The 45 Communist goals for America

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It was Jan. 10, 1963, that Congressman Albert S. Herlong. Jr. from Florida read the list of 45 Communist goals for America into the Congressional Record. The purpose of him reading this was to gain insight into liberal elite ideas and strategies for America that sound awfully familiar today. The list is attributed to Cleon Skousen, researcher and author of "The Naked Communist." I was wondering how far along people perceived society was towards the furtherance of these goals?

Here's the list:

1. U.S. should accept coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. should be willing to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the U.S. would be a demonstration of "moral strength."

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extend long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China and admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the U.S. has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations that are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24.Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural and healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"
Replacing belief in the creator with belief in the earthly man-controlled State.

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
Turn America into a socialist police state.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the U.S. cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
 

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P.s. J.D. Farag unpacks a number of those goals here, as several of them seem to be reaching fruition....

 

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As a Christian..shouldn’t you be espousing what the Bible says instead?
There is quite an overlap between the various cultural goals expressed all those years ago and what you might term a biblical “end game”. I don’t think it is unchristian to have an awareness of the world, or the cultural forces people are living under.

hint - watch the video ;-)
 

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There is quite an overlap between the various cultural goals expressed all those years ago and what you might term a biblical “end game”. I don’t think it is unchristian to have an awareness of the world, or the cultural forces people are living under.

hint - watch the video ;-)
It is if you want to give the wrong side the power.
 

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It is if you want to give the wrong side the power.
Not at all. People just need to wake up and smell the coffee.

2 Thessalonians 2:7-9 King James Version (KJV)
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
 

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Not at all. People just need to wake up and smell the coffee.

2 Thessalonians 2:7-9 King James Version (KJV)
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
What does that scripture have to do with your thread? I don’t get it.
 

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What does that scripture have to do with your thread? I don’t get it.
Another clue then...

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12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Discerning evil intents in the above 45 points does not automatically mean they have all the power. Military strategists take stock of enemy positions and frontlines when planning their counter-attacks. I’m sure you know this.
 

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Another clue then...

He

12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Discerning evil intents in the above 45 points does not automatically mean they have all the power. Military strategists take stock of enemy positions and frontlines when planning their counter-attacks. I’m sure you know this.
I think that only works when you discern it from the point of scripture. It doesn’t really matter what the enemy thinks he can do it only matters what God says he will do...and to get that..one must rely on the Bible.
 

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I think that only works when you discern it from the point of scripture. It doesn’t really matter what the enemy thinks he can do it only matters what God says he will do...and to get that..one must rely on the Bible.
I agree. As many people lack a good biblical knowledge, they will not connect the objectives of the various “agendas” with the revealed ultimate fruitions of such things. Some agenda items may fail, others may one day bear fruit. Most people are asleep and make no connection between unfolding world events and Bible prophecy. As with most sleepers though, they will only wake up when they are ready, and attempts to rouse them against their will usually results in negative interactions!
 

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I agree. As many people lack a good biblical knowledge, they will not connect the objectives of the various “agendas” with the revealed ultimate fruitions of such things. Some agenda items may fail, others may one day bear fruit. Most people are asleep and make no connection between unfolding world events and Bible prophecy. As with most sleepers though, they will only wake up when they are ready, and attempts to rouse them against their will usually results in negative interactions!
My point was that you should be coming from a Biblical pov, instead of the opposite one.
 

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My point was that you should be coming from a Biblical pov, instead of the opposite one.
Lisa. I think you need to rethink your interactions with people. Don’t always presume to know the motivations for other people’s posts. Telling others what their “real” motivations are is usually a mistake.

Paul talked with the Greeks on Mars Hill entirely out of their own world view. At present, many people are aware of the social upheavals going on in the world. As BLM has a communist heart to it, these underlying trends are significant. Sometimes you have to meet people where they are at. Whilst it would be great if more people understood what the Bible clearly teaches, they come to sites like this with a variety of world views. Some may be instantly open to biblical discussions, others may not be ready to consider it yet.

Btw, I don’t say this with malice.
 

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Lisa. I think you need to rethink your interactions with people. Don’t always presume to know the motivations for other people’s posts. Telling others what their “real” motivations are is usually a mistake.

Paul talked with the Greeks on Mars Hill entirely out of their own world view. At present, many people are aware of the social upheavals going on in the world. As BLM has a communist heart to it, these underlying trends are significant. Sometimes you have to meet people where they are at. Whilst it would be great if more people understood what the Bible clearly teaches, they come to sites like this with a variety of world views. Some may be instantly open to biblical discussions, others may not be ready to consider it yet.

Btw, I don’t say this with malice.
I didn’t think you responded with malice we are just having a conversation.

So..you’re trying to talk their lingo to get them to listen to you?
 

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I didn’t think you responded with malice we are just having a conversation.

So..you’re trying to talk their lingo to get them to listen to you?
I have had a lot of conversations with people over the years and I have often found that meeting people where they are at is the most important thing. If people feel misunderstood or misrepresented, they become angry and closed off. The tragedy then becomes that the louder you shout, the less they hear. I have made plenty of mistakes over the years I have been a Christian and have learned from some of them.
 

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I have had a lot of conversations with people over the years and I have often found that meeting people where they are at is the most important thing. If people feel misunderstood or misrepresented, they become angry and closed off. The tragedy then becomes that the louder you shout, the less they hear. I have made plenty of mistakes over the years I have been a Christian and have learned from some of them.
When then do you start to tell them the truth..and then would that be going backwards? Would they then think they were had?
 

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When then do you start to tell them the truth..and then would that be going backwards? Would they then think they were had?
There are things people already know to be true. There are things people can realise are true. I did my first degree in an evolutionary subject. I shared a common understanding of scientific method with the people on my course and it was the method itself that proved the point of connection, and the thing that ultimately undermines the theory.

I found this quote by Johnny Cash and I love it...

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There are things people already know to be true. There are things people can realise are true. I did my first degree in an evolutionary subject. I shared a common understanding of scientific method with the people on my course and it was the method itself that proved the point of connection, and the thing that ultimately undermines the theory.

I found this quote by Johnny Cash and I love it...

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They can’t end up at Jesus unless they are preached Jesus..
 
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