Westminster London Attacks - Similar to French attacks on St Bastilles day?

[Corvus Corax]

It's the polite way of calling people stupid.

That's a bit racist, isn't it?

 

[Lisa]

That's a bit racist, isn't it?

I thought it was just rude...but I have a feeling many people think the same thing.

 

[AspiringSoul]

That's a bit racist, isn't it?

American's aren't a race.

 

[mecca]

That's a bit racist, isn't it?

American's aren't a race.

Lol not racist, "country-ist"

 

[Thunderian]

Your previous post sounded sarcastic , hence my question

Here's a question:

What is an acceptable percentage to you of British Muslims who sympathize with terrorism?

If it's anything more than zero, I'd say we have a problem.

It's all well and good to blame Western powers for arming, inciting and otherwise being responsible for the kind of terror that takes place pretty frequently these days, but when 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK (with similar numbers among Muslims in other countries) are saying they understand, if not outright support, these acts, when do you suppose the right time is for Muslims who DON'T support terror to stand up and do something about it?

 

[Corvus Corax]

It seems to be negative stereotyping of an entire race or nation.

This is interesting. This happened in London, not long before last Christmas.
Of course, this wasn't a terrorist outrage. It was just a nutter on the tube.
It hardly got any coverage...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/12/train-passenger-stabbed-forest-hill-station-police-hunt-knifeman/

They are biased in what they show us, the way they report events and the weight they give them.
It's manipulation of our thoughts by limiting our knowledge and understanding.

 

[Corvus Corax]

OK, countryist!
It seemed to be negative stereotyping of an entire race or nation.

This is interesting. This happened in London, not long before last Christmas.
Of course, this wasn't a terrorist outrage. It was just a nutter on the tube.
It hardly got any coverage...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/12/train-passenger-stabbed-forest-hill-station-police-hunt-knifeman/

They are biased in what they show us, the way they report events and the weight they give them.
It's manipulation of our thoughts by limiting our knowledge and understanding.

 

[Aero]

They need to stress the psychological states of these attackers. In every single one of these cases they never explain what made them snap. I don't know much about homegrown terrorists, but a 52 year old doesn't seem to fit the profile. We have seen a lot of men that age go out in a fit of rage, but an actual terrorist? I don't buy it. Even when it's a white boy, they still don't explain them psychologically.

Nobody just gets in a car and mows people down. Followed by a stabbing spree because they are "radicalized". That person is psychotic and should be hunted down before they snap. We have all these cameras around us and for what? So maybe the authorities can have a picture after we get victimized? Thanks Big Brother!

 

[mecca]

That person is psychotic and should be hunted down before they snap.

Yes.

 

[Corvus Corax]

Everyone's angry.
There are just so many angry people around.
Driving through London is enough to push anyone over the edge.

 

[AspiringSoul]

I thought it was just rude...but I have a feeling many people think the same thing.

America is God's nation just like Israel
just like you and most americans are actually chatting with the God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
You guys are special./

 

[Lisa]

They need to stress the psychological states of these attackers. In every single one of these cases they never explain what made them snap. I don't know much about homegrown terrorists, but a 52 year old doesn't seem to fit the profile. We have seen a lot of men that age go out in a fit of rage, but an actual terrorist? I don't buy it. Even when it's a white boy, they still don't explain them psychologically.

Nobody just gets in a car and mows people down. Followed by a stabbing spree because they are "radicalized". That person is psychotic and should be hunted down before they snap. We have all these cameras around us and for what? So maybe the authorities can have a picture after we get victimized? Thanks Big Brother!

Isn't jihad the best way to get into heaven for a muslim otherwise its a little iffy?

 

[Lisa]

America is God's nation just like Israel
just like you and most americans are actually chatting with the God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
You guys are special./

No, Israel is God's chosen people, Christians are grafted into the promise it's not a national promise its individual. Well, I don't know who most Americans are chatting with.

 

[Haich]

Here's a question:

What is an acceptable percentage to you of British Muslims who sympathize with terrorism?

If it's anything more than zero, I'd say we have a problem.

It's all well and good to blame Western powers for arming, inciting and otherwise being responsible for the kind of terror that takes place pretty frequently these days, but when 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK (with similar numbers among Muslims in other countries) are saying they understand, if not outright support, these acts, when do you suppose the right time is for Muslims who DON'T support terror to stand up and do something about it?

Firstly, there's 2.7 million Muslims in the U.K. How is it that 1 in 4 support terrorism/IS? Who conducted these surveys and how many people were asked? It's just a load of crap! You can't monitor and survey 2.7 million people and get an accurate figure

In terms of how many do I think support them? I can't say but I know that they're such a minority maybe even 0 but I can't speak for everyone.

What I do know is these radical men committing these atrocities tend to be very very deluded and extreme individuals who are misinterpreting the Koran and using it to further their political agendas. I do know politics and foreign policy fuel these crazed individuals more than the Koran.

I'm Muslim, I go to protests, I try my best to condemn these loonies by educating people about Islam. What else do you want me to do? What are we supposed to do? Muslims aren't a race, we don't share the same cultures and languages. We are very different from each other, a Somali Muslim is so different from a Saudi Muslim or a Pakistani Muslim. Muslim leaders are constantly condemning and calling these cowards out on media platforms but western media doesn't broadcast it. We try to educate our young people but like every other faith or group, young people sometimes will be radicalised.

My brother was a victim of this, he made friends with what we thought were a normal group of young boys who recently converted to Islam. They brainswashed him into believeing the government were after him and that God was telling him to leave for jihad. Eventually my parents called the police as he was saying crazy things. Long story short, he was seen and assessed by a psychologist and after months of therapy he's fine and is now an engineer.

I think more needs to be done by the intelligence services. These lunatics are on the MI5 radar yet nothing is ever done until it's too late.

 

[Haich]

Everyone's angry.
There are just so many angry people around.
Driving through London is enough to push anyone over the edge.

London traffic is a nightmare

 

[Haich]

Isn't jihad the best way to get into heaven for a muslim otherwise its a little iffy?

Jihad means struggle. Getting out of bed for me when my son is crying for breakfast? That's jihad

The media have coined this term and associated it exclusively with war. God specifically states if you experience jihad whether it's childbirth, illness or death of a loved one you will be rewarded because you demonstrated patience

 

[Lisa]

Jihad means struggle. Getting out of bed for me when my son is crying for breakfast? That's jihad

The media have coined this term and associated it exclusively with war. God specifically states if you experience jihad whether it's childbirth, illness or death of a loved one you will be rewarded because you demonstrated patience

Ya, I don't think so...I've read enough of what your leader did to know that's not it.

 

[AspiringSoul]

No, Israel is God's chosen people, Christians are grafted into the promise it's not a national promise its individual. Well, I don't know who most Americans are chatting with.

do you truely believe the modern state of israel is being supported by God?

 

[Haich]

Ya, I don't think so...I've read enough of what your leader did to know that's not it.

No you don't know what you're talking about, we don't have a 'leader' we aren't a cult. We follow God and believe in his messengers. If you don't have anything credible to say about Islam please keep your rumours to yourself.

Why would a Christian know more about the term 'jihad' than a Muslim ?

 

[Lisa]

do you truely believe the modern state of israel is being supported by God?

Supported how? I believe that He caused them to return to the land He gave them....And that since that's His will that they be there, that they will be there. Is that what you're asking?