My Trump Questions

Devine

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So we all come to this site because we believe the main stream media is run by evil people pushing their evil agendas. Is that true? Which is why I am so surprised that everyone on this site is so against Trump. The mainstream media is telling us all day every day that we should hate him. So if the mainstream media is evil, and they hate trump, might there not be a chance that he is not as evil as they are? Or a different, lesser brand of evil?
I do not think he is a nice man. He is ugly. He is a giant nerd. He is a billionaire asshole who does shady ruthless business deals that hurt people. I get that. But the fact every media outlet, every celebrity, and every politician even republican is completely against him leads me to believe that he may have something good to offer.
Those of you who hate him, don't you think you may be being manipulated into feeling that way?
Let me end by saying that I have voted third party in every election since I turned 18, with the exception of Ron Paul as Republican. I only support who I think is trying to shake up the system. I am asking these questions because I have a sincere desire for us to understand each others' feelings. Let's have a discussion on this topic filled with light love and understanding thanks for your time guys.
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If i pray for Donald Trump to be Guided by The Almighty, that would mean that i'd have to be optimistic about him being offered Guidance.

If i am indeed optimistic about such and i hope with all my heart that it's indeed the case, it wouldn't be good for me to speak ill of him then.

What do you think?

It's like if i ask God to Give me something. For sure, i'm gonna get it, sooner or later. I can't then be showing any impatience or exasperation.

I also can't be going around telling people that hey you know i asked God to give me such and such and i'm still waiting! Not good, huh?
 

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I have certainly noticed that many take the same shots here as the media does against Trump. It is not about one man...the issues of today that is. People so easily fall into the left or right construct.
 

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If i pray for Donald Trump to be Guided by The Almighty, that would mean that i'd have to be optimistic about him being offered Guidance.

If i am indeed optimistic about such and i hope with all my heart that it's indeed the case, it wouldn't be good for me to speak ill of him then.

What do you think?

It's like if i ask God to Give me something. For sure, i'm gonna get it, sooner or later. I can't then be showing any impatience or exasperation.

I also can't be going around telling people that hey you know i asked God to give me such and such and i'm still waiting! Not good, huh?
nothing wrong with positive thinking!
 

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I have certainly noticed that many take the same shots here as the media does against Trump. It is not about one man...the issues of today that is. People so easily fall into the left or right construct.
Yes I feel like people are just saying about him whatever the news tells them to think and it freaks me out! Do you mean left and right in terms of party affiliation?
 

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Ugh..

I grew up and have lived my whole life in New Jersey and New York. Aka trump land. My opinions and utter disdain of him were cemented way before he ever got the egotistical idea to run for president.

I've know people who worked at his businesses he's stifed. People who own small businesses and did work for him with the same result. I've seen the devestation and havoc he caused in Atlantic City first hand. I've heard tenant complaints and followed those stories way before he entered politics.

The media doesn't have to tell me to dislike trump, I was already there.

When you look at who he chooses to surround himself with - I will limit this to Christie (my ex boss sorta) and Giuliani (who I would love to love because Italian but I absolutely can not because scumbag) the picture just gets clearer.

And yeah the media has gone hard on him. But pretty much everything they've said is true so while I might discard other things the media says I won't discard those because they are either 1) verifiably true or 2) likely to be true based on his character and past verifiable actions.
 

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I think Trump is risky to the "establishment" because he is a wild card. He is easily swayed into his opinions and then makes quick decisions. That's why his views have changed so much over the years. They aren't going to get rid of him as long as he behaves, but as long as the public hates him they can impeach him whenever they want. Right now, Trump is a good excuse for them the blow up the Middle East.
 

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Something is wrong with the media attention Trump gets. Like there is no way any other President took over the headlines like this. Everyday if it's not Trump it's someone on his team. It's a big distraction, but from what?

I had a strange thought that Trump could be the one to bring it all down. Like a Trojan horse. But who is really running him, I don't know.
 

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He seems like a terrible person but I think most of our presidents were terrible people that just hid their dark side. He was the chaos candidate and now he's the chaotic president. I agree with you though, the media makes great effort to show him as being horrible. Maybe it's because he's horrible. He did call Hillary out on stealing down in Haiti, but I guess he's just ballsy in general. He made a speech earlier this month about the finale and most important peace agreement regarding Palestine and Israel, but recently he signed a huge arms deal with Saudi Arabia....that doesn't sound peaceful to me.
 

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I think that the knowledge alone of whatever secret government programs are going on, is enough to corrupt any President. Because if we assume Mk ultra and all the occult symbolism is true. Than it all goes back to like the 1940's. Every single president was basically an MK Puppet. Even if they weren't all about mind control, they played the game. Kennedy didn't want to play Mk Ultra and he died under very strange circumstances. Think about it people.

And I hate to have to shatter the illusion that the "Liberals" are all behind this. It was George W. Bush that wanted to keep pushing the "killer" programming of Mk Ultra. He was like yes, let's kill people in their dreams. It was called the "Dreamscan" program or something.
 
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Ugh..

I grew up and have lived my whole life in New Jersey and New York. Aka trump land. My opinions and utter disdain of him were cemented way before he ever got the egotistical idea to run for president.

I've know people who worked at his businesses he's stifed. People who own small businesses and did work for him with the same result. I've seen the devestation and havoc he caused in Atlantic City first hand. I've heard tenant complaints and followed those stories way before he entered politics.

The media doesn't have to tell me to dislike trump, I was already there.

When you look at who he chooses to surround himself with - I will limit this to Christie (my ex boss sorta) and Giuliani (who I would love to love because Italian but I absolutely can not because scumbag) the picture just gets clearer.

And yeah the media has gone hard on him. But pretty much everything they've said is true so while I might discard other things the media says I won't discard those because they are either 1) verifiably true or 2) likely to be true based on his character and past verifiable actions.
I feel the same as you. Up until 2004 I lived my entire life in New York. I've disliked Trump long before he had his stupid show on tv. He was a misogynist jerk then and he's still the same today. He's not playing a role for America or the media., he's showing his true self. He's a lying narcissistic bully. He cares nothing for the general public or the environment. He only cares about money and power, the more the better in his eyes.
 
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