LittleLady
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First off, hello! I've been gone for a week and some days, I'm back and full with more wisdom and comfort. Thank you to whoever gave me encouragement, and attempted to help me <3
So the topic for this thread is about the Israelites. I have so many questions, and opinions. I'd like you, who is reading, to tell me your opinion after reading this.
I have a friend who believes Jesus came back NOT to die for the world, but to die for his people, the Israelites. Basically, she believes he only died for his people so they can have a chance at redeeming themselves, he did not die for the whole world. Here is a verse that actually makes sense with her claim.
Matthew 15:24 "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
So by this verse, do you believe that Jesus only died for his people which are the Israelites? There are many of us scattered among the world due to you know, how the Europeans colonized lands and then brought us to America, and even other countries, actually. My friend also says in addition to her claim, "I know a lot of people say this doesn't make sense, because Jesus specifically claims he died for the WORLD, but by the world, he could have meant his people WITHIN the world. There's been so many translations."
It gets more interesting.
She then says, "There is a verse where Jesus tells his people to preach to the four corners of the earth, but notice how he specifically assigns his people to preach to others. What he may mean by that is, he wants his people to preach to his people who have not yet received him."
Basically, she's saying Jesus wants his people, the ones that already got to know him, to preach to his other people which are also his chosen, but they haven't received him yet. This means that his main goal is only associated with having his people together. The rest of the world, whoever goes against him and his people will perish. The whole point of him dying for us, is actually him ONLY dying for his people; the chosen. NOT the entire world. Even though he's already aware who will perish, and who won't, he already has his chosen together.
John 15:16 "You did NOT choose me, but I CHOSE YOU and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit--fruit that will last--and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you."
So by this quote, he likely only did die for his people. It really doesn't make sense for him to die for the whole world, when he knows the majority of the world will not repent, so what's the point of dying for the already condemned? ESPECIALLY for those who work for satan; sold out; the goats. I have said many times in the past that some people are just born wicked. Usually, people respond angrily saying that doesn't make sense if all have a chance to repent, including those who sell their souls. Well, they don't as far as I'm concerned.
Lastly, she says when he returns as king, (second coming) we will all gather together and kill the nations who go against us.
2 Esdras 8:9 "[8] And he said unto me, From Abraham unto Isaac, when Jacob and Esau were born of him, Jacob's hand held first the heel of Esau. [9] For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth." Meaning the end of the worldly things, the end of slavery and segregation, the end of torment for people of color especially Black people, and the new beginning is Jesus and his people ruling. An eye for an eye, since we were enslaved back then, we will now become rulers, (there is a verse saying at the second coming in the Holy City, we will be the ones to rule now. We will be the ones to have servants now. What you have done is now turned against you.)
First of all, Esau is basically White ancestors. Well, a more in depth explanation is White people TODAY are considered Edomites, which are descendants of Esau. So...there you go. Jacob is the opposite race. Here's a picture.
So, this picture explains it. Not all White people are bad of course, but at the time where White people were called Esau, (I suppose?) that was the time of slavery, when Whites enslaves Blacks. This is why the other names are called, "Red Dragon," "The wicked," "The beast" etc because of their vile actions during slavery and even colonization.
Back to the original point my friend made, she's saying during the second coming, Jesus and his people will kill many of those who dwell in other nations who go against us, and after that, we will travel to the Holy City to dwell there for a thousand years as the verse says. So basically vengeance for the things the European Nations caused. As you know (hopefully) God created Adam and Eve; Black people first. After the fall, there was mutations occurring, this is why we have different races today. You can actually find in History, the farther and farther you read back even BEFORE slavery, a lot of people had dark skin tones. This even includes Japanese people, yeah when you think about them, a pale face and straight black hair may appear, but when you look into history, you can find they have dark skin tones and curly hair. Why? Because Black people were made first.
Over time, slavery happened, and colonization, etc. So in conclusion, Jesus died for his people aka the lost sheep of Israel, and when he comes back as king, we will have our vengeance, and justice. However, I'm not saying every Black person ever is his people, that's NOT true. Many people of color will also be slaughtered, and those people will be known as the tares, while his people will be known as the wheat. We know on Judgment Day, he separates the wheat from the tares, aka the goats from the sheep. On a more easier note, the separation of the evil sons from the good sons.
Who can be known as evil? Not Gods chosen. This means everyone else is to perish, EXcluding Gods chosen people. This is what my friend thinks, and based on all of this evidence, I'm starting to believe it myself. God may be a God of love, but he is also a God of just and vengeance. To those who see him as a "Welcome to my kingdom, I accept everyone," well, here you go. This also means the whole "equality" movement is false. We are not all equal. Gods people are the apple of his eye, and they are worth more than everyone else who dwells on the earth.
