BTS discussion thread

[TheNightDuck]

Yeah..i wonder if they get saved, not just simply feeling remorse for what theyve done and want to get out, but actually give up wanting to be reptilian/allowing to be demonically influenced lol and fully come to God, will there soul come back to there original body? Cuz somr can be fully reptilian, others can me 70% reptilian and 30% human, or half and half. Its harder for me to comprehend bts or kpop idols being one since they only show a limited amount of themselves and specific fan interactions, which makes it even more shocking because how "innocent" they look on the outside. but it is possible when they are in this level of fame.

Have yall heard about their documentaries "Break The Silence"? I guess they are trying to show what its been like "behind the scenes" and their hardships and "honesty" but fans will only see the surface of everything they release and do. i also find these vids kind of surprising what staff had to do.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1260992655661678593

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1260996800594546695

I wonder as well. Islam tells us we dont know much about the soul, or at least the intricacies of it. So I am really on full speculation mode because honestly I keep hearing and reading these reptiles(I believe they are demons/djinns) can remove the soul and store it but I cannot fathom how. And I cant figure out why anybody would give their soul for fame and money. It just makes zero sense to me.

I dont know if u watched that reptile video I uploaded, but it finally clicked to me why its called the deep state. All this satanic shit literally happens deep in the earth in the DUMBS. Maybe im slow but I only just think I understood the term deep state.

I wonder if this means these celebs and kpop stars all go deep underground to undergo their mk ultra etc because there are actually deep underground railways and tunnels that connect the continents! Crazy

I haven't actually watched this series of BTS but they will never show us everything its just a facade to make us feel whatever way they intend

 

[taepeach]

Jimin and jk show the most mk ultra trauma and glitches
http://instagr.am/p/CAFu2yKJnJR/ Slide to the 3rd and 4th ones. Jk just does weirdo things and also spaces out a lot, forgets he has hands, fights with dogs and the 4th vid where hes just blindly walking far into the hill with the dog even the camera man are confused. And he came back without the dog, meaning that dog DEAD. Hopefully not sacrified, he couldve taken the advantage of doing anything in an isolated open space
http://instagr.am/p/CALXWM4pKn5/

 

[taepeach]

I dont know if u watched that reptile video I uploaded, but it finally clicked to me why its called the deep state. All this satanic shit literally happens deep in the earth in the DUMBS. Maybe im slow but I only just think I understood the term deep state.

I wonder if this means these celebs and kpop stars all go deep underground to undergo their mk ultra etc because there are actually deep underground railways and tunnels that connect the continents! Crazy

Yeah! Thats probably how even bt$/idols are all able to reunite for rituals and ceremonies despite being in another country!

Also i cant find the video you posted, is it on youtube and whats it called?

 

[JINtercession]

I have a question for everyone: At what age do you all think each member was corrupted?
In the womb (moonchild theory), during their childhood, or sometime when they joined BH?
I've just had a bewildering thought. What if some of their 'parents' are not their true parents and they were taken because the elite saw their collective power, like 11 in stranger things? What if this group has been planned since before they were born? Some of them do look like their parents like the 94 line, but others, such as Jimin and Jin (to an extent) are a mystery. Nevertheless, I saw some beta sex kitten, MK ultra and numerological symbolism in some of their childhood photos.


Leopard Print Tae, also the thing mentioned earlier about his 'father' giving him the watch during Bon Voyage as a gift for gaining his 'apprentice'. Tae also said this: “When it was break time I went to take a peek of all the classrooms, I also went to buy something to eat, I was a kid who couldn’t stop for even a second. When I was in elementary school I participated in a Drag Competition."


Joon likes his Mickey Mouse


3, 6, 9, 12, five point stars + Jinnie looks lowkey terrified of his dad... or handler. I think it's no mistake that his 'dad' is the CEo even though he changed his story when asked and called him an 'office worker'. https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/blog/who-is-jins-dad/2vaw_Mv1UNur6L4228L50b3vMgBe16l38rD
He doesn't look like his dad much either.

Candyboi doin that 10 finger thing related to clones talked about in @mimis video on carpool Karaoke
Also：
Jimin is a feminine Korean name and he was set up to become the most feminine member,

plus his dad's Alice in Wonderland cafe which has been discussed here before. It also still remains a mystery as to why his father wrote a letter to him in ENGLISH.
It's mostly conjecture, but there's a possibility of anything.
Do you think the members were innocent when they were children or there was something sinister brewing from day one?
How far do you think the BU narrative is from their reality?
I also found it strange how in ego, J hop's childhood picture was shown with the B-day cake and his story in the Love Yourself Short Film (also BU) was somehow connected to his childhood




What if the BU and supposedly fantasy story of him being left by his mother holds some truth to it?
There's just so much we don't know about them. For example, somebody did a video where they went to Rem's hometown and the owner of a restaurant frequented by him when he was young reported that his favorite food was the Shrimp and Avocado soup :0 even though he said he's supposedly 'allergic' to shellfish or at least dislikes it.

Does any member of BTS have allergies?

Answer (1 of 12): So here I’ll be talking about the members’ allergies, conditions and phobias Jin is allergic to potatoes and garlic, but however we know that his allergy to garlic is less severe compared to his allergy to potatoes. He said so on Weverse and run bts episodes Taehyung has a con...

www.quora.com

They also exposed that he didn't just learn English from watching friends but he went to an after school English program. I was like 'dang this doesn't add up, Idk this guy!!' after watching.
see for yourself in 7:16 and 9:46 of this video

I'm also still not quite sure why he lied about his childhood like this, but opened up about how he stole his father's ID to watch pornography, on national television.
If they lie about something so trivial as their food preferences, then how many other lies do you think they are telling us?


++Lately I've been really scared after having a conversation with somebody about predestination and the theories of John Calvin and it made me really worried that God isn't loving because he picks and chooses who he wants to send to heaven or hell without giving them a chance and I'm worried that the members were predestined to get the evil manifestation. A couple of the songs on Rem's mixtape allude to a knowledge of some sort of predestination
Moonchild,
C'mon y'all, moonchild, moonchild
That's how it's supposed to be
Yeah all this pain and all this sorrow
That's our destiny, see?

