The Bible Teaches Terrorism and Killing Infants

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Devil ???? Did you know that there was no such thing as a devil in the Old Testament? The word was always plural as in devil(S).

God told you that HE kill, and that HE make alive. Yet most still feel the need to blame a devil, but I digress at this point.

As another scripture says, is there death that I not caused ? ~ The Most High God.
By His will everything that happens is because He allows it to happen. What you're doing is using God as a cop out here for the actions of humans. Let's say person x was to become a homosexual are you going to say God caused that or would it be person x's transgression alone?
 

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For the Christians and any Muslims who are interested.

The Muslims on this thread do not read or study the Bible so therefore do not understand It and God. Their idea of God and how He expresses His love towards us is very different. They don't understand sin, the law, God's character etc according to the Bible. Their understanding will be according to their Islamic teaching or human wisdom and experience. They think they can apply their theology which is poles apart from ours to explain parts of the Bible they don't understand. It should be obvious to them that that is preposterous. So any explanation we give them is not going to be good enough.

The only way they could understand this subject and others from our point of view is if God reveals the truth to them. And God has been doing just that to many Muslims in Islamic countries around the world. They are finding out about the God of the Bible and giving their lives to Him and getting baptised. Many are giving their lives under very difficult situations because they have no freedom of choice where they live. Some have to hide that they are now Christians. I hear many such testimonies and it is my prayer that the Muslims here will discover Christ and His love for all of us but until they do, they won't understand any explanation we give them.

That's not to say as Christians we understand the Bible or God fully. We don't because we are fallen human beings living in a sinful world, we don't understand anything in this world or about God fully. However God gave us the Bible to get to know Him as much as we can do (depending on how much time we pray, study and get to know God) in this sinful world as we grow in faith and get sanctified.

Threads like this can lead us to doubt God. Lets not doubt God because we know through our dealings with Him, that He thinks only beautiful and wonderful thoughts towards all of us. We know He is a God of unchanging love and its His love for us that directs all of His actions in this world. Lets continue our faith and trust in Him unceasingly.
 
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By His will everything that happens is because He allows it to happen. What you're doing is using God as a cop out here for the actions of humans. Let's say person x was to become a homosexual are you going to say God caused that or would it be person x's transgression alone?
How am I using God as a cop out? It is him that said “I kill I make alive. I wound I heal, I do ALL these things”. So I’m not understanding. That’s scripture. Basically you are calling God a cop out not me. Not my words.
 

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How am I using God as a cop out? It is him that said “I kill I make alive. I wound I heal, I do ALL these things”. So I’m not understanding. That’s scripture. Basically you are calling God a cop out not me. Not my words.
You didn't answer my question. I'll post it again to you using a different example. Person x becomes an idol worshipper now did God do that or was that person x's choice?
 

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You will find no verse in the Qur'aan that encourages its followers to kill woman and children. Killing non combatants in war is strictly prohibited. The Qur'aan has many verses prohibiting the pagan arabs from burying female infants alive yet the Bible supports killing woman and children. Here is the evidence.

1 Samuel 15.3. "Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel din opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, fbut kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey".

Christian author George Boyd has a book called God at War wherein he tries to defend this verse by saying that infants were killed because if they grew up they may worship demons and fall into idol worship. In others words the Bible supports terrorism and Christian authors are also in support of it and try to justify it the same way ISIS does.

And what did the sheep and camels do wrong??? Wow just wow.
The Amalekites are the enemies of the Jews aka Gods chosen people, and obviously, they need to die if that's the case. Not only that, but they're the ones who started a war with the Jews. Did you even bother reading the full story? I'm tired of seeing people cherry pick verses and claim what they think it means without bothering to read the full story. The Amalekites are the symbol of EVIL. So some selected Israelites were chosen to fight against them. If they didn't fight with each other, then there'd be no justice and peace among the Israelites. EVERY Amalekite had to go. Yes, including the children and infants which I personally see no problem with, because if they were left alive, they would've grown up to be just as their parents; Evil.

