George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

Hon33

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And of course, his family and friends would all be complicit and compliant?
Sure if the payoff was big enough. Obviously he was not a model citizen before this happened. Why would it be a stretch to think his family and close friends could be complicit in the hoax?
 

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Not saying I believe it yet, but it wouldn't be totally surprising if George Floyd was a crisis actor and they whole thing is a hoax / false flag to incite the riots, etc....

@polymoog brought that up days ago. I’m not sure that wasn’t what went on..for more disruption that trump has to deal with. Crisis upon crisis to make him look bad..but then again..who thinks biden could do better or even handle any of this?
 

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This. Is. Not. The. Left. For the millionth freaking time. There’s how many videos of cops agitating? How many videos of white supremacists dresses as Antifa or themselves starting shit? How much proof do you need?

my country is in the midst of a fascist takeover and all you fools keep banging on about the left. The left isn’t doing this. There is zero logic to that statement and mounds of evidence against it. But cheetoh in charge tweets some very convenient political messaging and you all fall in line.
So there is absolutely no way the dems would use this to their political advantage...just like they didn't politicize covid. Dems aren't going to save this country or planet, not Cheeto, NEITHER will the Republicans. People who can rationalize with each other and look at different perspectives will. Blaming "the other side" won't solve it either.

How does their koolaid taste?
Not surprised if your income check comes from the DNC lmao
 
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I don't like getting caught in minor issues though. What I think matters about this ordeal-
-The establishment wanted this, and has been working to create it
-The establishment escalated it and allowed it to happen
-The establishment wants racial division.

- There are uncanny parallels to the communist take overs. Not meaning that this is communism, but that is the method of creating a totalitarian regime that WORKS and that will LAST.
-Seeing people turn in their parents for not agreeing with the protestors online, seeing people post the most absurd and anti-reality claims for virtue points, people that use reason are deemed as dangerous, hateful, not joining in is considered an act of violence
-The high upper class inciting the lower and middle class against each other is what communism was, it worked through emotionally driven, violent and dehumanizing revolutionary rhetoric.
-It's hard for us to imagine because of the different cultures but if you were in China or Russia in 1957/1917, these are the things you would be seeing
 

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Sure if the payoff was big enough. Obviously he was not a model citizen before this happened. Why would it be a stretch to think his family and close friends could be complicit in the hoax?
Your assertion rather undermines the fact a man has died. I mean, if we just put it all down to crisis acting, there’s no need to accept what actually happened. It’s all much more sanitary, isn’t it?
 

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At this point in time, it pretty much looks like the guy who murdered him is a criminal as well.
Nah mate, he deserves a medal for taking out a useless violent parasite.
In WW2 we took out the Japs and Nazis too because they were threatening our peace and security..:)
 

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Really? Because during one this is happening

You don't think it would be hard to be objective in that situation? What do you think would happen to their office if they found he died from heart complications and drugs?
Yeah, I'm not sure how favorable your position is. First of all, it's kind of like gambling over whether someone can or can't be objective. Or if the riot might toast them. Of course, that clearly raises a lot of other problems, especially to how that argument could be applied in a broader context.

If I could reiterate my own position real quick. My argument is that Baden's bias doesn't seem obvious in any way. His conclusion matches the video evidence. And that his record of solving problems speaks for itself. If you can find some good examples where an independent autopsy or even any second autopsy was worse than the first, I will reconsider.

You can't crush someone to death and blame their poor health. Come on man.
 
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Yeah, I'm not sure how favorable your position is. First of all, it's kind of like gambling over whether someone can or can't be objective. Or if the riot might toast them. Of course, that clearly raises a lot of other problems, especially to how that argument could be applied in a broader context.

If I could reiterate my own position real quick. My argument is that Baden's bias doesn't seem obvious in any way. His conclusion matches the video evidence. And that his record of solving problems speaks for itself. If you can find some good examples where an independent autopsy or even any second autopsy was worse than the first, I will reconsider.

You can't crush someone to death and blame their poor health. Come on man.
Your opinion is valid. I’m not saying you’re wrong just asking questions. Again I think issues like this are less important than the big picture. There was two contradicting autopsies, one to validate “both sides” so big picture it just adds to the division is all. I’m not trying to play into that
 
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the elites are trying to limit and control these protests to make it about George Floyd.

I really hope that people will understand that not only is this much bigger than George Floyd, but it is also much bigger than "blacklivesmatter"

this is about racist corrupt cops, and the police state sure (as I am sure many peaceful protesters have discovered)

but this is about the very system that this police state protects

where corporations can loot trillions
billionaires can get trillions in tax breaks
wealth inequality
paracitic banking
systematic racism
prison industrial complex
military industrial complex and foreign wars
medical tyranny
surveillance tyranny
opposition to fascism

I really hope that people can look beyond the sloganism of George Floyd and #blacklivesmatter because in the end just chanting those things will not achieve shit. This moment needs to be properly channelled or else it will just fizzle out into nothing. I think the media wants us to keep this simple, and about one man, or one issue, when all of those issues I listed above are all connected.

I thought a big part of the Covid lockdown and the "social distancing" was to stop people from protesting and talking amongst each other to organize, I was certain this was the case, and still am to a degree.

But now everybody has been brought together and are talking openly in the streets.

This part of the whole thing I find confusing.
 
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the elites are trying to limit and control these protests to make it about George Floyd.