Always
If I ever meet God, I would tell him this
That life is coffee that I never ordered
I would grab him by the collar and tell him
Death is an americano you can’t refill

What if he used his 3rd eye or something to gain knowledge of God predestining him to go to hell???
And he's mad at God??
There was also that time JK joked that he's going to hell??
Somebody help me out here, I'm literally shivering as I type this and I'm super worried about my faith at the moment.
I really hope God is not like that!! but Romans 9:12 onwards is making me a bit confused about God's character tbh. As an empath , it seems to get harder and harder every day to stay in the faith. I pray for everyone that we can resolve any faith issues that we may be having right now, because I'm confronting this right now.

 

[AndrAt3A]

I have a question for everyone: At what age do you all think each member was corrupted?
In the womb (moonchild theory), during their childhood, or sometime when they joined BH?
I've just had a bewildering thought. What if some of their 'parents' are not their true parents and they were taken because the elite saw their collective power, like 11 in stranger things? What if this group has been planned since before they were born? Some of them do look like their parents like the 94 line, but others, such as Jimin and Jin (to an extent) are a mystery. Nevertheless, I saw some beta sex kitten, MK ultra and numerological symbolism in some of their childhood photos.
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Leopard Print Tae, also the thing mentioned earlier about his 'father' giving him the watch during Bon Voyage as a gift for gaining his 'apprentice'. Tae also said this: “When it was break time I went to take a peek of all the classrooms, I also went to buy something to eat, I was a kid who couldn’t stop for even a second. When I was in elementary school I participated in a Drag Competition."
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Joon likes his Mickey Mouse

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3, 6, 9, 12, five point stars + Jinnie looks lowkey terrified of his dad... or handler. I think it's no mistake that his 'dad' is the CEo even though he changed his story when asked and called him an 'office worker'. https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/blog/who-is-jins-dad/2vaw_Mv1UNur6L4228L50b3vMgBe16l38rD
He doesn't look like his dad much either.
View attachment 36240
Candyboi doin that 10 finger thing related to clones talked about in @mimis video on carpool Karaoke
Also：
Jimin is a feminine Korean name and he was set up to become the most feminine member,
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plus his dad's Alice in Wonderland cafe which has been discussed here before. It also still remains a mystery as to why his father wrote a letter to him in ENGLISH.
It's mostly conjecture, but there's a possibility of anything.
Do you think the members were innocent when they were children or there was something sinister brewing from day one?
How far do you think the BU narrative is from their reality?
I also found it strange how in ego, J hop's childhood picture was shown with the B-day cake and his story in the Love Yourself Short Film (also BU) was somehow connected to his childhood
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What if the BU and supposedly fantasy story of him being left by his mother holds some truth to it?
There's just so much we don't know about them. For example, somebody did a video where they went to Rem's hometown and the owner of a restaurant frequented by him when he was young reported that his favorite food was the Shrimp and Avocado soup :0 even though he said he's supposedly 'allergic' to shellfish or at least dislikes it.

Does any member of BTS have allergies?

Answer (1 of 12): So here I’ll be talking about the members’ allergies, conditions and phobias Jin is allergic to potatoes and garlic, but however we know that his allergy to garlic is less severe compared to his allergy to potatoes. He said so on Weverse and run bts episodes Taehyung has a con...

www.quora.com

They also exposed that he didn't just learn English from watching friends but he went to an after school English program. I was like 'dang this doesn't add up, Idk this guy!!' after watching.
see for yourself in 7:16 and 9:46 of this video

I'm also still not quite sure why he lied about his childhood like this, but opened up about how he stole his father's ID to watch pornography, on national television.
If they lie about something so trivial as their food preferences, then how many other lies do you think they are telling us?


++Lately I've been really scared after having a conversation with somebody about predestination and the theories of John Calvin and it made me really worried that God isn't loving because he picks and chooses who he wants to send to heaven or hell without giving them a chance and I'm worried that the members were predestined to get the evil manifestation. A couple of the songs on Rem's mixtape allude to a knowledge of some sort of predestination
Moonchild,
C'mon y'all, moonchild, moonchild
That's how it's supposed to be
Yeah all this pain and all this sorrow
That's our destiny, see?

Always
If I ever meet God, I would tell him this
That life is coffee that I never ordered
I would grab him by the collar and tell him
Death is an americano you can’t refill

What if he used his 3rd eye or something to gain knowledge of God predestining him to go to hell???
And he's mad at God??
There was also that time JK joked that he's going to hell??
Somebody help me out here, I'm literally shivering as I type this and I'm super worried about my faith at the moment.
I really hope God is not like that!! but Romans 9:12 onwards is making me a bit confused about God's character tbh. As an empath , it seems to get harder and harder every day to stay in the faith. I pray for everyone that we can resolve any faith issues that we may be having right now, because I'm confronting this right now.

Honestly I feel like they were given specific qualities and background stories to tell during their debut days to establish themselves. Like RMm not liking seafood going hand in hand with his crab obsession and his love of sea creatures. There is so much content provided by B1GH1T about him and sea animals, and the more they show, the more he talks about it, then the more it just becomes part of his character.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1011405480642502656

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1195367639255699457

Same with the story Vee tells of k00 K00 being so shy when they first met etc... if you watch old radio shows of them it really seems like they are telling fake stories about eachother, in the video Koo looks unhappy that he is being portrayed as shy/ it's his first time hearing this information even though it's about him.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/963381161232777216

 

[AndrAt3A]

Idk if it's the photoshop or what, but they look very much not the same as in other promotions.