And Amalekites are a tribe from ESAU, and if you take a look at my thread, I include scriptures and explain that according to those scriptures, Esau will be punished; All European countries/Asia, heck, even a lot of Israelites will suffer for their rebellion. Esau is from the bloodline of lucifer, and here you see Amalekites are a tribe from Esau meaning they're also of the bloodline of lucifer.

It's good they were destroyed. As for their property and animals, they had to go too which is also understandable because who from Gods bloodline is about to claim their wicked possessions, or let it remain? Everyone, and everything they owned had to go. Just like the wicked have to go at the end. Will their property still be somehow just fine and dandy in the end as if to be respected? Hell no.

And I won't be surprised if you reply going against this whole explanation and answers either, because it seems like you don't have the understanding. You just chose these scriptures and aligned them with your other statements according to your small percentage of understanding.
 

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The Amalekites are the enemies of the Jews aka Gods chosen people, and obviously, they need to die if that's the case. Not only that, but they're the ones who started a war with the Jews. Did you even bother reading the full story? I'm tired of seeing people cherry pick verses and claim what they think it means without bothering to read the full story. The Amalekites are the symbol of EVIL. So some selected Israelites were chosen to fight against them. If they didn't fight with each other, then there'd be no justice and peace among the Israelites. EVERY Amalekite had to go. Yes, including the children and infants which I personally see no problem with, because if they were left alive, they would've grown up to be just as their parents; Evil.

And Amalekites are a tribe from ESAU, and if you take a look at my thread, I include scriptures and explain that according to those scriptures, Esau will be punished; All European countries/Asia, heck, even a lot of Israelites will suffer for their rebellion. Esau is from the bloodline of lucifer, and here you see Amalekites are a tribe from Esau meaning they're also of the bloodline of lucifer.

It's good they were destroyed. As for their property and animals, they had to go too which is also understandable because who from Gods bloodline is about to claim their wicked possessions, or let it remain? Everyone, and everything they owned had to go. Just like the wicked have to go at the end. Will their property still be somehow just fine and dandy in the end as if to be respected? Hell no.

And I won't be surprised if you reply going against this whole explanation and answers either, because it seems like you don't have the understanding. You just chose these scriptures and aligned them with your other statements according to your small percentage of understanding.
Hold on their little lady. The Amalekites, when they were slaughtered, were slaughtered based off of what their forefathers did to them back in Egypt. Not only are you killing people for the crimes that others committed but you're also, killing babies and children who had nothing to do with the incident. Even the animals weren't spared. How can babies and children, prior to having gone through puberty, been wicked? Are we to go kill babies of people we don't like? Because that's exactly what you're saying. You're also, putting words into your own god's mouth. God doesn't say kill them because they're from the line of Lucifer but because what their forefathers did to the Israelites back in Egypt. Stop with this Esau stuff it's getting old.

There was no cherry picking here so nice try.
 

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Hold on their little lady. The Amalekites, when they were slaughtered, were slaughtered based off of what their forefathers did to them back in Egypt. Not only are you killing people for the crimes that others committed but you're also, killing babies and children who had nothing to do with the incident. Even the animals weren't spared. How can babies and children, prior to having gone through puberty, been wicked? Are we to go kill babies of people we don't like? Because that's exactly what you're saying. You're also, putting words into your own god's mouth. God doesn't say kill them because they're from the line of Lucifer but because what their forefathers did to the Israelites back in Egypt. Stop with this Esau stuff it's getting old.

There was no cherry picking here so nice try.
LittleLady thinks that all white people are going to hell for what our ancestors did, so might not be worth trying to argue with this person...
 

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LittleLady thinks that all white people are going to hell for what our ancestors did, so might not be worth trying to argue with this person...
No wonder she sees no problem with those verses. I wonder how she would feel if she was punished for the sins of her parents or grandparents or great great grandparents. Never thought I would hear someone, besides Lisa, say that killing babies is okay.
 

