Coronavirus

[vancityeagle]

do you actually believe in the things you type or do you just try and irritate people?

I actually think a lot of these kind of people believe what they are saying. They are so far gone that they cannot think rational anymore. Its just about waving your flag and supporting it no matter what. All objectivity has long gone.

 

[Maes17]

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Yeah. Damn fuckers

 

[vancityeagle]

Yes for an updated Turner diaries see “Victoria” by William S. Lind.

Donald Trump Meets William S. Lind

In the Spring of 2016, Donald Trump met a man whose ideas helped inspire one of Europe’s worst terrorist attacks in decades; a man who has suggested his ideas helped inspire al-Qaeda’s …

4thgenwar.wordpress.com

thanks wasn't aware of that book, although I had long known about Lind as one of the guys who revived the old Nazi "cultural marxist" conspiracy theory.

Fine company Trump keeps isn't it ?

 

[lightseeker]

Im no Maoist Tankie, but Mao was right about landlords, just saying.

Shame he wasn’t right about anything else

 

[lightseeker]

Not to say that murdering 5 million people because they own land is a good idea either. So he wasn’t right about anything

 

[lightseeker]

Ok. We all know what side you are on light seeker/bible student and just how ok with mass murder you are.

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I’m not the advocating for it. If you want to do your hate on nazis thing maybe gets your principles in order. Not just “”they should have murdered 6 million different people””

 

[lightseeker]

Google the word facetious lol. I think landlords are parasites but they shouldn’t be Mao’d lol. Damn I know a guy like you supports the ideas of the Turner Diaries or Lind’s Victoria. If you ever had any power there would be billions of world wide deaths.

I don’t even know what those are. Not going to grind this in but mao was a pile of shit wh killed monks in monestaries and if you are so against mass murder and totalitarianism you shouldn’t make light of him. People are still living under the consequences of his actions

 

[Aero]

So the argument starts with: unemployment doesn’t pay enough.

Answer: they increased it so it should cover almost all if not all wages right now

Argument changes: how come people can’t pay rent then

Answer: it’s taking longer to get the benefits B.C. of xyz but be patient because it’s stabilizing now and people can start getting there benefits

Argument changes: but that’s going to deplete the tax fund! Whose going to pay for it!

Why don’t we ever ask that about corporate bailouts, tax cuts for the rich, war, space forces, border walls, international monetary aid??

I’ve literally paid into unemployment my whole life. This is only the second time I’ll have to use it, the first being after the 2008 crash. I shouldn’t have to justify utilizing a program I’ve paid into for twenty years during a global crisis where staying home CAN save more money in the long run then it’s going to cost us to try to avoid the worst outcomes (health and economy) on the front end.

Unemployment insurance exists for exactly this purpose. If that’s a problem then maybe we should be evaluating what the hell the government did - how they misappropriated funds perhaps - that would destroy unemployment’s ability to function in the way it was designed?

The argument didn't change though. The argument was always that unemployment insurance seems like it would fail under the pressure or not be enough. And it literally is failing, and it's not enough.

States Burn Through Cash for Unemployment Payments

New York has asked the federal government for a $4 billion no-interest loan to cover unemployment payments for people put out of work by the pandemic as states burn through funds set aside for jobless claims.

www.wsj.com

Furthermore, the problems stated don't magically vanish because you gave a decent enough answer. When everyone is getting the checks and paying rent you are free to say I told you so. But that's not happening yet. All the data I can find paints the picture of a total shitshow.

In any case, nobody is asking you to justify taking unemployment. The point here is that people are going to get kicked out of their fucking homes. And that needs to be addressed in a common-sense manner. It seems like you agree with the idea of total rent forgiveness, so I find some of your comments to be confusing.

It's like you know I'm right but can't put your emotions aside. You apparently think the country should be shut down for a completely arbitrary amount of time. To that sentiment I say, the shut down would be fine if we saw some results, but we aren't. We have no clue if the stay at home orders are doing anything positive.

Some states are already planning to re-open and that's smart because the lawsuits are going to start flying. And businesses should sue these idiotic state and local governments. Oh let's shut down the landscapers, then cite people for having an ugly lawn. Let's leave liquor stores and lottery running? Hmm that all makes a lot of sense. Like in which scenario is there more close human contact? Hiring a guy to cut your grass, or bouncing around gas stations to get a lottery and liquor fix. Tough one!