 

[JINtercession]

Honestly I feel like they were given specific qualities and background stories to tell during their debut days to establish themselves. Like RMm not liking seafood going hand in hand with his crab obsession and his love of sea creatures. There is so much content provided by B1GH1T about him and sea animals, and the more they show, the more he talks about it, then the more it just becomes part of his character.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1011405480642502656

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1195367639255699457

Same with the story Vee tells of k00 K00 being so shy when they first met etc... if you watch old radio shows of them it really seems like they are telling fake stories about eachother, in the video Koo looks unhappy that he is being portrayed as shy/ it's his first time hearing this information even though it's about him.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/963381161232777216

Yep, I saw somebody on reddit talk about this too as well as the Momo, gay thing and the shock over her dating Heechul (which goes to show queer-baiting is a part of the k-pop industry) I mean I was shocked too, but mainly because of the age gap.
Also, I'm sorry if I posted this before and this probably won't come as a surprise to you but I was shocked to find out that Rem doesn't have an IQ of '148', at least not according to this episode of Problematic Men in which he took a WAIS (Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale) test and actually only got 120.

Have fun watching him squirm and writhe in his insecurity disguised as grandiose as his persona he takes great pride in falls apart before your eyes.
Watch the videos of Taehyung displaying all 8 types of intelligence and be further convinced that he is the true genius of Btes (but might not be for much longer if he keeps up his vaping thing).

Bighit tried to paint him as a dummy, but it got old, so now he's a tsundere genius and everyone says he looks like Todoroki.
Bottom of the story is, these guys we think we see are but an image, no more than a product conveniently packaged into bite-sized, one dimensional, idealized boxes. Relegated to tropes because humans by default are too lazy to see beyond the surface
I found tropes that seem to fit their image easily on TV Tropes
JIN: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GentlemanSnarker
YOONGI: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkWithAHeartOfGold
HOBI:https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SadClown
REM:https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GeniusDitz
JIM: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Bishonen
TAE: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCharmer
JK: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JackOfAllTrades or https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheAce
Speaking of Personas, I didn't noticed this before, but in their song Persona REM mentions:

What does he mean by "Pretending to be evil"?
What purpose does that serve?
I'm curious what your thoughts on this are? Why would someone 'pretend to be evil'? Is it an excuse to brush of their evil actions?

 

[AndrAt3A]

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Yep, I saw somebody on reddit talk about this too as well as the Momo, gay thing and the shock over her dating Heechul (which goes to show queer-baiting is a part of the k-pop industry) I mean I was shocked too, but mainly because of the age gap.
Also, I'm sorry if I posted this before and this probably won't come as a surprise to you but I was shocked to find out that Rem doesn't have an IQ of '148', at least not according to this episode of Problematic Men in which he took a WAIS (Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale) test and actually only got 120.

Have fun watching him squirm and writhe in his insecurity disguised as grandiose as his persona he takes great pride in falls apart before your eyes.
Watch the videos of Taehyung displaying all 8 types of intelligence and be further convinced that he is the true genius of Btes (but might not be for much longer if he keeps up his vaping thing).

I have seen the Tea videos countless times, mostly because he is so often portrayed as the 'dumb blonde' or 'weird/alien' in the group and I hate to see a fellow capricorn reduced to such slander when taken out of context lol.
Literally I have watch at least 4 reactors on YouTube 'react' to the video A Meme filled guide to Btss and they describe him as "weird(but in a good way)" and then right after describe K00 as "Quirky"
Bruh.
Fans like that are shaping how new fans/just curious people see the members. Projecting personality traits onto them then introducing them to others their version of the members. It baffles me.

Their early radio interviews are way more interesting than nowadays. Also there is one where Namj00n was not there, and it seemed like Tea and Sug4 take the lead. That's why I am so interested when they are singled out so much in group dynamics.
Its interesting to me how the real power lineup goes. Member to member at least. I know that they're puppets, but which puppet has the loosest strings tied to them.

 

[taepeach]

I have a question for everyone: At what age do you all think each member was corrupted?
In the womb (moonchild theory), during their childhood, or sometime when they joined BH?
I've just had a bewildering thought. What if some of their 'parents' are not their true parents and they were taken because the elite saw their collective power, like 11 in stranger things? What if this group has been planned since before they were born? Some of them do look like their parents like the 94 line, but others, such as Jimin and Jin (to an extent) are a mystery. Nevertheless, I saw some beta sex kitten, MK ultra and numerological symbolism in some of their childhood photos.
View attachment 36243
View attachment 36233
Leopard Print Tae, also the thing mentioned earlier about his 'father' giving him the watch during Bon Voyage as a gift for gaining his 'apprentice'. Tae also said this: “When it was break time I went to take a peek of all the classrooms, I also went to buy something to eat, I was a kid who couldn’t stop for even a second. When I was in elementary school I participated in a Drag Competition."
View attachment 36234
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Joon likes his Mickey Mouse

View attachment 36239
3, 6, 9, 12, five point stars + Jinnie looks lowkey terrified of his dad... or handler. I think it's no mistake that his 'dad' is the CEo even though he changed his story when asked and called him an 'office worker'. https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/blog/who-is-jins-dad/2vaw_Mv1UNur6L4228L50b3vMgBe16l38rD
He doesn't look like his dad much either.
View attachment 36240
Candyboi doin that 10 finger thing related to clones talked about in @mimis video on carpool Karaoke
Also：
Jimin is a feminine Korean name and he was set up to become the most feminine member,
View attachment 36232
plus his dad's Alice in Wonderland cafe which has been discussed here before. It also still remains a mystery as to why his father wrote a letter to him in ENGLISH.
It's mostly conjecture, but there's a possibility of anything.
Do you think the members were innocent when they were children or there was something sinister brewing from day one?
How far do you think the BU narrative is from their reality?
I also found it strange how in ego, J hop's childhood picture was shown with the B-day cake and his story in the Love Yourself Short Film (also BU) was somehow connected to his childhood
View attachment 36244

View attachment 36245
View attachment 36247
What if the BU and supposedly fantasy story of him being left by his mother holds some truth to it?
There's just so much we don't know about them. For example, somebody did a video where they went to Rem's hometown and the owner of a restaurant frequented by him when he was young reported that his favorite food was the Shrimp and Avocado soup :0 even though he said he's supposedly 'allergic' to shellfish or at least dislikes it.