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LittleLady thinks that all white people are going to hell for what our ancestors did, so might not be worth trying to argue with this person...
I'm thinking whatever God and his prophets tell us in the Bible is true, because why wouldn't it be? White people are not even going to hell, you go ahead and read Isaiah Chapter 14 and tell me what you see. Hell isn't a spiritual realm, it's a situtational thing. The lake of fire is where the condemned go, which, according to God, is the place where everyone excluding the chosen Israelites are going. 2/3rds of my people are going there too for their rebellion so hey...it is what it is.

And God isn't condemning them because of their race, he's condemning them because they're of the bloodline of lucifer. Just like the Amalekites are. It's necessary to rid of evil, so that's pretty much justified. As for the rebellious Israelites, they're going because well, they weren't chosen, and they're just as rebellious as the others so...I don't know what else to say.

This is Gods word, not mine. Don't shoot the messenger.
 

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No wonder she sees no problem with those verses. I wonder how she would feel if she was punished for the sins of her parents or grandparents or great great grandparents. Never thought I would hear someone, besides Lisa, say that killing babies is okay.
I already explained why that had to happen, but you're just one of those people who like to twist words. It's either that, or you simply do not have the understanding because God didn't give it to you which means you'd really never understand what I'd have to say. Again x2, if you come from Esau, and are of the bloodline of the evil one, well...this is your earthly kingdom. Enjoy it before my people get theirs and yours will be destroyed. That's what I'd do if I knew I came from Esau. As of now, the Melanin community are suffering because every other Nation, not even just Europeans, are above my people and this earth is their kingdom. Soon enough, the tables will turn, and it's actually begun this year.
 

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I'm thinking whatever God and his prophets tell us in the Bible is true, because why wouldn't it be? White people are not even going to hell, you go ahead and read Isaiah Chapter 14 and tell me what you see. Hell isn't a spiritual realm, it's a situtational thing. The lake of fire is where the condemned go, which, according to God, is the place where everyone excluding the chosen Israelites are going. 2/3rds of my people are going there too for their rebellion so hey...it is what it is.

And God isn't condemning them because of their race, he's condemning them because they're of the bloodline of lucifer. Just like the Amalekites are. It's necessary to rid of evil, so that's pretty much justified. As for the rebellious Israelites, they're going because well, they weren't chosen, and they're just as rebellious as the others so...I don't know what else to say.

This is Gods word, not mine. Don't shoot the messenger.
The Bible is an esoteric book, without knowledge of esotericism it's quite impossible to interpret it correctly. Your interpretation of it isn't particularly more crazy than a lot of the evangelical types (like the guy on here arguing that "the golden calf" story isn't an allegory for the love of money). Sure I agree with you, us white folks have some karma to face, our ancestors did some pretty dark stuff. But "of the bloodline of lucifer" is taking it a bit far.
 

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The Bible is an esoteric book, without knowledge of esotericism it's quite impossible to interpret it correctly. Your interpretation of it isn't particularly more crazy than a lot of the evangelical types (like the guy on here arguing that "the golden calf" story isn't an allegory for the love of money). Sure I agree with you, us white folks have some karma to face, our ancestors did some pretty dark stuff. But "of the bloodline of lucifer" is taking it a bit far.
God himself refers to them as so, please take it up with him and not me.

Revelation Chapter 12 is all about the European Nations going after the chosen Israelites during the Tribulation. Mentions a woman with 12 crowns on her head (symbolic for the 12 Tribes) and it mentions "the heavens" which is what God calls his people yelling out, "The accuser has been cast down" What is the MAIN Nation that accuses another Nation out of every Nation on the face of the earth? European Nations. The contintent of Asia is more than likely right next to them. They also accuse the Melanin Nation. And who else has been cast down? Lucifer.

Genesis 3:15
God ever so STRAIGHT UP tells the SERPENT, "I will put enmity between you and the woman in bewteen your offspring and hers" Now what in the world did Cain do the Abel? He killed him. Yep. This "serpent" was actually an Edomite who procreated with Eve and as a result came Cain. THEN we see LATER she procreates with Adam, and gives birth to Abel SECOND. So Cain, coming more from this Edomites bloodline, is obviously of certain evil. Abel is more of Adams bloodline, meaning his background comes from God more so than Cain.