I don't want anyone to die either, but let's turn on our brains here. The stay at home order is a half-assed, double standard type of bullshit. Outside of the major hot zones, it's completely unnecessary.

 

[intoxifaded]

Spotted at the Lansing MI protests

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Told you they weren’t protestors just trying to get back to work. They are terrorists.

I'm far from a Trump/Pence supporter and I think that's an agent provocateur.

During the Black Lives Matters protests in Los Angeles, I saw one in person who was comically obnoxious, obviously there to cause a reaction from people and to manipulate the protestors in a way that would justify police action against them.

The agent I saw literally looked like Homer Simpson irl, he showed up "alone" and after failing to get people to get violent with him (though people got VERY close), he was suddenly talking to the police later on during the march, very seriously, dropping the "dumb and loud" act extremely quickly.

My experience is why I believe that's an agent provocateur. While there's absolutely neo-nazis in support of Trump, they're never going to be that obvious. Plus, the guy has sunglasses on. I've never seen a Neo-Nazi who wears glasses to hide their identity while displaying their white supremacy. It's just not typical.

 

[justjess]

I think there should be rent forgiveness because 1) there are still people that are falling through the cracks (off the books as I mentioned previously) and more importantly 2) homeowners were granted mortgage relief - the payments they are missing if they need to miss them are just being moved to the back of their loan. If they get relief it should be passed on to their tenants. But in most cases it isn’t

This has nothing to do with my emotions. I’m watching it migrate out from NY in the ways it could have been predicted to do so. Spread to jersey and Connecticut, then up to Massachusetts and Pennsylvania, and I’m watching Ohio’s numbers go up on a daily basis now.. it’s spreading outward. If there were NO mitigation efforts Pennsylvania and Massachusetts etc would already look like ny, and Ohio and all the rest wouldn’t be far behind.

Just based on human behavior - you can not have different rules for different places. It won’t work how it’s planned. People in a spot that isn’t open will see the restrictions lifted elsewhere and lower their own guard because it must not be that bad, shit I just want to go to a bar.. let’s take a road trip. And constitutionally they can’t shut down interstate travel. If you have three kids all three kids have to have the same rules otherwise it’s mutiny across the board.

Idk why or what you are talking about in my own state EVERYTHING is shut down. Contractors and liquor stores. Gas stations are open because it’s needed but you need to wear masks (anywhere that’s open).

I don’t know what the answer is. I do know that people shouldn’t be forced to trade their safety for a paycheck. And that’s what reopening before we figure out the answer amounts to.

 

[intoxifaded]

Canada Day has officially been cancelled. Online celebrations only. Virtual fireworks? I wonder if America will cancel July 4 activities.

Never, we love our illegal fireworks down here.

The opening ceremony of Olympic games in London, 2012 was Predictive programing

This was crazy disturbing. I can't even wrap my head around how this was supposed to be passed off as artistic or inspiring.

 

[Aero]

Nobody knows how the virus migrated. We are so far behind on tracking that it's all a guessing game.

My previous post was alluding to what's going on in Michigan, but there's probably plenty of similar cases I can cite. In Ohio, people can pretty much still do whatever they want. Except for spend their money outside of the few chosen businesses that can stay open AND completely flout the rules.

I was at a car dealership yesterday and there were more people than any party I've ever thrown. I saw one mask and zero social distancing. Two days ago the store I work at couldn't even manage to wash the damn floors. And I was there that night, there was literally nothing for the night crew to do besides washing the floor, and they didn't.

Even the girls over at "Great Clips" can wash their damn floors. But they aren't allowed to stay open. Because masks and hand washing isn't enough! I have to keep away from there while being allowed to work for the trashbag company that can't wash a floor or get anyone to do much of anything.

I agree everyone should have the same rules. And I wish human behavior factored into public policy, but it doesn't. Not on any level whatsoever.

 

[seekinheart]

Never, we love our illegal fireworks down here.

This was crazy disturbing. I can't even wrap my head around how this was supposed to be passed off as artistic or inspiring.

Good catch, video really shows some predictive programming.

