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And that is on the top end of the spectrum after years and years of working experience and its still not enough for the amount of hours they work and the things they deal with.
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Ok I get what your saying... I don’t know how feasible it is when both the things that matter to the field, and the conditions the members of the field are working in actually need attention.
If we want healthcare to improve then we really need to - as citizens of this country - take some initiative here and demand it. It’s our money that’s paying for it, one way or another.
@rainerann there are doctors that only take cash, no insurance. Quality of care is significantly higher. When I couldn’t get adequate care for my son with insurance I spent my life savings taking him to one and thank god I did. Once he got properly diagnosed and on the right medication I took him back to the insurance doctors for maintenance.
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Anyone under this range that you are talking about and over the earned income tax credit limit is the group that I am talking about. Not the super top. Basically, I just don't consider them economically essential since they want to horde what they have and limit the number of people who are equal with them anyway.
Our middle class gets screwed over by federal taxes because they take what they could reasonably use towards a local universal healthcare system. Basically, anyone working in healthcare is in this category, so there are a lot more people to make this possible than it seems sometimes.
I said I didnt trust the source. Thanks
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I would imagine not going through insurance companies create an incentive for this to a degree because they are a pain. Sometimes, the administration makes it seem like there should be a difference, but most of us joke about how they do this, and it isn't something that is applied in practice. That is what I meant.
It was still funny tho.I said I didnt trust the source. Thanks
Really rich people get healthcare outside of the system we get it in. That’s kinda my point. Doctors that don’t take insurance and medical concierge services.
I’m not saying doctors inside the system treat clients different based on funding source. I get it that insurance in gerneral puts a lot of pressure on you guys to do things in the least amount of time possible etc.
Insurance psychiatrist = diagnosis in five mjnutes
Private pay = two hours and possibly more
I already see how this is going to be a problem when I get my clinical license. Most of my work will be writing plans, analyzing data and adjusting.. those are all non billable activities so there is an incentive to not spend the proper amount of time on a client and just dial it in. It’s screwed up.
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In the US, that is not actually the high end of the spectrum. The lowest average salary for a nurse in the US is around 60,000 and this in South Dakota, which is the slightly lower cost of living. The high end after years of training is still probably going to be around 100,000 for supervisory nurses, managers, or specialties. The average salary for a nurse in Oregon with a slightly higher cost of living is 92,000, which would mean that you would be around 140,000 a year for nurse supervisors, managers, and specialties after years of training.
In the US, it is still one of the best paying jobs you can get with an associate degree. In some cases, you can make more money as a first year nurse than you can after graduating with a degree in computer science. Nurses aren't hurting for money or respect, but there are a lot of people who are not familiar with the culture that is created in nursing still, or that it is a dirty job.
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Old school nurses will actually sometimes comment that care is affected by new nurses who became a nurse because it was a good paying job rather than feeling called to be a nurse for other reasons like many people did in the past when the salaries were not as good as they are now.
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yeah you’d be surprised how many vacations a nurse can go on. And you can be a nurse with an associate degree from a junior college so you don’t actually end up with student loans in most cases. So it is more than comfortable most of the time.I was off
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Still that’s not a ton and being at or slight above cost of living doesn’t leave with you a much. Factor in student loan repayments here and gets murkier
the only thing I would dispute is the way a nurse is taxed because every one of them will be outside the earned income tax bracket and are going to be the group that feels the federal tax amount much more than any other group because they are comfortable but not that comfortable.
they are also going to be the most generous group if they had that tax money back. I truly believe if this group got their federal tax money back, many communities would look much different.
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This is one of the positives of the COVID19 crisis: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-26/pokies-addicts-kick-habit-during-coronavirus-venues-shutdown/12183018
I really hope addicts of all varieties are going to keep clean when things return to normal again,
Have your countries shown similar changes too?
I really hope addicts of all varieties are going to keep clean when things return to normal again,
Have your countries shown similar changes too?
Don’t know. No one seems to be compiling that data
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SA hits coronavirus milestone with zero cases again
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NY Reports 12 Straight Days of Decline in Coronavirus Hospitalizations
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It depends. Alcoholics and addicts on the street haven't had much access to help.
Cops have broken up outdoor meetings in some cities.
Many people have died and OD'ed I am sure.
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It’s funny how the governor refuses to acknowledge all the presumed deaths that were added to figures and certain news sources as well.. well, not funny really but idk what to make of it.NY Reports 12 Straight Days of Decline in Coronavirus Hospitalizations
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Would access to meetings help? Virtual?
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I think I missed what you are referring to. I remember him saying something about trying to get an idea of how many people were dying in homes and including these, but never really followed what that meant. Is that along the lines of what you’re talking about?
I did just happen to read that some coroners in PA are questioning some of the deaths that are being recorded there, I support the coroners recommendations, but also don’t find that I mind probable deaths so much. I was looking up how many people died during the h1n1 experience today and they gave a range between like 150,000 and 500,000 deaths worldwide. That’s a pretty big discrepancy so I don’t expect this to be an super exact thing.
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^ includes probable deaths as reported by NYC DOH, every day the governors numbers differ from the numbers being tracked, and that articles total numbers also differ.
I don’t have a problem with the probable deaths being included because the people had symptoms but because of stringent testing limits didn’t get a test. It’s not like they got hit by a bus (which my sister in law seriously tried to argue with me). But the governor for some reason doesn’t include them.