Does any member of BTS have allergies?

Answer (1 of 12): So here I’ll be talking about the members’ allergies, conditions and phobias Jin is allergic to potatoes and garlic, but however we know that his allergy to garlic is less severe compared to his allergy to potatoes. He said so on Weverse and run bts episodes Taehyung has a con...

www.quora.com

They also exposed that he didn't just learn English from watching friends but he went to an after school English program. I was like 'dang this doesn't add up, Idk this guy!!' after watching.
see for yourself in 7:16 and 9:46 of this video

I'm also still not quite sure why he lied about his childhood like this, but opened up about how he stole his father's ID to watch pornography, on national television.
If they lie about something so trivial as their food preferences, then how many other lies do you think they are telling us?


++Lately I've been really scared after having a conversation with somebody about predestination and the theories of John Calvin and it made me really worried that God isn't loving because he picks and chooses who he wants to send to heaven or hell without giving them a chance and I'm worried that the members were predestined to get the evil manifestation. A couple of the songs on Rem's mixtape allude to a knowledge of some sort of predestination
Moonchild,
C'mon y'all, moonchild, moonchild
That's how it's supposed to be
Yeah all this pain and all this sorrow
That's our destiny, see?

Always
If I ever meet God, I would tell him this
That life is coffee that I never ordered
I would grab him by the collar and tell him
Death is an americano you can’t refill

What if he used his 3rd eye or something to gain knowledge of God predestining him to go to hell???
And he's mad at God??
There was also that time JK joked that he's going to hell??
Somebody help me out here, I'm literally shivering as I type this and I'm super worried about my faith at the moment.
I really hope God is not like that!! but Romans 9:12 onwards is making me a bit confused about God's character tbh. As an empath , it seems to get harder and harder every day to stay in the faith. I pray for everyone that we can resolve any faith issues that we may be having right now, because I'm confronting this right now.

Yoongi even said himself in that Break The Silence episode that it seems like they were predestined to be with each other. Maybe that means they really were really planned out from the beginning? Maybe they didnt know they each specifically were going to be in the same group, but they definitely were predestined to be bts. Jhope literally auditioned for jyp yet 'chose' and ended up in bighit. Or that supposed 8th member yet it turned out to be 7 members.

For now we dont know what will happen to them. Compared to the satanists getting punished and cursed for their deeds in the occult/slowly dying with all the fame and money, bts still seem to not be affected, so we never know if God has something planned for them. Recently christians have been prophecying about a revival happening soon, so lets hope they will also be a part of it. Not bts the kpop boygroup, but kim namjoon, jung hoseok, park jimin, min yoongi, kim seokjin, kim taehyung and jeon jungkook themselves.

When it comes to heaven or hell NO ONE is innocent, so its not immoral if God "sends" someone to hell, because you would be going there for a sinful reason not just for God's pleasure. With RM's allegiance to the occult and love for one eye hes choosing to go to hell, which is sad cuz he was probably programmed and taught to believe hell will be heaven (everything is reverse in their world). Although ive always felt bts do have the potential to be saved, i never really felt great condemnation and judgment over them compared to those in hollywood, despite people expecting bts' downfall.

Ive always wondered about namjoon being atheist, and those lyrics might answer why? Maybe he was angry at God, but i thought it was because in Asia many are already non believing.

There are many christian testimonies of people in the occult and industry who were victims and fully obedient to Satan yet were delivered, changed and become righteous with God. Namjoon and the other members and any other can be as well! Just dont allow worldy theories and beliefs attack your faith.

 

[AndrAt3A]

Yoongi even said himself in that Break The Silence episode that it seems like they were predestined to be with each other. Maybe that means they really were really planned out from the beginning? Maybe they didnt know they each specifically were going to be in the same group, but they definitely were predestined to be bts. Jhope literally auditioned for jyp yet 'chose' and ended up in bighit. Or that supposed 8th member yet it turned out to be 7 members.

For now we dont know what will happen to them. Compared to the satanists getting punished and cursed for their deeds in the occult/slowly dying with all the fame and money, bts still seem to not be affected, so we never know if God has something planned for them. Recently christians have been prophecying about a revival happening soon, so lets hope they will also be a part of it. Not bts the kpop boygroup, but kim namjoon, jung hoseok, park jimin, min yoongi, kim seokjin, kim taehyung and jeon jungkook themselves.

When it comes to heaven or hell NO ONE is innocent, so its not immoral if God "sends" someone to hell, because you would be going there for a sinful reason not just for God's pleasure. With RM's allegiance to the occult and love for one eye hes choosing to go to hell, which is sad cuz he was probably programmed and taught to believe hell will be heaven (everything is reverse in their world). Although ive always felt bts do have the potential to be saved, i never really felt great condemnation and judgment over them compared to those in hollywood, despite people expecting bts' downfall.

Ive always wondered about namjoon being atheist, and those lyrics might answer why? Maybe he was angry at God, but i thought it was because in Asia many are already non believing.

There are many christian testimonies of people in the occult and industry who were victims and fully obedient to Satan yet were delivered, changed and become righteous with God. Namjoon and the other members and any other can be as well! Just dont allow worldy theories and beliefs attack your faith.

I'm agnostic.
Also Jh0pe was a trainee for jyp and B1GH1T was like a subsidiary of the company as well, it's just that when bang wanted to separate Jh0pe was part of those who transitioned over into the new solo company. I think that's also why there's never really any serious competition between. Jyp groups and B1GH1T groups. They were once under the Same company.