That right there was the first event of the enmity God put upon this Edomites bloodline, and his own bloodline. Then later, we see the story of Esau and Jacob which just confirms everything even more.

If you want to know how this serpent was actually an Edomite, check this: He is only called a serpent because it symbolizes his evil nature, and his nature is that of lucifers. The so called fruit Eve supposedly ate, is actually symolizing this Edomite mixing his seed with her seed and as a result came a fruit. (Not an actual fruit, a human obviously) And also, in Genesis Chapter 4, Cain finds a wife, and then we read that there are more people. That means God created another Nations as well.

Yes, God created good, and he created evil. This means he intentionally made lucifer and his offspring evil.

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do ALL these things."

So uh....as I said, take it up with him, not me.
 

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Revelation 2:9 "I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."

Don't white people in Israel claim they're the real Jews as of today? I think yes. But they know they aren't, which is why they call themselves Jew-ISH. Just as they also call themselves, "IsraeLI" instead of ISRAEL. How in the world did the Melanin Israelites leave Israel and come back White? See, I'm sorry, but the nature of the MAJORITY, I did NOT say all, I said MAJORITY, of your people, Shankara, are that of lucifer.


Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you." God is telling his chosen Israelites he will make these other Nations of people FROM the bloodline of lucifer acknowledge that he loves his CHOSEN ISRAELITES. HE never mentions anyone else.

Matthew 15:24 "I was NOT sent but ONLY to the house of ISRAEL."

Romans 9:13 "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I HATED"

And if you read Obadiah, according to that entire chapter, you and your people are going to be in destruction. Again, don't be mad at me.
 

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The Amalekites are the enemies of the Jews aka Gods chosen people, and obviously, they need to die if that's the case. Not only that, but they're the ones who started a war with the Jews. Did you even bother reading the full story? I'm tired of seeing people cherry pick verses and claim what they think it means without bothering to read the full story. The Amalekites are the symbol of EVIL. So some selected Israelites were chosen to fight against them. If they didn't fight with each other, then there'd be no justice and peace among the Israelites. EVERY Amalekite had to go. Yes, including the children and infants which I personally see no problem with, because if they were left alive, they would've grown up to be just as their parents; Evil.

And Amalekites are a tribe from ESAU, and if you take a look at my thread, I include scriptures and explain that according to those scriptures, Esau will be punished; All European countries/Asia, heck, even a lot of Israelites will suffer for their rebellion. Esau is from the bloodline of lucifer, and here you see Amalekites are a tribe from Esau meaning they're also of the bloodline of lucifer.

It's good they were destroyed. As for their property and animals, they had to go too which is also understandable because who from Gods bloodline is about to claim their wicked possessions, or let it remain? Everyone, and everything they owned had to go. Just like the wicked have to go at the end. Will their property still be somehow just fine and dandy in the end as if to be respected? Hell no.

And I won't be surprised if you reply going against this whole explanation and answers either, because it seems like you don't have the understanding. You just chose these scriptures and aligned them with your other statements according to your small percentage of understanding.
Yeah, I get it the Amalekites were evil but babies are innocent. What part don't you get about children being innocent? Are you telling me that the babies were evil? Also what did the camels and donkeys do wrong?
 

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The Bible is an esoteric book, without knowledge of esotericism it's quite impossible to interpret it correctly..

Jesus is easy enough to understand, he said all true Christians (black/white or any race) are saved, and all others are not.. :p

“Lord,” Martha said to Jesus, "if you had been here, my brother Lazarus would not have died.'
Jesus answered 'Whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?
She said to Him, 'Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God" (John 11:21-27)

 
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God himself refers to them as so, please take it up with him and not me.

