Would you date a broke man?

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Kung Fu

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There are many reasons, which I've already expanded on that in my previous posts.
Whatever you say :rolleyes:

I also listed most of the child rearing and emotional labor which you conveniently ignored but can't be overlooked.
I didn't ignore it I just missed it. Like I said in this day and age both parents pitch in. I take care of my daughter just as much as my wife does and I think most of the men in the West do because both parents work. Also, if you're sitting at home all day you better be doing something so I don't know why you even would bring it up like it's something dreadful you have to do.


And I didn't say I would become entirely dependant on a man's income. Just that I don't think women should settle for broke men or men who earn less. And honestly my chance for a rich husband (if I wanted one, but I don't) are rather slim. Like someone said on reddit, I have too strong opinions.
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That's exactly what you mean when you talk about a man making more than you. You want to leech off of him while wanting to do nothing yourself but that's not how life works. If you can't settle than good luck on finding anyone lol.

The reddit post is correct. If you want a man that makes more than you and can take care of you financially than you better have some qualities of value otherwise he can, like I said before, hire a maid.

Your problem is you want everything. You want feminism, you want your cake, and you want a rich man. Well sorry to break it to you but that's never going to happen. No successful well off men who holds some kind of status in society is going to want a woman like that and never will.
 

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Whatever you say :rolleyes:
Come on, the reason is simple: there are fewer rich women. I've already mentionned the wage gap, the fact that men have more access to jobs especially high-earning jobs and leadership positions, which makes it easier for them to have a lot of money. Because if you hadn't noticed we live in a male dominated society. So it's fucking comical to me that men still manage to be broke with all their male privilege.

I didn't ignore it I just missed it. Like I said in this day and age both parents pitch in. I take care of my daughter just as much as my wife does and I think most of the men in the West do because both parents work. Also, if you're sitting at home all day you better be doing something so I don't know why you even would bring it up like it's something dreadful you have to do.




That's exactly what you mean when you talk about a man making more than you. You want to leech off of him while wanting to do nothing yourself but that's not how life works. If you can't settle than good luck on finding anyone lol.

The reddit post is correct. If you want a man that makes more than you and can take care of you financially than you better have some qualities of value otherwise he can, like I said before, hire a maid.

Your problem is you want everything. You want feminism, you want your cake, and you want a rich man. Well sorry to break it to you but that's never going to happen. No successful well off men who holds some kind of status in society is going to want a woman like that and never will.
You know someone can make more than me without being rich.
I'm a student and still manage to work part-time, my boss is always commending me for my work ethic. I'm on my way to get a degree in a field where there are many jobs available. I most certainly won't be broke or sit at home all day. Please don't use that patronizing tone with me as if you're gonna teach me how life works or something.
I'm done with this convo, have a nice day.
 

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Come on, the reason is simple: there are fewer rich women. I've already mentionned the wage gap, the fact that men have more access to jobs especially high-earning jobs and leadership positions, which makes it easier for them to have a lot of money. Because if you hadn't noticed we live in a male dominated society. So it's fucking comical to me that men still manage to be broke with all their male privilege.
The wage gap has been debunked by many scholars. There are fewer rich women for several reasons. They work shorter hours than their male counterparts, they don't occupy higher end paying jobs (engineering, software programming, and etc.), and because of biology such as maternity leave. Careful your hypocrisy is showing again. You're talking about a male dominated society in regards to jobs and money but yet want to continue the patriarchy by wanting to be with a man that makes more than you. Collect your thoughts first and then come back to me.

You know someone can make more than me without being rich.
I'm a student and still manage to work part-time, my boss is always commending me for my work ethic. I'm on my way to get a degree in a field where there are many jobs available. I most certainly won't be broke or sit at home all day. Please don't use that patronizing tone with me as if you're gonna teach me how life works or something.
I'm done with this convo, have a nice day.
So what you work part time? Is that supposed to be an accomplishment? I went to school full time, worked 30 hours a week, competed in various combat sports, and still managed to graduate with a 4.0 gpa. But that's not because I'm special but because I worked hard for it. If you're not majoring in STEM you might be jobless for a while ;)
 

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So what you work part time? Is that supposed to be an accomplishment? I went to school full time, worked 30 hours a week, competed in various combat sports, and still managed to graduate with a 4.0 gpa. But that's not because I'm special but because I worked hard for it. If you're not majoring in STEM you might be jobless for a while ;)
lol...I was responding to your claim that I was sitting at home all day. No need to post your life story no one cares.

if you're not a broke man why are u that triggered by this thread?
 
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lol...I was responding to your claim that I was sitting at home all day. No need to post your life story no one cares.

if you're not a broke man why are u that triggered by this thread?
Im not triggered. I'm pointing out your hypocrisy because you're too slow to see it yourself. You cry about a patriarchal society but yet want a man that makes more than you lol. Make up your mind already.

