Just to be clear - when I offered a definition of masculinity in my post earlier of what people might think was masculine, I was doing so to show you that there is no actual definition of masculine. When I described Yuta as masculine I did do within what a traditional view of masculine might look like. Not knowing any of them in real life I can’t comment definitively on how masculine he is - not can you!
As regards your definition of high and low value men and women. If only life were that straightforward that everyone could be separated into two groups the way you try to. In real life, I’m guessing you will find that no one fits your definition of low value or high value in a perfect way. People are individuals. Who they are and what they are is influenced by so many different things. They don’t fit into the categories you want to put them in. Life just isn’t that simple.
I don’t assume that I know what any celebrity’s personality is, Kpop or otherwise. In fact, I don’t really assume to ever know anyone’s true personality. I have known my husband since I was 14 - although we were not a couple then. We have been married for almost 26 years. I probably know him better than he does himself but occasionally, he still does things I don’t expect him to do. Is he all if the things you describe above? No, he’s not. Is he the perfect husband? Pretty much, to be honest. Would he be your perfect husband? Probably not.
Everyone has different needs and desires. They are influenced by their experiences, their culture, their religious background etc, etc . What might be high value to me will not be to you. You can’t put people into boxes. People just are what they are and no one is perfect, all of the time. Perfect doesn’t exist. If you’re looking for it, you’re not going to find it.
First off Yuta still isn't traditionally masculine, he looks incredibly feminine half of the time or looks like a fuckboy which isn't masculine either. Most of his fans call him pretty or gorgeous or that he looks angelic which arent terms generally used to describe masculine men.
Second off traits/characteristics =/=! Personality, you can have a bad personality and still be high value, although its hard lol
After reading this, I honestly feel incredibly sad for your daughters. You're teaching them to be low value women and pickmeishas. Please have your daughters read feminine dating strategy, the rules there are golden and teaches women to truly love themselves and to have standards and not to take bs from men and other low value women although the women can be a little mean. You are a low value woman and married a low value man and are defending your choices by saying he's perfect whilst telling me perfection doesn't exist.
90% of my description of a high value man does not differ from culture to religion. Be respectful, faithful, and consistent (these are traits you're ok with a hvm not having to you? So he's still high value if he cheats on you, disrespects you constantly, ignores you?) YOU literally just said that, not me.
A high value male provides financially across most religions and cultures, in 95% that's a basic requirement to provide financially. So we learn that you feel a man with no means to provide financially, mentally or physically is still high value. Cool, a high value man to you doesn't have to care about your happiness or his appearance or health. Cool, you feel a high value man can abuse you mentally,physically or verbally? Sweet. A man can just not care to make sure you're sexually satisfied and he's still high value to you? yikes my dear, just yikes.
Do you see WHY i'm calling you low value? You're telling me these basic human traits that every man and woman should have are impossible to have and thus i'm expecting perfection? I can tell you didn't thoroughly comprehend what I wrote, you do that a lot and you become emotionally charged in most of your answers and just write whatever to shut people up or try to make them seem they're not normal albeit a lot of people here do the same so I can't blame you for that.
High value men and women exist all the time in daily life, if you have a friend or coworker that is cheating on their spouse - low value , a spouse that doesn't help raise the kids 50/50 = low value, doesn't at least try to actually help with cooking or cleaning or doesn't cook or clean = low value, secretly hides their money from a normal spouse = low value, doesn't respect their spouse = low value, constantly doing things knowing their spouse doesn't like it/want it/has a fear of it= low value, not willing to communicate issues to their spouse = low value, these are just a few examples of basic stuff a low value man would do and you're telling me you're totally fine with it. Disabled people are not an exemption either, my mom was paralyzed for 2 years and still tried to help my dad around the house.
You and I both know that women in oppressive cultures would love if their man didn't do most of what i pointed out as low value, you and I both know it. But if you had actually read and comprehended what I wrote you wouldn't have disagreed with what I said.
"Is he all if the things you describe above? No, he’s not.
Is he the perfect husband? Pretty much, to be honest." You couldn't even describe what he does do that is high value, so 9 times out of 10 he has little to no high value traits. You couldn't even post well he doesn't do all of that but he does x,y,z for me and our family. The fact you cant even point out what he does for you guys is incredibly sad and shows what little standards you were taught by your mother/father. If I were in your position I could easily describe what high value traits my ex had/has.
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People just are what they are and no one is perfect, all of the time. Perfect doesn’t exist. If you’re looking for it, you’re not going to find it." But you said your husband is the perfect husband but then you also said he lacks at least half to most basic traits to be a high value male so how does that work? I know you're going to say something like i don't have to explain that to you, etc because all low value women are like broken records. I literally hear and read the same stuff you spew in different formats from friends in real life to women over the internet. It's incredibly depressing and you all deserve more than that but you're going to continue to disagree with me.
I agree no one is perfect, a one off of some low value traits will happen but if it's consistent or your spouse decides to not get help they're low value. I had my father and mother teach me what a high value male looks like and they still do till this day, I understand that most women don't have that type of role model in their life or they're just desperate for male attention but once you know better do better is my motto.