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So please, give me your opinion and personal analysis on why you agree/somewhat agree/disagree/not sure.
So the topic for this thread is about the Israelites. I have so many questions, and opinions. I'd like you, who is reading, to tell me your opinion after reading this.
I have a friend who believes Jesus came back NOT to die for the world, but to die for his people, the Israelites. Basically, she believes he only died for his people so they can have a chance at redeeming themselves, he did not die for the whole world. Here is a verse that actually makes sense with her claim.
Matthew 15:24 "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
So by this verse, do you believe that Jesus only died for his people which are the Israelites? There are many of us scattered among the world due to you know, how the Europeans colonized lands and then brought us to America, and even other countries, actually. My friend also says in addition to her claim, "I know a lot of people say this doesn't make sense, because Jesus specifically claims he died for the WORLD, but by the world, he could have meant his people WITHIN the world. There's been so many translations."
It gets more interesting.
She then says, "There is a verse where Jesus tells his people to preach to the four corners of the earth, but notice how he specifically assigns his people to preach to others. What he may mean by that is, he wants his people to preach to his people who have not yet received him."
Basically, she's saying Jesus wants his people, the ones that already got to know him, to preach to his other people which are also his chosen, but they haven't received him yet. This means that his main goal is only associated with having his people together. The rest of the world, whoever goes against him and his people will perish. The whole point of him dying for us, is actually him ONLY dying for his people; the chosen. NOT the entire world. Even though he's already aware who will perish, and who won't, he already has his chosen together.
John 15:16 "You did NOT choose me, but I CHOSE YOU and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit--fruit that will last--and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you."
So by this quote, he likely only did die for his people. It really doesn't make sense for him to die for the whole world, when he knows the majority of the world will not repent, so what's the point of dying for the already condemned? ESPECIALLY for those who work for satan; sold out; the goats. I have said many times in the past that some people are just born wicked. Usually, people respond angrily saying that doesn't make sense if all have a chance to repent, including those who sell their souls. Well, they don't as far as I'm concerned.
Lastly, she says when he returns as king, (second coming) we will all gather together and kill the nations who go against us.
2 Esdras 8:9 "[8] And he said unto me, From Abraham unto Isaac, when Jacob and Esau were born of him, Jacob's hand held first the heel of Esau. [9] For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth." Meaning the end of the worldly things, the end of slavery and segregation, the end of torment for people of color especially Black people, and the new beginning is Jesus and his people ruling. An eye for an eye, since we were enslaved back then, we will now become rulers, (there is a verse saying at the second coming in the Holy City, we will be the ones to rule now. We will be the ones to have servants now. What you have done is now turned against you.)
First of all, Esau is basically White ancestors. Well, a more in depth explanation is White people TODAY are considered Edomites, which are descendants of Esau. So...there you go. Jacob is the opposite race. Here's a picture.
So, this picture explains it. Not all White people are bad of course, but at the time where White people were called Esau, (I suppose?) that was the time of slavery, when Whites enslaves Blacks. This is why the other names are called, "Red Dragon," "The wicked," "The beast" etc because of their vile actions during slavery and even colonization.
Back to the original point my friend made, she's saying during the second coming, Jesus and his people will kill many of those who dwell in other nations who go against us, and after that, we will travel to the Holy City to dwell there for a thousand years as the verse says. So basically vengeance for the things the European Nations caused. As you know (hopefully) God created Adam and Eve; Black people first. After the fall, there was mutations occurring, this is why we have different races today. You can actually find in History, the farther and farther you read back even BEFORE slavery, a lot of people had dark skin tones. This even includes Japanese people, yeah when you think about them, a pale face and straight black hair may appear, but when you look into history, you can find they have dark skin tones and curly hair. Why? Because Black people were made first.
Over time, slavery happened, and colonization, etc. So in conclusion, Jesus died for his people aka the lost sheep of Israel, and when he comes back as king, we will have our vengeance, and justice. However, I'm not saying every Black person ever is his people, that's NOT true. Many people of color will also be slaughtered, and those people will be known as the tares, while his people will be known as the wheat. We know on Judgment Day, he separates the wheat from the tares, aka the goats from the sheep. On a more easier note, the separation of the evil sons from the good sons.
Who can be known as evil? Not Gods chosen. This means everyone else is to perish, EXcluding Gods chosen people. This is what my friend thinks, and based on all of this evidence, I'm starting to believe it myself. God may be a God of love, but he is also a God of just and vengeance. To those who see him as a "Welcome to my kingdom, I accept everyone," well, here you go. This also means the whole "equality" movement is false. We are not all equal. Gods people are the apple of his eye, and they are worth more than everyone else who dwells on the earth.
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So please, give me your opinion and personal analysis on why you agree/somewhat agree/disagree/not sure.