BTS discussion thread

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I wouldn't be so quick to discard the idea that they are no longer puppets/were puppets to begin with.
With their stake in BigHit, Bang has cleverly made them directly responsible and accountable for the company's profits. BigHit rides on BTS' $$$ so if they are unsuccessful, the members' individual networth in shares will drop too.
I'm afraid this is to keep pushing them to go on to scale higher heights of success - this seals them in real deep and it's very frightening.

On the surface, it could just be things like avoiding scandals (romantic/car accidents/being rude/offending fans in some way), but behind the scenes, it could mean more sacrifice (in the literal sense!!) and slavery to Bang Si Hyuk/the mega powerful people who back him up.
maybe you are right, b@ng p_d made these contracts so that they will stay for the rest of their life with b!g_heat. It is really sad.
 

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Guys, I know this has nothing to do with the thread, well kind of. This has something to do with sumbliminals and predictions in the music of certain artists because we keep seeing sublte hints from B_Ts about Jin's possible future.

The artist I'm going to talk about is The Weeknd. There's this one particular song called "Ordinary Life" and he literally tells his fans that he sold his soul for the fame and he's going to die when he is young. Here's some snippets of the lyrics.

Like I'm James Dean, I'ma die when I'm young
Die when I'm young, die when I'm young

Heaven knows that I've been told
Paid for the life that I chose
If I could, I'd trade it all
Trade it for a halo

Over 45, I'ma drift on a bend
Do a buck 20, I'ma fly off the edge
Everybody said it would hurt in the end
Hurt in the end, but I feel nothin

Angels all singin' in monasteries, yeah
My soul is burning in LaFerraris
Father, sorry, father, sorry
Halos are given to ordinary lives
No, but this ain't ordinary life


Like how much more obvious can you get? You can give singers artistic license for their lyrics of course. But this song isn't even artistic anymore. It's literally him telling people that he's going to die young. People are saying that he's going to die in a car accident based on this song, I don't know. I hope not. I hope that he repents and finds redemption. But at least he admits it to himself and his fans and doesn't pretend to be something that he is not, unlike certain people *cough* Bt_s *cough*.

I'm putting this in the thread so that people realize that subliminals and predictions are nothing new and should be taken seriously. So this whole excluding Jin from certain pictures, videos etc might just be a way to prepare fans for something. What that "something" is, I don't know. We'll have to see.

 

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You are so sweet somewhat_yuna! Thank you :) Looking forward to it all ~

On the topic of the deep web, like a lot here I have to say I felt sick from just reading about what others have seen. The average person would not be able to comprehend the depravity of how sinful human behaviour can get. Because of this extremity, I think that's why things get written off as ridiculous/nonsense (such as so-called conspiracy theories). I contradict myself even as I utter "I can't believe they would do that to kpop idols". It makes the Burning Sun scandal seem so 'normal' in comparison (but BOTH are disgusting...I haven't taken time to ponder any links there might be though). :((((

Were those recent/current threads you had come across?

Welcome newbie. Hope we can all be friends.
 

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Guys, I know this has nothing to do with the thread, well kind of. This has something to do with sumbliminals and predictions in the music of certain artists because we keep seeing sublte hints from B_Ts about Jin's possible future.

The artist I'm going to talk about is The Weeknd. There's this one particular song called "Ordinary Life" and he literally tells his fans that he sold his soul for the fame and he's going to die when he is young. Here's some snippets of the lyrics.

Like I'm James Dean, I'ma die when I'm young
Die when I'm young, die when I'm young

Heaven knows that I've been told
Paid for the life that I chose
If I could, I'd trade it all
Trade it for a halo

Over 45, I'ma drift on a bend
Do a buck 20, I'ma fly off the edge
Everybody said it would hurt in the end
Hurt in the end, but I feel nothin

Angels all singin' in monasteries, yeah
My soul is burning in LaFerraris
Father, sorry, father, sorry
Halos are given to ordinary lives
No, but this ain't ordinary life


Like how much more obvious can you get? You can give singers artistic license for their lyrics of course. But this song isn't even artistic anymore. It's literally him telling people that he's going to die young. People are saying that he's going to die in a car accident based on this song, I don't know. I hope not. I hope that he repents and finds redemption. But at least he admits it to himself and his fans and doesn't pretend to be something that he is not, unlike certain people *cough* Bt_s *cough*.