If anything it seems like you're the one who is butthurt. Instead of crying about men in every thread go do something productive and then you might attract a man of stature and status lol.
 

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It's always the elites fault tough. Men have always claimed to be the providers so they gotta deliver if they want to be resepected and taken seriously. Not being able to provide renders men obsolete.
Exactly.
I think obsolescence was the point, morita. And what a horrible world that would be. It is not just a claim, though-- more like hard wiring. Of course, the other extreme-- though it would look very different-- would be equally horrible. Each one has a different primary motive, which is kind of useless or meaningless, without the other.

Personal accountability is huge-- I agree with you, there. But when the entire landscape has been (cleverly and completely) engineered to look and encourage otherwise, it is more difficult to define exactly what personal accountability means--> that is, they (and we) are set up for failure. Imho, anyway.
 

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Im not triggered. I'm pointing out your hypocrisy because you're too slow to see it yourself. You cry about a patriarchal society but yet want a man that makes more than you lol. Make up your mind already.

If anything it seems like you're the one who is butthurt. Instead of crying about men in every thread go do something productive and then you might attract a man of stature and status lol.
You do sound triggered. You sound as if you have somethign to prove.
So what if I wouldn't settle with a man who makes less?? I'm just someone on the internet saying things. Would that make you feel better if I said I would settle for some broke loser, is that what going against the patriarchy means?
Men should be happy we value them for anything. Money is the only thing they can bring to the table.
Alas, women are more than happy to have some useless prick around the house who doesn't contribute shit.
 

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You do sound triggered. You sound as if you have somethign to prove.
So what if I wouldn't settle with a man who makes less?? I'm just someone on the internet saying things. Would that make you feel better if I said I would settle for some broke loser, is that what going against the patriarchy means?
Men should be happy we value them for anything. Money is the only thing they can bring to the table.
Alas, women are more than happy to have some useless prick around the house who doesn't contribute shit.
Exactly you're just another hypocrite on the internet that can't get their thoughts straight.

Men of status and who are worth something will decide YOUR value. Don't get it twisted. Either you bring something to the table or he hires a maid.
 

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Interesting! I've made that suggestion, myself.

It seems, though, like you are you are saying a woman should bring something to the table, or-- you're going to find someone else to do your laundry?

lol I wouldn't suggest that
No one likes a tease.

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LMAO!
 

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Kung fu is pretty dead on.
Wealthy guys have an abundance of options....
Why on Gods green earth would they pick an unpleasant, defensive, and angry woman who despises their sex to pair with?
I mean they have the options of choosing beautiful, pleasant, and/or subordinate women who satisfy their emotional and sexual needs.
As misogynistic as that is, its just the power of wealth.
Don't underestimate the power of a beautiful woman, either.
She's got tremendous advantages over the regular, average, woman.
And combine looks with brains, she's a force to be reckoned with!
A woman with brains and beauty doesn't need a man to succeed in life. If she is clever enough, navigating the terrain of patriarchal society isn't that challenging. She knows how to wield her power when needed, and how to play her cards accordingly.
Any beautiful successful woman I've observed, knows it.
That, in itself, is power.
Pretty much this. What Morita doesn't understand is that men who have even a little bit of wealth and other desirable traits that women find appealing don't have to settle for anything. If you as a woman want a man that makes more than you and who can take care of you financially you need to have something he wants other than being able to wash dishes and do the laundry.

The real issue here is the hypocrisy. Morita talks about how disgusting and unfair patriarchal society is but reinforces the patriarchy by wanting a man who makes more. I'm just confused as I don't know what she really wants. Does she hate patriarchy or does she subconsciously like the patriarchy lol.
 

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Are you a woman? If not, don't know what it's like to live in a patriarchal society as a woman.
Lol. But yet you want a man who makes more, which is what the patriarchy reinforces. I think you're a confused woman who doesn't know what she wants.
 

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Incidentally I've cancelled my membership of that dating site I mentioned in VC earlier this year beacuse 99% of the women were dimwits, most were divorced rejects who'd completely lost their grip on reality and the things that matter most in life.
Every one without exception said they wanted a man to take them out wining and dining, cinema, theatre, dancing, travel etc but NONE of them said they were lonely and wanted a man to care for and be cared for by..
 

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Incidentally I've cancelled my membership of that dating site I mentioned in VC earlier this year beacuse 99% of the women were dimwits, most were divorced rejects who'd completely lost their grip on reality and the things that matter most in life.
Every one without exception said they wanted a man to take them out wining and dining, cinema, theatre, dancing, travel etc but NONE of them said they were lonely and wanted a man to care for and be cared for by..
Be patient. God willing something good for you will come your way. Don't give up.
 

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Incidentally in that dating site, some women openly stated in their adverts that they were looking for a "solvent" man.
I wonder if any bloke was dumb enough to take up with gold-diggers like them?..;)
 
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