 

[RaquelCF]

I have a question for everyone: At what age do you all think each member was corrupted?
In the womb (moonchild theory), during their childhood, or sometime when they joined BH?
I've just had a bewildering thought. What if some of their 'parents' are not their true parents and they were taken because the elite saw their collective power, like 11 in stranger things? What if this group has been planned since before they were born? Some of them do look like their parents like the 94 line, but others, such as Jimin and Jin (to an extent) are a mystery. Nevertheless, I saw some beta sex kitten, MK ultra and numerological symbolism in some of their childhood photos.
View attachment 36243
View attachment 36233
Leopard Print Tae, also the thing mentioned earlier about his 'father' giving him the watch during Bon Voyage as a gift for gaining his 'apprentice'. Tae also said this: “When it was break time I went to take a peek of all the classrooms, I also went to buy something to eat, I was a kid who couldn’t stop for even a second. When I was in elementary school I participated in a Drag Competition."
View attachment 36234
View attachment 36241
Joon likes his Mickey Mouse

View attachment 36239
3, 6, 9, 12, five point stars + Jinnie looks lowkey terrified of his dad... or handler. I think it's no mistake that his 'dad' is the CEo even though he changed his story when asked and called him an 'office worker'. https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/blog/who-is-jins-dad/2vaw_Mv1UNur6L4228L50b3vMgBe16l38rD
He doesn't look like his dad much either.
View attachment 36240
Candyboi doin that 10 finger thing related to clones talked about in @mimis video on carpool Karaoke
Also：
Jimin is a feminine Korean name and he was set up to become the most feminine member,
View attachment 36232
plus his dad's Alice in Wonderland cafe which has been discussed here before. It also still remains a mystery as to why his father wrote a letter to him in ENGLISH.
It's mostly conjecture, but there's a possibility of anything.
Do you think the members were innocent when they were children or there was something sinister brewing from day one?
How far do you think the BU narrative is from their reality?
I also found it strange how in ego, J hop's childhood picture was shown with the B-day cake and his story in the Love Yourself Short Film (also BU) was somehow connected to his childhood
View attachment 36244

View attachment 36245
View attachment 36247
What if the BU and supposedly fantasy story of him being left by his mother holds some truth to it?
There's just so much we don't know about them. For example, somebody did a video where they went to Rem's hometown and the owner of a restaurant frequented by him when he was young reported that his favorite food was the Shrimp and Avocado soup :0 even though he said he's supposedly 'allergic' to shellfish or at least dislikes it.

Does any member of BTS have allergies?

Answer (1 of 12): So here I’ll be talking about the members’ allergies, conditions and phobias Jin is allergic to potatoes and garlic, but however we know that his allergy to garlic is less severe compared to his allergy to potatoes. He said so on Weverse and run bts episodes Taehyung has a con...

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They also exposed that he didn't just learn English from watching friends but he went to an after school English program. I was like 'dang this doesn't add up, Idk this guy!!' after watching.
see for yourself in 7:16 and 9:46 of this video

I'm also still not quite sure why he lied about his childhood like this, but opened up about how he stole his father's ID to watch pornography, on national television.
If they lie about something so trivial as their food preferences, then how many other lies do you think they are telling us?


++Lately I've been really scared after having a conversation with somebody about predestination and the theories of John Calvin and it made me really worried that God isn't loving because he picks and chooses who he wants to send to heaven or hell without giving them a chance and I'm worried that the members were predestined to get the evil manifestation. A couple of the songs on Rem's mixtape allude to a knowledge of some sort of predestination
Moonchild,
C'mon y'all, moonchild, moonchild
That's how it's supposed to be
Yeah all this pain and all this sorrow
That's our destiny, see?

Always
If I ever meet God, I would tell him this
That life is coffee that I never ordered
I would grab him by the collar and tell him
Death is an americano you can’t refill

What if he used his 3rd eye or something to gain knowledge of God predestining him to go to hell???
And he's mad at God??
There was also that time JK joked that he's going to hell??
Somebody help me out here, I'm literally shivering as I type this and I'm super worried about my faith at the moment.
I really hope God is not like that!! but Romans 9:12 onwards is making me a bit confused about God's character tbh. As an empath , it seems to get harder and harder every day to stay in the faith. I pray for everyone that we can resolve any faith issues that we may be having right now, because I'm confronting this right now.

These are really good points you gave and definitely something to think about regarding the members.

As for your faith I feel like it’s normal to question things. But do not get it twisted God does not send anyone to hell. He died for all of mankind specifically so that would NOT happen. One of the greatest things God has given us in life is choice. Peoples choice to follow him or not.
Our God is a gracious, compassionate, loving God. It is written that he cries and aches for mankind, seeing all the vile things that go on in the world nowadays.
It is also written that we should “fear” God. It sounds kinda intense but not fear in the way where we should be scared of him because he’s mean to put it in simple terms but to not take advantage of the fact that he’s so loving and forgiving to continuously live in sin thinking it’s fine cause God will just forgive us no matter what right?
Don’t let anything make you think differently about God not being pure love because that’s who he is!

 

[Yellowbunzz tasty]

I've been reading this thread for awhile. I wanted to share my experience with this kpop group outside the context of illuminati as I think it might help some of you.

Two years ago I came accross a video about illuminati from a channel. I followed the guy who made it and learnt more stuff beside illuminati about energy, the laws of the universe and about how about our insides/mind influence the outisde/external lives and world. I decided to apply what I learnt and changed my life. Then I came accross videos of them. This band was much more wholesome in comparison to other singers and bands. I'm not saying their management and their business is. I have a good intuition and I can read people well. The management or whoever is making money of them seems to be milking it with the marchendices and branded stuff. As I understand is the case with kpop bands, these guys started too young to be workign this nonstop and without time to learn or evolve. Honestly, the positivity I read in most of the members is more about them as people and has nothing to do with their message, music or looks. I'm too used to men of my own race and never liked men from other races. So I'm neutal to them. The goodness I saw in them and received is a reflection of my own state of mind and energy.

Maybe you should consider that the way in which you see these people is perhaps a reflection of you own mindset and energy. The constant jabs at the members are making it hard to read the thread even as someone who doesn't care about them. It's annoying.