I really hope that people will understand that not only is this much bigger than George Floyd, but it is also much bigger than "blacklivesmatter"

this is about racist corrupt cops, and the police state sure (as I am sure many peaceful protesters have discovered)

but this is about the very system that this police state protects

where corporations can loot trillions
billionaires can get trillions in tax breaks
wealth inequality
paracitic banking
systematic racism
prison industrial complex
military industrial complex and foreign wars
medical tyranny
surveillance tyranny
opposition to fascism

I really hope that people can look beyond the sloganism of George Floyd and #blacklivesmatter because in the end just chanting those things will not achieve shit. This moment needs to be properly channelled or else it will just fizzle out into nothing. I think the media wants us to keep this simple, and about one man, or one issue, when all of those issues I listed above are all connected.

I thought a big part of the Covid lockdown and the "social distancing" was to stop people from protesting and talking amongst each other to organize, I was certain this was the case, and still am to a degree.

But now everybody has been brought together and are talking openly in the streets.

This part of the whole thing I find confusing.
Everyone has been brought together? Holy sh*t you need to pull your head out dude
 
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Everyone has been brought together? Holy sh*t you need to pull your head out dude
what I mean is that many of people are now talking and organizing on the streets when we were mandated to stay apart.

I dont mean the country is united. I think you knew that and are just knit picking and failing to see the larger picture.
 

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Your assertion rather undermines the fact a man has died. I mean, if we just put it all down to crisis acting, there’s no need to accept what actually happened. It’s all much more sanitary, isn’t it?
Yes, that is indeed the definition of a false flag event. This is a conspiracy website afterall, so I guess I'm curious why you don't seem to be willing to at least consider it. I prefaced my original post with the statement I'm not 100% convinced either way yet.
There is considerable evidence that Sandy Hook was a false flag narrative with crisis actors. That false flag would have to include a much greater amount of people complicit in the hoax then the George Floyd incident. Sandy Hook was discussed at great length on this website as a false flag, shortly after it happened, so that's why I posted the link speculating Goerge Floyd as a crisis actor here. I'm not really prepared to debate and/or defend the premise at this time, so do what you want with it.
 

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Your opinion is valid. I’m not saying you’re wrong just asking questions. Again I think issues like this are less important than the big picture. There was two contradicting autopsies, one to validate “both sides” so big picture it just adds to the division is all. I’m not trying to play into that
I’m not sure the autopsies were contradictory. They both said his death was homicide. They both said he died as a result of being restrained. They were just worded differently.
 

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Yes, that is indeed the definition of a false flag event. This is a conspiracy website afterall, so I guess I'm curious why you don't seem to be willing to at least consider it. I prefaced my original post with the statement I'm not 100% convinced either way yet.
There is considerable evidence that Sandy Hook was a false flag narrative with crisis actors. That false flag would have to include a much greater amount of people complicit in the hoax then the George Floyd incident. Sandy Hook was discussed at great length on this website as a false flag, shortly after it happened, so that's why I posted the link speculating Goerge Floyd as a crisis actor here. I'm not really prepared to debate and/or defend the premise at this time, so do what you want with it.
Why bring it up, if you’re not prepared to debate it?
 

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Why bring it up, if you’re not prepared to debate it?
To get others take on it? To see if anyone else has similar information or insight? Truth seeking is a continual process. It's not like you find one source you completely trust and accept everything blindly. Part of truth seeking is being open to premises and theories you might not intitially gravitate to or even want to accept.

Why do we have to debate everything? Can't we just respectfully discuss possible scenarios and premises as part of the process?
 
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Yes, that is indeed the definition of a false flag event. This is a conspiracy website afterall, so I guess I'm curious why you don't seem to be willing to at least consider it. I prefaced my original post with the statement I'm not 100% convinced either way yet.
There is considerable evidence that Sandy Hook was a false flag narrative with crisis actors. That false flag would have to include a much greater amount of people complicit in the hoax then the George Floyd incident. Sandy Hook was discussed at great length on this website as a false flag, shortly after it happened, so that's why I posted the link speculating Goerge Floyd as a crisis actor here. I'm not really prepared to debate and/or defend the premise at this time, so do what you want with it.

Real planes on 911 HOAX
Paris terror attacks (hundreds dead) HOAX
Sandy Hook HOAX
pulse night club shooting (50 dead) HOAX
Las Vegas shooting (50 dead) HOAX
Covid 19 HOAX
George Floyd killing HOAX

Antifa starting a revolution 100% real

LMFAO

man some of you are stupid as hell

seems like the hoax thing is just used to erase anything that goes against your narrative. You are creating your own reality.

The elites have the ability to hoax mass terror events that kill hundreds and pay off literally thousands of "crisis actors"


but somehow the brilliant people who believe this DONT THINK THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRESS UP OPERATIVES IN BLACK OUTFITS.

believe what you want to believe.
 
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Nah mate, he deserves a medal for taking out a useless violent parasite.
In WW2 we took out the Japs and Nazis too because they were threatening our peace and security..:)
You think that people should be summarily executed for cheque forgery and intoxication? What do you know about the person who was killed, did you know him personally? Perhaps he had traumatic experiences in his life which led to his drug addiction, there could have been all kinds of circumstances which led to him being in that situation, do you know all of that well enough to judge? Even when done with so-called "due process", capital punishment is useless, a form of totally unnecessary vengeance. Wasn't Christ's message all about forgiveness?

It's totally laughable that you support the warmongering of the former and present colonial powers and yet heap judgement upon some guy, an individual, who whatever he did couldn't have done anything so bad as those powers have done in history and still do today. In fact it is insane hypocrisy. @Hon33 is just pointing out that a human being has been killed.

"Peace and security" by violence is a contradiction in terms.
 
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