I'm putting this in the thread so that people realize that subliminals and predictions are nothing new and should be taken seriously. So this whole excluding Jin from certain pictures, videos etc might just be a way to prepare fans for something. What that "something" is, I don't know. We'll have to see.

There is a video on youtube about 8 artists who predicted their death in their songs...The weekend lyrics reminds me Jimi hendrix lyrics...
I don't remember where i read this but someone said that in The weekend song (not the song linked here)there is Chadwick boseman death prediction
 
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Hi everyone! New here in VC forums but have been an avid reader for over a decade - recently became an obsessed ARMY when first exposed to Dynamite (just because it was trending and I thought why not), and discovered the plethora of videos available around them (Bangtan Universe, I gather?). Got really drawn into their personalities and humour/interactions and hadn't actually thought to watch their MVs until a friend of mine told me Blood Sweat and Tears was their best era and to check it out.
The moment the video began I felt so uncomfortable (and I guess everything I was familiar with from trawling VC came rushing to my mind and it went into serious symbol-spotting mode) and knew they probably weren't as cheery or innocent behind the scenes.
To be honest, my Kpop fangirling days were coming to an end shortly before BTS debuted, because I had just commenced a job with incredibly long hours and just didn't have the time to invest. I assumed they were just another rookie band which would last a few more years in the cutthroat idol industry but when I started hearing and seeing things about how big they were getting, it was a little suspicious - maybe because of the magnitude and the speed..?

Anyway, I immediately started checking out their other MVs and noticed all the symbolism that really didn't sit well at all within me. (I think the second one was Idol - the multiple gaudy-toned clones made me feel nauseous). Aside from the fact that BTS is insanely popular, I can also understand how this thread has been able to thrive for so long, with all that material filled with stuff to dissect. A part of me wishes I could have participated much earlier, but I think at the same time it is very sad - for an ARMY especially - to see what they are descending to.

I am thankfully no longer addicted (it was a short couple of weeks), but I guess still keen to follow on here. Thanks so much for all your insights! Hope to be able to contribute too.

Sorry I don't know how to quote a full post properly - but this is in relation to BTS members having a stake in the company's shareholdings:


I wouldn't be so quick to discard the idea that they are no longer puppets/were puppets to begin with.
With their stake in BigHit, Bang has cleverly made them directly responsible and accountable for the company's profits. BigHit rides on BTS' $$$ so if they are unsuccessful, the members' individual networth in shares will drop too.
I'm afraid this is to keep pushing them to go on to scale higher heights of success - this seals them in real deep and it's very frightening.

On the surface, it could just be things like avoiding scandals (romantic/car accidents/being rude/offending fans in some way), but behind the scenes, it could mean more sacrifice (in the literal sense!!) and slavery to Bang Si Hyuk/the mega powerful people who back him up.

I feel so sad thinking about it - they've even postponed Jin's army enlistment date. It would be great news for majority of ARMY fans, but what does this actually mean? To have achieved this outcome, months of admin/debilitation/negotiation would have been involved. This was all timed to coincide with their IPO listing because they knew they would need BTS to keep the $$$ rolling in. It would have been too risky to have one leave. I don't know how Jin feels about that tbh (maybe actual army would have been a way of escape from the toxic environment right now, and seriously he would be well past the legal requirement by then for the deadline to enrol - it’s a big deal to have gotten this delay in S. Korea as I understand they are very strict re national service) but he isn't looking too happy these days, other things might be going on, who knows. It just seems the company is really stretching them and making sure they know who is the true boss controlling everything.

Sorry for the long first post, thanks for putting up with it!
Love love love love ur post darling! Love ittttttt
 
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Hi everyone! New here in VC forums but have been an avid reader for over a decade - recently became an obsessed ARMY when first exposed to Dynamite (just because it was trending and I thought why not), and discovered the plethora of videos available around them (Bangtan Universe, I gather?). Got really drawn into their personalities and humour/interactions and hadn't actually thought to watch their MVs until a friend of mine told me Blood Sweat and Tears was their best era and to check it out.
The moment the video began I felt so uncomfortable (and I guess everything I was familiar with from trawling VC came rushing to my mind and it went into serious symbol-spotting mode) and knew they probably weren't as cheery or innocent behind the scenes.
To be honest, my Kpop fangirling days were coming to an end shortly before BTS debuted, because I had just commenced a job with incredibly long hours and just didn't have the time to invest. I assumed they were just another rookie band which would last a few more years in the cutthroat idol industry but when I started hearing and seeing things about how big they were getting, it was a little suspicious - maybe because of the magnitude and the speed..?

