Coronavirus

[justjess]

Unemployment is only granted if you are seeking employment..that says that you shouldn’t be on it long...yet people can’t get off it right now and make it without working...that doesn‘t say temporary to me.

Typical of the foolish...companies don’t last without money coming in.

Do you know how much I’m paid? Do you know how much my company gets paid for every hour I work? Do you realize they literally can not collect revenue without us physically doing the work? You literally know nothing Lisa.

Stay home orders automatically qualify you for unemployment if your company was placed under them to any extent in my state. My company can not reopen services until they are lifted and once they are if our clients parents aren’t comfortable - not our fault. Our clients parents are more loyal to us then the company. Go figure.

 

[rainerann]

I don’t think so. I’ve read articles about babies falling out of windows and living. My husband had cancer and lived to tell the tale. His mom was dying of cancer and every time we thought she couldn’t make it another day..us and the drs..she rallied and lived another day. I remember one time that they really thought she only had hours but hours later she was up and eating. Life is like that though. The only reason people think life is fragile is because of our minds..we don’t think we can go on, but our bodies do.

My husband’s friend is an alcoholic and was into drugs..I didn’t really think he’d last this long, but he has. People continually amaze me how they can live through the most horrible of circumstances and keep going. I think of how hearing about aborted babies living through that experience, no life isn’t that fragile.

The concept of being vulnerable is universal and is not proven or disproven by stories of how many women died in childbirth versus how many babies survived after falling out of windows. Everyone has vulnerability to the same experience with chance as anyone else. Some will end up dying giving birth under the best circumstances. Others will be able to give birth in the backseat of a taxi without complications. It is fortunate that people in your examples didn't end up dying. Many people do and all people will at some point because life is fragile.

"Human life is fragile: we live in the space between one breath and the next. We often try to maintain an illusion of permanence, through what we do, say, wear, buy, and how we enjoy ourselves and who and how we love. Yet it is an illusion that is constantly being undermined by change and death. We can use diamonds in whatever way we like. They are empty things, pretty as water, yet within them—if we want to see it—there is blood, dust, love, curses, and suffering. There is desire to make someone happy, there is admiration, there is ostentation…and there is a company’s profit curve."

Victoria Finlay

 

[Lisa]

Do you know how much I’m paid? Do you know how much my company gets paid for every hour I work? Do you realize they literally can not collect revenue without us physically doing the work? You literally know nothing Lisa.

Stay home orders automatically qualify you for unemployment if your company was placed under them to any extent in my state. My company can not reopen services until they are lifted and once they are if our clients parents aren’t comfortable - not our fault. Our clients parents are more loyal to us then the company. Go figure.

You do realize that you are expendable..they could always get someone else to take your place.

Doesn’t sound like its your companies fault either.

 

[Lisa]

The concept of being vulnerable is universal and is not proven or disproven by stories of how many women died in childbirth versus how many babies survived after falling out of windows. Everyone has vulnerability to the same experience with chance as anyone else. Some will end up dying giving birth under the best circumstances. Others will be able to give birth in the backseat of a taxi without complications. It is fortunate that people in your examples didn't end up dying. Many people do and all people will at some point because life is fragile.

"Human life is fragile: we live in the space between one breath and the next. We often try to maintain an illusion of permanence, through what we do, say, wear, buy, and how we enjoy ourselves and who and how we love. Yet it is an illusion that is constantly being undermined by change and death. We can use diamonds in whatever way we like. They are empty things, pretty as water, yet within them—if we want to see it—there is blood, dust, love, curses, and suffering. There is desire to make someone happy, there is admiration, there is ostentation…and there is a company’s profit curve."

Victoria Finlay

True...we all will eventually die...but usually not without a fight first. I think of all the kids at the children’s hospitals fighting to live everyday. People would rather live than die even if they have a defeatist attitude towards their lives.

 

[justjess]

You do realize that you are expendable..they could always get someone else to take your place.

Doesn’t sound like its your companies fault either.

No sweetheart, I’m not. Skilled work that requires specific training and degrees. There is an extreme shortage of workers for this field in my area. Extreme. That was even before the virus. They can’t just go “get someone else” - even if it was possible, our clients PARENTS (the ones who provide the revenue) want us.

You have a skewed perspective where it’s always the business owners win, not the case here. There are buyers and sellers markets in all things and the tides have turned.

 

[Lisa]

No sweetheart, I’m not. Skilled work that requires specific training and degrees. There is an extreme shortage of workers for this field in my area. Extreme. That was even before the virus. They can’t just go “get someone else” - even if it was possible, our clients PARENTS (the ones who provide the revenue) want us.

You have a skewed perspective where it’s always the business owners win, not the case here. There are buyers and sellers markets in all things and the tides have turned.

I doubt that the tide has turned...you still need the company.

 

[justjess]

I doubt that the tide has turned...you still need the company.

There’s like twenty I could choose from that are all in desperate need of staff. So no, not so much.

And even if they all went bust I don’t need a company, I need a clinical supervisor. I know plenty and if that was the case they’d all be providing independent services.