As some pointed out that there has become a source of something grim here and it's not from the band but from the posters who talk with such disgust and loath about the members. It is actually worrisome because I get the vibes that some have no qualms over either verbally or physically trying to assault them in real life. To me it reads as far from objective. It should raise the question about the intentions of those really bent on pushing agendas against the members themselves rather than keeping it to analysing the music, the vidoes and images and whether this a personal vendetta hate thread or an illuminati thread. I know this is an informal setting but perhaps you shouldn't completely throw away your compassion, respect and any semblance of caution you would have if they were people you met in real life regardless of what you believe their music and imagery suggest. Them as people should really be off limits until you find soemthing real rather than the "I heard someone said" and "I read something I don't remember where by someone I also don't remember who that Jin sells sex for awards" and "this person blinked funny or jumped too much so it means he is xyz". Some of you post as if you actually live with the band and know what they do 24/7. Unless you're an investigator in South Korea with connections, information, and sources, I hope you refrain.

I would like to share with you the youtube channel on illuminati that I follow but unfortunately it is not in English. The guy never speaks ill of the actors or singers he dissects their work and is completely objective. It's a peaceful environment for the listern/reader. Something good to realize is to separate the people from the material. The more you put out negativity - especially this consistently towards the same people, it will manifest itself, and it will just impose on your own energy and those around you.

I don't fully agree with you here since I've actually found out that the law of attraction is new age witchcraft. See we don't create difficult circumstances it just comes with being human in a spiritual realm. Since we cant say a girl who was raped is actually at fault since she attracted it. Its a very toxic mindset.

I don't believe that if I just simply sit down and tell myself it will happen it will happen since I tried it and....i never got adopted!!! Like I wanted to leave my home and genuinly believed it bu it never happened.

I feel like this whole perception fo I can create my own future is...booboo since if we could then we would be infinite , we wouldn't all die at a particular age or get wrinkles as we grow older that's why I call it witchcraft as well it sustains you till your time is up.

I personally had no interest in kpop or Asian entertainment in general but I stumbled upon it on my YouTube channel through a black creater(youtube algorithm) Therafter seeing many interactions with their fans I began to force myself to like their music even though I knew they were...DWs(devil worshipers)

I never wanted to like kpop since I thought it was weird. I genuinely never and to this day wish I never knew about them but now I do and I honestly never wanted to attract them into my life

 

[AndrAt3A]

See shit like this makes me think that BiTS is way more toned down on queer baiting. Although any queer bait is a bad thing in general. But this.... bruh. I felt it didnt belong in the shipping thread cause it's more along the lines of the gay agenda thing in kpop in general. G0t7 are arguably the closest group to them and this is them on the regular. When I say non famous Korean guys aren't air touchy this is what I mean.
This is clearly alluding to romantic rather than platonic. 90% is Jacks0n aka Namj00ns BFF

 

[TheNightDuck]

I've been reading this thread for awhile. I wanted to share my experience with this kpop group outside the context of illuminati as I think it might help some of you.

Two years ago I came accross a video about illuminati from a channel. I followed the guy who made it and learnt more stuff beside illuminati about energy, the laws of the universe and about how about our insides/mind influence the outisde/external lives and world. I decided to apply what I learnt and changed my life. Then I came accross videos of them. This band was much more wholesome in comparison to other singers and bands. I'm not saying their management and their business is. I have a good intuition and I can read people well. The management or whoever is making money of them seems to be milking it with the marchendices and branded stuff. As I understand is the case with kpop bands, these guys started too young to be workign this nonstop and without time to learn or evolve. Honestly, the positivity I read in most of the members is more about them as people and has nothing to do with their message, music or looks. I'm too used to men of my own race and never liked men from other races. So I'm neutal to them. The goodness I saw in them and received is a reflection of my own state of mind and energy.

Maybe you should consider that the way in which you see these people is perhaps a reflection of you own mindset and energy. The constant jabs at the members are making it hard to read the thread even as someone who doesn't care about them. It's annoying.

As some pointed out that there has become a source of something grim here and it's not from the band but from the posters who talk with such disgust and loath about the members. It is actually worrisome because I get the vibes that some have no qualms over either verbally or physically trying to assault them in real life. To me it reads as far from objective. It should raise the question about the intentions of those really bent on pushing agendas against the members themselves rather than keeping it to analysing the music, the vidoes and images and whether this a personal vendetta hate thread or an illuminati thread. I know this is an informal setting but perhaps you shouldn't completely throw away your compassion, respect and any semblance of caution you would have if they were people you met in real life regardless of what you believe their music and imagery suggest. Them as people should really be off limits until you find soemthing real rather than the "I heard someone said" and "I read something I don't remember where by someone I also don't remember who that Jin sells sex for awards" and "this person blinked funny or jumped too much so it means he is xyz". Some of you post as if you actually live with the band and know what they do 24/7. Unless you're an investigator in South Korea with connections, information, and sources, I hope you refrain.

I would like to share with you the youtube channel on illuminati that I follow but unfortunately it is not in English. The guy never speaks ill of the actors or singers he dissects their work and is completely objective. It's a peaceful environment for the listern/reader. Something good to realize is to separate the people from the material. The more you put out negativity - especially this consistently towards the same people, it will manifest itself, and it will just impose on your own energy and those around you.

I can totally agree with alot of what ur saying.

Some people here are downright derogatory to BTS which I mean I dont get, some seem to have intense hatred towards them and yet dissect everything they do. Its bizarre to be honest. I can only take it as a negative obsession.

The ILLUMINATI influence, freemasonry evidence, and other satanic symbolism etc etc is extremely evident in Bts. But u are right attacking the members in the way some people do is just wrong because this is merely speculation and attacking them just cant be right. At times im disappointed with bts, sometimes im upset with them like wwhhhyyyy. However this thread at times has turned me off them for a minute but never entirely

I still look at these people and have compassion and still see people that even if are doing weird stuff now, must have some good in them. Ppl have said weird stuff here to he honest like did so and so stick a finger in a dogs ass, this one is pathetic, im personally an unwelcome fan due to liking Jimin. Just really negative

U are right. Sticking to analysing the work and the signs and the speculating about things is good. But dragging and hating on the guys is way offside into the negative.