Revelation Chapter 12 is all about the European Nations going after the chosen Israelites during the Tribulation. Mentions a woman with 12 crowns on her head (symbolic for the 12 Tribes) and it mentions "the heavens" which is what God calls his people yelling out, "The accuser has been cast down" What is the MAIN Nation that accuses another Nation out of every Nation on the face of the earth? European Nations. The contintent of Asia is more than likely right next to them. They also accuse the Melanin Nation. And who else has been cast down? Lucifer.

Genesis 3:15
God ever so STRAIGHT UP tells the SERPENT, "I will put enmity between you and the woman in bewteen your offspring and hers" Now what in the world did Cain do the Abel? He killed him. Yep. This "serpent" was actually an Edomite who procreated with Eve and as a result came Cain. THEN we see LATER she procreates with Adam, and gives birth to Abel SECOND. So Cain, coming more from this Edomites bloodline, is obviously of certain evil. Abel is more of Adams bloodline, meaning his background comes from God more so than Cain.

That right there was the first event of the enmity God put upon this Edomites bloodline, and his own bloodline. Then later, we see the story of Esau and Jacob which just confirms everything even more.

If you want to know how this serpent was actually an Edomite, check this: He is only called a serpent because it symbolizes his evil nature, and his nature is that of lucifers. The so called fruit Eve supposedly ate, is actually symolizing this Edomite mixing his seed with her seed and as a result came a fruit. (Not an actual fruit, a human obviously) And also, in Genesis Chapter 4, Cain finds a wife, and then we read that there are more people. That means God created another Nations as well.

Yes, God created good, and he created evil. This means he intentionally made lucifer and his offspring evil.

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do ALL these things."

So uh....as I said, take it up with him, not me.
Revelation 2:9 "I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."

Don't white people in Israel claim they're the real Jews as of today? I think yes. But they know they aren't, which is why they call themselves Jew-ISH. Just as they also call themselves, "IsraeLI" instead of ISRAEL. How in the world did the Melanin Israelites leave Israel and come back White? See, I'm sorry, but the nature of the MAJORITY, I did NOT say all, I said MAJORITY, of your people, Shankara, are that of lucifer.


Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you." God is telling his chosen Israelites he will make these other Nations of people FROM the bloodline of lucifer acknowledge that he loves his CHOSEN ISRAELITES. HE never mentions anyone else.

Matthew 15:24 "I was NOT sent but ONLY to the house of ISRAEL."

Romans 9:13 "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I HATED"

And if you read Obadiah, according to that entire chapter, you and your people are going to be in destruction. Again, don't be mad at me.
Did you notice that none of those verses mentioned the white race and that you just made all that stuff up?
 

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You didn't answer my question. I'll post it again to you using a different example. Person x becomes an idol worshipper now did God do that or was that person x's choice?

It’s not up to me to answer your question. You should know me by now. I allow The Most High God to speak for himself through the scriptures. That’s the problem now. It’s not my opinion or thoughts that count. You can take the scriptures or leave them. He said what he said!

Most write whole dissertations of too much of what they think. I try to keep it at 95-99% scripture. It will never be me that you are going back and forth with. You’ll be attempting to contest TMHG.
 

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It’s not up to me to answer your question. You should know me by now. I allow The Most High God to speak for himself through the scriptures. That’s the problem now. It’s not my opinion or thoughts that count. You can take the scriptures or leave them. He said what he said!

Most write whole dissertations of too much of what they think. I try to keep it at 95-99% scripture. It will never be me that you are going back and forth with. You’ll be attempting to contest TMHG.
You just admitted you can't answer the question and that you can't think for yourself.

Have fun with that.
 

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You just admitted you can't answer the question and that you can't think for yourself.

Have fun with that.
What I like about your post over the last few months is that you are this close * clutches two fingers together* to proving the Christians correctly (I’m not a Christian btw) when they say Muslims do not serve the same God. That Allah is not the same God of the Bible. Yeah I see the post about our “lazy” God who needed rest, and what type of God kill women and children. I’m noticing the mockery. Keep up the good work. Lol.

As far as your comment, think what you will. If you can’t understand that it does not matter what I say or think and that it only matters what TMHG says then so be it.
 
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