Anyway, I immediately started checking out their other MVs and noticed all the symbolism that really didn't sit well at all within me. (I think the second one was Idol - the multiple gaudy-toned clones made me feel nauseous). Aside from the fact that BTS is insanely popular, I can also understand how this thread has been able to thrive for so long, with all that material filled with stuff to dissect. A part of me wishes I could have participated much earlier, but I think at the same time it is very sad - for an ARMY especially - to see what they are descending to.

I am thankfully no longer addicted (it was a short couple of weeks), but I guess still keen to follow on here. Thanks so much for all your insights! Hope to be able to contribute too.

Sorry I don't know how to quote a full post properly - but this is in relation to BTS members having a stake in the company's shareholdings:


I wouldn't be so quick to discard the idea that they are no longer puppets/were puppets to begin with.
With their stake in BigHit, Bang has cleverly made them directly responsible and accountable for the company's profits. BigHit rides on BTS' $$$ so if they are unsuccessful, the members' individual networth in shares will drop too.
I'm afraid this is to keep pushing them to go on to scale higher heights of success - this seals them in real deep and it's very frightening.

On the surface, it could just be things like avoiding scandals (romantic/car accidents/being rude/offending fans in some way), but behind the scenes, it could mean more sacrifice (in the literal sense!!) and slavery to Bang Si Hyuk/the mega powerful people who back him up.

I feel so sad thinking about it - they've even postponed Jin's army enlistment date. It would be great news for majority of ARMY fans, but what does this actually mean? To have achieved this outcome, months of admin/debilitation/negotiation would have been involved. This was all timed to coincide with their IPO listing because they knew they would need BTS to keep the $$$ rolling in. It would have been too risky to have one leave. I don't know how Jin feels about that tbh (maybe actual army would have been a way of escape from the toxic environment right now, and seriously he would be well past the legal requirement by then for the deadline to enrol - it’s a big deal to have gotten this delay in S. Korea as I understand they are very strict re national service) but he isn't looking too happy these days, other things might be going on, who knows. It just seems the company is really stretching them and making sure they know who is the true boss controlling everything.

Sorry for the long first post, thanks for putting up with it!
Hiii... I absolutely love when we have new people here... this forum is really becoming a community :) I am really look looking forward to your posts and your views on certain matters

I've literally never heard this bs song on the radio once. I thought stream farms were illegal ???
What a load of crap... the song is pure shambles. I don’t understand a word they’re saying without subtitles and the lyrics make absolutely no sense and have no relevancy to anything apart from p***philia and it’s like it’s made in a sweet factory (we call candy, sweets in the U.K.) even they look manufactured. It’s so boring I honestly don’t understand why people stream it when so many army don’t even like it.
 
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Hiii... I absolutely love when we have new people here... this forum is really becoming a community :) I am really look looking forward to your posts and your views on certain matters

What a load of crap... the song is pure shambles. I don’t understand a word they’re saying without subtitles and the lyrics make absolutely no sense and have no relevancy to anything apart from p***philia and it’s like it’s made in a sweet factory (we call candy, sweets in the U.K.) even they look manufactured. It’s so boring I honestly don’t understand why people stream it when so many army don’t even like it.
U know whats SAD AF. dynamite grew on me. Argggghhh
 

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I watched VMA's and all it was is scripted corona warnings, symbols and politics propaganda. I looked at the comments and I was shocked, how can you be so bored that you worship these sad people. The fans souls have been taken by these energy vampires, long gone. I think we should all get out of it while we can. The performance was weak (suit outfits are really boring, same) No new hair colors really, not the same bangtan. Well I couldn't stand RM's accent and he's giving me bad guy vibes. Let's say they clearly sold their soul with the devil. RM is far too into carl jung to not know about the avici (underground buddhist hell) or satanic occults black magic spells.