I still hope bts can turn their alives around one day

 

[AndrAt3A]

I can totally agree with alot of what ur saying.

Some people here are downright derogatory to BTS which I mean I dont get, some seem to have intense hatred towards them and yet dissect everything they do. Its bizarre to be honest. I can only take it as a negative obsession.

The ILLUMINATI influence, freemasonry evidence, and other satanic symbolism etc etc is extremely evident in Bts. But u are right attacking the members in the way some people do is just wrong because this is merely speculation and attacking them just cant be right. At times im disappointed with bts, sometimes im upset with them like wwhhhyyyy. However this thread at times has turned me off them for a minute but never entirely

I still look at these people and have compassion and still see people that even if are doing weird stuff now, must have some good in them. Ppl have said weird stuff here to he honest like did so and so stick a finger in a dogs ass, this one is pathetic, im personally an unwelcome fan due to liking Jimin. Just really negative

U are right. Sticking to analysing the work and the signs and the speculating about things is good. But dragging and hating on the guys is way offside into the negative.

I still hope bts can turn their alives around one day

Where did someone post something about a member doing that to a dog??? Did I miss something? I have ignored some people on this thread. I dont see everything posted, but that's wild.

Also I highly suggest that ignore button instead of just complaining about other people here, this is a public forum just ignore what you dont agree with or what you dont believe in, post what you want to and keep it moving. It's much more freeing to not acknowledge negativity if you don't want to.

 

[Hon33]

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Yep, I saw somebody on reddit talk about this too as well as the Momo, gay thing and the shock over her dating Heechul (which goes to show queer-baiting is a part of the k-pop industry) I mean I was shocked too, but mainly because of the age gap.
Also, I'm sorry if I posted this before and this probably won't come as a surprise to you but I was shocked to find out that Rem doesn't have an IQ of '148', at least not according to this episode of Problematic Men in which he took a WAIS (Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale) test and actually only got 120.

Have fun watching him squirm and writhe in his insecurity disguised as grandiose as his persona he takes great pride in falls apart before your eyes.
Watch the videos of Taehyung displaying all 8 types of intelligence and be further convinced that he is the true genius of Btes (but might not be for much longer if he keeps up his vaping thing).

Bighit tried to paint him as a dummy, but it got old, so now he's a tsundere genius and everyone says he looks like Todoroki.
Bottom of the story is, these guys we think we see are but an image, no more than a product conveniently packaged into bite-sized, one dimensional, idealized boxes. Relegated to tropes because humans by default are too lazy to see beyond the surface
I found tropes that seem to fit their image easily on TV Tropes
JIN: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GentlemanSnarker
YOONGI: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkWithAHeartOfGold
HOBI:https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SadClown
REM:https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GeniusDitz
JIM: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Bishonen
TAE: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCharmer
JK: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JackOfAllTrades or https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheAce
Speaking of Personas, I didn't noticed this before, but in their song Persona REM mentions:
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What does he mean by "Pretending to be evil"?
What purpose does that serve?
I'm curious what your thoughts on this are? Why would someone 'pretend to be evil'? Is it an excuse to brush of their evil actions?

There is huge debate around the value of intelligence testing. It can vary greatly from one day to another and has so many external influences that it really isn’t reliable.

 

[JINtercession]

These are really good points you gave and definitely something to think about regarding the members.

As for your faith I feel like it’s normal to question things. But do not get it twisted God does not send anyone to hell. He died for all of mankind specifically so that would NOT happen. One of the greatest things God has given us in life is choice. Peoples choice to follow him or not.
Our God is a gracious, compassionate, loving God. It is written that he cries and aches for mankind, seeing all the vile things that go on in the world nowadays.
It is also written that we should “fear” God. It sounds kinda intense but not fear in the way where we should be scared of him because he’s mean to put it in simple terms but to not take advantage of the fact that he’s so loving and forgiving to continuously live in sin thinking it’s fine cause God will just forgive us no matter what right?
Don’t let anything make you think differently about God not being pure love because that’s who he is!

I'm really thankful for what you've said to me because I've been going through a season where I've been questioning my faith a lot. For some context as to why, there was a catalyst who I can partially thank for my sudden influx of questions, let's just call her Cassandra. Cassandra is a psych student who met me coincidentally when I was at an event with my brother and she was a very friendly, charming and gregarious girl. Through her flattery, she conditioned me to become emotionally vulnerable with her and thus gain her loyalty.

Cassandra seemed just fine until she started a Bible study with a ranking system and I was placed on the same rung as a new believer, although I've been a born again Christian for nearly a decade now. She had a certain way of interpreting verses and was set out to teach us to read the Bible properly. Cassandra was also very dismissive of prophecy and signs because she was almost coerced into a cult in the past. Anything I said would be questioned with a probe but the nail in the coffin was during a conversation when she started trying to convince me to see the Bible through Calvinistic eyes and that this would be a 'turning point in my faith' and to be honest the week following was such a difficult week because it almost was a turning point in my faith- as in it not existing anymore. Thankfully I had a loving family to discuss it with who helped me reconcile it a bit, but verses like Romans 9 still baffle me and I pray for God to reveal the truth to me (and anyone else questioning about these things). When I told her it wasn't the Bible study for me she used emotional manipulation to try and get me to stay and even watch videos affirming the Calvinistic view on predestination together, so I had made my firm decision as I think it would be for the better for me to unintentionally hurt someone's feelings (which was being weaponized anyway) than lose my faith over a doctrine/school of thought and face eternal judgement.