 

[justjess]

I hope your staff wises up and starts demanding hazard pay from you Lisa and whatever benefits they should be getting that you don’t provide.

 

[Lisa]

There’s like twenty I could choose from that are all in desperate need of staff. So no, not so much.

Then your company is in the minority. Especially when people are given the ok to go back to work. Though I did see a video where one guy said he was going to open his business anyway...can’t afford to be closed for the foreseeable future. I don’t blame the guy, and I’m sure his employees are happy to not be unemployed anymore.

 

[Lisa]

I hope your staff wises up and starts demanding hazard pay from you Lisa and whatever benefits they should be getting that you don’t provide.

What hazard pay? They don’t get many people that come into the office...and my husband has most of his staff working from home anyway. No ones benefits have been interrupted.

 

[justjess]

Then your company is in the minority. Especially when people are given the ok to go back to work. Though I did see a video where one guy said he was going to open his business anyway...can’t afford to be closed for the foreseeable future. I don’t blame the guy, and I’m sure his employees are happy to not be unemployed anymore.

They are yanking people’s business licenses here if they open despite government orders. So no, not worth it.

 

[justjess]

What hazard pay? They don’t get many people that come into the office...and my husband has most of his staff working from home anyway. No ones benefits have been interrupted.

For making them physically report to work in the middle of a pandemic. Becuase you deemed them essential and unable to work from home. They should get hazard pay. Clearly you can afford to sit home and do nothing.

 

[Cintra]

Ooh! The high priest of crappy death art is doing rainbows for charity.

Why not 2 dead corona victims suspended in a tank of blood?
Or is that only for sharks and sheep?

Damien Hirst’s rainbow giveaway

The artist is hoping to raise funds and spread joy with his latest artworks, created in response to the coronavirus crisis.

www.bbc.co.uk

This man is clearly a satanist.

 

[Lisa]

They are yanking people’s business licenses here if they open despite government orders. So no, not worth it.

He feels his company is over anyway...you can‘t forcibly close businesses and expect them to somehow make it...life doesn’t work like that.

 

[The Zone]

The only way to win against big data is to flood them with bad data...

They're only as powerful as their data. Therefore, we must provide random data. Humans can't be random - true. But we can create our own random machines. Words in a fishbowl. Pick words out of a dictionary. Run your own random generating software that runs random internet searches. Post random photos of random models online. Be as random as you can.

Swap cell phones with your friends.

YOU CAN BECOME INVISIBLE BENEATH FAKE DATA.

Of course they'll run algos that could parse out the randomness - the "noise" - well, that's when you get really creative...

Or better yet - use cash in all ways possible.

If only it were that easy. If you traded phones with a neighbor they'd track you off smart electronics and your credit cards which give off information t the smart devices and that would squelch that attempt. What some need to understand is they are already using predictive programming on what you will do from algorithms and data collected from the start, In short, they can read your moods. It is too late to fool them unless you go off-grid and such. It is possible to do that but one would have to alter their appearance these days from a long time in operation facial recognition. And we have seen nothing like Europeans there yet, save the local Wakmart which has long been a testing ground and data hoarder. Okay, now back to the petty back and forths

 

[justjess]

He feels his company is over anyway...you can‘t forcibly close businesses and expect them to somehow make it...life doesn’t work like that.

And yet, somehow, I will be able to reopen without issue as soon as I’m allowed with no government help since we don’t qualify since we haven’t been in business a year. Life works how you make it work Lisa.

 

[Karlysymon]

I just watched an interview of the director of China CDC, Dr George Gao Fu, who incidentally was present at the Event 201. He claimed that there still is no concrete evidence of human to human transmission (which obviously raises questions about face masks) . Apparently, the intermediary host is out there but that they haven't yet pinpointed it. He also emphasized the source of the outbreak as the wet market. He is a virologist with expertise in cross-species transmission.

So, i was left wondering at what exactly the audience is being told. This man was present at this pandemic exercise and is now still the head of the CDC branch in China. It then begs the question, how much is China's complicity in all this? And what's with all this back and forth between China and the USA about who the REAL source of the virus is (accusing each other of conspiracy theories)? The interview just seemed like a bag of truths and lies mixed together and that its up to the audience to untangle the whole mess....that's if they care to try.

Study: Reopening too soon could cause "exponential explosion" of COVID

Good news: social distancing is working.

futurism.com

Iam starting to think that this all going to be a nice little game. Demand to re-open then you'll see "second waves" that force people back in retreat. On again/Off again....

 

[Cintra]

Yes!
On again/off again.

And every time we need more laws, rules, restrictions.

 

[Aero]

If you can't pay your rent you should be allowed to go back to work, period.

When there are mass evictions and all those people crowd into some shelter, then get the virus. Those potential deaths are on the stay home crowd.

 

[justjess]

Yes!
On again/off again.

And every time we need more laws, rules, restrictions.

That’s what happened with the Spanish flu. The second wave killed more people then the first. That’s why I’m not to keen on being the first wave out tbh. I’m no ones guinea pig and imo if they rush it now they are going to be making things 100x worse in the long run