 

[UnderAlienControl]

Sewer systems are a window into the coronavirus pandemic

The virus comes out your nose, but it also comes out your butt.

www.theverge.com

Over 80 Washington Police Officers Test Positive for COVID-19, Two Hospitalised - Chief

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - The Washington Metropolitan Police Department reported 82 positive coronavirus tests among its officers while two servicemen remain in the hospital, Chief Peter Newsham told reporters on Monday.

sputniknews.com

Virologists 'Concerned' to See 80 Percent of COVID-19 Cases in India Asymptomatic

New Delhi (Sputnik): Despite the Indian government giving permission to some sectors to resume work amid the lockdown, the number of COVID-19 has been growing. According to the Health Ministry, the country has over 17,200 coronavirus...

sputniknews.com

Netizens Rejoice as COVID-19 Doubling Rate Slows in India, Several States Become 'Corona-Free'

New Delhi (Sputnik): COVID-19 began spreading in India towards the end of January. At the time, ways to contain the virus outbreak in a country as vast and as densely populated as India seemed tough, but a nationwide lockdown announced by...

sputniknews.com

Governors slam Trump's call to 'liberate' states where protesters object to coronavirus restrictions

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www.usatoday.com

New Jersey Resident Faces Criminal Charges for Organising Protest Against Stay-at-Home Order

Protests have been taking place in various US states in the past few days, with people calling for the lifting of lockdown measures introduced to curb the spread of COVID-19.

sputniknews.com

Hundreds swarm Florida beaches following reopening amid pandemic

thehill.com

Blood clots are the latest life-threatening complication of the coronavirus, but doctors aren't sure how to treat them

Doctors are seeing blood clots in coronavirus patients, and some are dying even after they've recovered enough to leave the hospital.

www.businessinsider.com

Sweden Says Controversial Virus Strategy Proving Effective

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[thursdayafternoon]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. However, please note that testing for COVID–19 should be conducted whenever possible.

NO TESTING!

We have record of physicians and hospitals being paid to mis-code their diagnostic and billing numbers to indicate “COVID-19” instead of plain pneumonia because hospitals are reimbursed $39,000 instead of just $13,000 for COVID-19! There is a financial incentive to list COVID-19 on death certificates. Normally Medicare or the AMA would issue billing code information. This directive comes from the CDC. The federal government, namely the CDC, is bribing doctors and hospitals to mis-code Medicare billing and then using that fake data to lockdown the citizenry.

Test, out
Money, in
If the second news is true, there is nothing to argue about.

 

[Karlysymon]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/21/debt-jubilee-is-only-way-avoid-depression/%3foutputType=amp

Like I’ve said what needs to trend is #DebtJubilee2020 that’s the beginning of fixing things

When i read this, i thought to myself: you know what, this is the perfect topic for the upcoming CUFI summit (John Hagee) in DC. Since he wields alot of power, he should get the government to declare 2020 a Jubilee year in America....for Israel's sake (only way it would gain tract).

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"Medicare for all" might sound like a scary proposal, especially to those more in favor of the warfare state than welfare state

 

[illuminatimess]

When i read this, i thought to myself: you know what, this is the perfect topic for the upcoming CUFI summit (John Hagee) in DC. Since he wields alot of power, he should get the government to declare 2020 a Jubilee year in America....for Israel's sake (only way it would gain tract).


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The fact that he was displayed as a communist is quite amusing. What would Americans think of the leftist politicians in Europe? Lol

 

[Lurker]

What would Americans think of the leftist politicians in Europe?

I can't seem to find the right word for it. I remember thinking how Piers Morgan started to seem somewhat center after going back across the pond.

 

[illuminatimess]

I don’t even know what those are. Not going to grind this in but mao was a pile of shit wh killed monks in monestaries and if you are so against mass murder and totalitarianism you shouldn’t make light of him. People are still living under the consequences of his actions

And people are living under the consequences of American warmongers. Additionally, media ignites wars by reporting fake stories. They have to be dragged to tribunal like Bush et al

 

[Lisa]

Simultaneously, Trump has been egging onvarious anti-quarantine protests around the country. As stated in the Quinnipiac poll, some 70 percent of Republicans agree with the idea of stay-at-home orders. Thanks to the organizational skills of a few gun-rights activists who think the NRA is too soft, a “movement” to defy the stay-at-home orders has been fomented online.

“A trio of far-right, pro-gun provocateurs is behind some of the largest Facebook groups calling for anti-quarantine protests around the country, offering the latest illustration that some seemingly organic demonstrations are being engineered by a network of conservative activists,” reportsThe Washington Post. “The online activity … helps cement the impression that opposition to the restrictions is more widespread than polling suggests.”

I think people just want to go back to work..