It was a difficult decision to make as I felt we had a genuine connection and we've had some similar interests and she actually took interest in my prayer schedule (which is something important to me) so I felt obligated to take interest in her Bible study as it was important to her too. We even had the same myer briggs personality type! (ENFP, same as Tae and REM, although I do question their myer briggs test results sometimes as I do everything) and I've come to realize after observation, that my personality type can have a dark side as all do, which I believe to be a manipulative/clingy/controlling edge, but I believe in treating others as I'd like to be treated, so I've always made it a point not to tap into it even though I could (ok, well I suppose I sent my dad a bunch of emails begging him to get a dog when I was 10 and it worked). We see Tae tap into this when he manipulates armys on Weverse and Vlive, toying with their emotions and playing hard to get and Rem when he manipulated members to stay and fun fact: he was the one who coined the term 'Golden Maknae' and persuaded him to stay in the group when he was planning on leaving.
Now. Somebody (I think @wow) did mention that they think REM is not an ENFP but an INFJ and I can understand why they may come to that conclusion as it seems as though his dominant function could be that of an INFJ sometimes

However if we look at the full set of functions of the ENFP and how they tend to pan out, we can see he gives preference to his Ne and Te which you would see in V lives where he explains albums and stuff or in interviews whereas an INFJ would not prioritise these functions.


However the accuracy of the MBTI test in itself is debatable and should be taken with a grain of salt and if everything or most things we see from BH's side is all scripted down to weverse posts, we may very well just can everything I just wrote anyway, lol

There is huge debate around the value of intelligence testing. It can vary greatly from one day to another and has so many external influences that it really isn’t reliable.

Yes! I also agree with this, IQ is also hotly debated, however, the point I was trying to make is how BH capitalizes on a exaggerated positive attribute regarding these 'idols' and presents them on a silver platter to evoke the unending praise of its consumers. Now, that being said, they also do of course mix in a few negative attributes to make it believable and the members seem more relatable, but meticulously selected and monitored to be consumer-friendly enough to be palatable. For example, we may hear about JK biting his nails... But we don't hear about Sugar picking his nose do we? We see plenty of idols with depression or anxiety (Which may carry some stigma still, but generally speaking, it has become fairly socially acceptable, almost to the point where it's trendy), but never on the ASD spectrum, which I personally believe is comparatively stigmatized and honestly the butt of many people's jokes on the internet (And even I myself can attest to the double standards people have and the contrasting ways in which they may treat such individuals who happen to have the conditions).

I can totally agree with alot of what ur saying.

Some people here are downright derogatory to BTS which I mean I dont get, some seem to have intense hatred towards them and yet dissect everything they do. Its bizarre to be honest. I can only take it as a negative obsession.

The ILLUMINATI influence, freemasonry evidence, and other satanic symbolism etc etc is extremely evident in Bts. But u are right attacking the members in the way some people do is just wrong because this is merely speculation and attacking them just cant be right. At times im disappointed with bts, sometimes im upset with them like wwhhhyyyy. However this thread at times has turned me off them for a minute but never entirely

I still look at these people and have compassion and still see people that even if are doing weird stuff now, must have some good in them. Ppl have said weird stuff here to he honest like did so and so stick a finger in a dogs ass, this one is pathetic, im personally an unwelcome fan due to liking Jimin. Just really negative

U are right. Sticking to analysing the work and the signs and the speculating about things is good. But dragging and hating on the guys is way offside into the negative.

I still hope bts can turn their alives around one day

100% agree with what you've said here. It's important to remember that insulting people is a waste of our time and emotional energy and certainly not conducive to our research on the occult underpinnings of BTS. I too, hope and pray daily that BTS turn their hearts around.
I've honestly been feeling conflicted about being on here because it could easily become malice infested gossip fueled by channeling negative emotions into the critique of BTS but I return because I want to keep my tendency to idolize people in check and I enjoy reading people's intriguing theories. Some things written here are also very informative and help me think of new things to pray for regarding the members and the global situation as a whole and I'm thankful for that.

 

[mimis]

Sorry, not bts related but I felt like sharing:

The image of the Antichrist, taken from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem completely matches the Terminator face. I can't believe the amount of brainwashing that goes into all of these hellywood movies! Also Tamara explained in the video that 12 years ago she had a dream of the Antichrist getting ready for his final flesh form being illuminated in pale green light. And Brazil recently lit up the Christ the Redeemer statue in honor of the Covid-19 doctors and it was ILLUMINATED IN PALE GREEN LIGHT
Creepy! Guess the end is nearer than we imagine! They created this coronavirus outbreak with the purpouse of isolating us and keeping us busy with the virus news so they can prepare the arrival of the Antichrist!

 

[TheNightDuck]

Sorry, not bts related but I felt like sharing:

The image of the Antichrist, taken from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem completely matches the Terminator face. I can't believe the amount of brainwashing that goes into all of these hellywood movies! Also Tamara explained in the video that 12 years ago she had a dream of the Antichrist getting ready for his final flesh form being illuminated in pale green light. And Brazil recently lit up the Christ the Redeemer statue in honor of the Covid-19 doctors and it was ILLUMINATED IN PALE GREEN LIGHT
Creepy! Guess the end is nearer than we imagine! They created this coronavirus outbreak with the purpouse of isolating us and keeping us busy with the virus news so they can prepare the arrival of the Antichrist!

Thanks for sharing!!

 

[TheNightDuck]

Sorry, not bts related but I felt like sharing:

The image of the Antichrist, taken from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem completely matches the Terminator face. I can't believe the amount of brainwashing that goes into all of these hellywood movies! Also Tamara explained in the video that 12 years ago she had a dream of the Antichrist getting ready for his final flesh form being illuminated in pale green light. And Brazil recently lit up the Christ the Redeemer statue in honor of the Covid-19 doctors and it was ILLUMINATED IN PALE GREEN LIGHT
Creepy! Guess the end is nearer than we imagine! They created this coronavirus outbreak with the purpouse of isolating us and keeping us busy with the virus news so they can prepare the arrival of the Antichrist!

U know whats funny. At the grammys when BTS performed with lil nas x, he hopped out of the frame into a stage with a huge transluscent skull illuminated with a pale neon green light.....did u see it????? Iv posted about this before dont know if u saw