuff BTS does is out there but if u go back in time alot of what celebs did was way worse. Even their fan service is completely tame and mild compared to other kpop groups where honestly after seeing it ive had to wash my eyes out with bleach. Men ripping their shirts off and french kissing other members on Stage. Yuck. Their style in dynamite is just typically vintage

Yea but they tend to wear some outfits made by some bad ppl or they just wear color of clothes that represent something bad in their mvs. Like dynamite they wore colors that represented the pedo flag. And when they wear black and white they are talking about duality. Ying and yang. Boy and girl coming together.

 

[halley]

Sorry to bring this up but T _ T

I miss BAP but I know that they will never come back. They were more popular than BTS and EXO back then. If only their management didn't fuck up, they will be known worldwide.

Look at the fierce concept and I think they are the first for that.

Kpop groups won't survive without copying and I think BAP is the first to have the cartoon character themselves like the Matoki.

why are you opening my wound ? lol
I am both sad and glad at the same time. Their management perfectly succeeded to fail a group with full of talents, charisma and popularity. But I am glad that we do not see how they change with popularity and support of elites. Bee tea es members had innocent look in their eyes before 2016 (bst era), now it is totally gone. I do not want to see the same for B@p. y0ng_guk_guk_guk is in military now but zel0 is still doing great music.