I see a dark future, our lives are going downhill, it worries me. A ton of education is ruined. I only hope this isn't the next plague. The virus brings everyone apart. The least I would wanna say is 'Wear masks' :(

On BTS' MTV stage, and a few others, there was fake crowds and really bad green screen. I felt like we're all being forced to like it, it reminds me of times during WW2, It was like it was the only entertainment left, like we rely on it. We can't visit cinemas or concerts, so we're stuck at home with this. We're kinda forced to like it, but ever since types of lockdowns, we're all waiting on something new. But this demonic spirit is all we have. It's like we're trapped behind screens stuck in our houses.

 
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I watched VMA's and all it was is scripted corona warnings, symbols and politics propaganda. I looked at the comments and I was shocked, how can you be so bored that you worship these sad people. The fans souls have been taken by these energy vampires, long gone. I think we should all get out of it while we can. The performance was weak (suit outfits are really boring, same) No new hair colors really, not the same bangtan. Well I couldn't stand RM's accent and he's giving me bad guy vibes. Let's say they clearly sold their soul with the devil. RM is far too into carl jung to not know about the avici (underground buddhist hell) or satanic occults black magic spells.

I see a dark future, our lives are going downhill, it worries me. A ton of education is ruined. I only hope this isn't the next plague. The virus brings everyone apart. The least I would wanna say is 'Wear masks' :(

On BTS' MTV stage, and a few others, there was fake crowds and really bad green screen. I felt like we're all being forced to like it, it reminds me of times during WW2, It was like it was the only entertainment left, like we rely on it. We can't visit cinemas or concerts, so we're stuck at home with this. We're kinda forced to like it, but ever since types of lockdowns, we're all waiting on something new. But this demonic spirit is all we have. It's like we're trapped behind screens stuck in our houses.

You are really on point with what u are saying here. Okay I actually dont watch tv and listen to the radio and all that stuff. But the world is rapidly declining. My country is becoming one bigger pile of cat shit(cause thats the worst type of shit iv come across lol) as the days go by its really sad. Im looking around and its just SO SAD. BTS are just an evil disease used on the souls of unsuspecting civilians who cant see that they are being manipulated by demonic forces. Sigh.
 
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1. Topic on how to safely fuck a toddler without ruining its insides.

Will spill some more names soon.
Pls dont tell us that stuff im already wanting to cry just reading that. May God help all the children Ya Allah I cant deal with this. I honestly sometimes more often than not wish for this world to end now, just so that all these crimes against children can stop right now. Ill take my judgement, just so that the children can be saved
 
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Pls dont tell us that stuff im already wanting to cry just reading that. May God help all the children Ya Allah I cant deal with this. I honestly sometimes more often than not wish for this world to end now, just so that all these crimes against children can stop right now. Ill take my judgement, just so that the children can be saved
Alrighty! Sorry, please don't cry. I will try ym best not to spill disturbing things.
 

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Not only bts but kpop related...i want to do a consideration about kpop...this world is very fake...idols pretend to be loved supported...they told that they needs true support and appreciation..but then who are the fans most prefered by them??The obsessive,toxic and not the fans who cares about them in a right way and try to understand how they really are.These people are excluded and the idols prefer gave their time to others types of fans.The things are two:they are liars and they only care to money...or they are masochist and prefers people who could hurt them and that make feel them at disease and lonely.It is their choice...it is normal that their life is horrible and they feel lonely...a beautiful comment done by toxic fans enriches the ego...but a real deep comment enriches the soul...they choosed the wrong path...they hurt people with their lies about perfection/no mistakes and people feels not good because compared to them they feel like garbage...and they have no strenght to explain how things really are...what they do for their fans?Selling their albums?Brainwashing people?This is their business...
But really what they did to encourage people to be themselves to enrich their heart,their soul and have a good life?Who really left a message strong and sincere??I see only a lot of ego gaslighting and bull***ts
 
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Hiii... I absolutely love when we have new people here... this forum is really becoming a community :) I am really look looking forward to your posts and your views on certain matters

What a load of crap... the song is pure shambles. I don’t understand a word they’re saying without subtitles and the lyrics make absolutely no sense and have no relevancy to anything apart from p***philia and it’s like it’s made in a sweet factory (we call candy, sweets in the U.K.) even they look manufactured. It’s so boring I honestly don’t understand why people stream it when so many army don’t even like it.
We all dislike Bts here but it not okay to make fun of their accents while speaking English
 
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