The Messiah - NETFLIX

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I didn't get the impression that it was a Catholic telling. I got the impression that it was made by people who don't really believe in Christ or probably God at all, but they actually wanted to make money on the film, so they tried to avoid offending Christians by the end of it.
It was the catholic view of Jesus.
 

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I didn't get the impression that it was a Catholic telling. I got the impression that it was made by people who don't really believe in Christ or probably God at all, but they actually wanted to make money on the film, so they tried to avoid offending Christians by the end of it.
ditto!!! it's entertainment.
 

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I have a love/hate relationship with Netflix in that I love to hate it. People say the right-left dynamic is the same side and in some ways it is. But it is clear to see that Netflix pushes hard to the left side or what we see as the left. People forget that Obama signed a bill where propaganda is legal and the government does insert ideology into entertainment. Netflix is very anti-God, anti-religion and as some have said they are trying to create a new version of religion. I hang around now for the occasional show there but more-so to study the incredibly in your face agenda where all original programming has false points they try to hammer home. Netflix has also recently said they would scale back on entertainment for older viewers in favor of a push to youth. Can you say the CW on steroids?

Anyhow, after they kick Christians to the curb, the Muslim faith will follow as they try to convince you that utopia is a new religion geared towards brainless indoctrinated youth who will soon be plugged into some sort of groupthink one world bliss via virtual reality. In a short time, people will be like lab rats hitting cocaine (endorphins manipulation) until they enter the trap with their free will only to stop thinking about actual reality not even knowing they are imprisoned bots.

As for the Messiah show itself, it is entertaining and they spent some money on it, but there are serious plot holes in how people would actually be responding be it the world's governments or everyday people. It is intended escapism meant to make people question religion in every way while twisting things about to fit the question of everything traditional narrative.
 
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After all, the deception is going to be pretty good if even the very elect would be deceived.
Good news, the elects will NOT be deceived :)

Matthew 24:24 King James Version (KJV)
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

This mean that it's not possible for the A/C to deceive the elects, those that are truly born again.
 

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Well, I know the real character of "Mehdi Dehbi as Al-Masih"

But what's the real story?
As Shah Nimatullah Wali was predicted many years ago, Dajjal/Antichrist will raise to cheat people at this time.
But who is Antichrist? Globalists who control Hollywood, Medias and else...
They're trying to fight with the real character of Al-Masih/Jesus or whatever you call it.
If you don't know him, I can tell you (Nickname: Shuaib bin Saleh)

 

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Anyone else binge watch this? :D
“What better agent of chaos than a new messiah?”

The show can be described in two words: Cultural Terrorism.

Which turns out to be the title of the messiah’s manifesto. I was intrigued by that because I’d never heard of the term before. Like Syriana, I wondered if cultural terrorism is something of great interest in some circles: a paper maybe, that calls for cultural terrorists.

I didn’t find anything (yet) but what I found was a Cultural Terrorist manifesto. The site is unimpressive but surprisingly and bizarrely, a few lines from the author-less manifesto were quoted in the show:

“Confusion as a weapon / Confusion the key word. Healthy confusion, some call it "evil". Confusion that sparks the need to question. Confusion calling fear, Confusion making us question everything in search of some (un)sense”.

While ISIS’ blowing up of ancient historical sites and artefacts is considered cultural terrorism, it seems the emphasis of the show is the cultural terrorism that gets your beliefs metaphorically blown up, whether you physically survive that or not. This was demonstrated when the Texas pastor eventually burns down his church after watching the CNN report in the last episode. And as the CIA agent said, it’s the next stage evolving from political terrorism that we’ve gotten used to.

The other thing that I found of interest was his use of the phrase “Catchers in the Rye” [when the CIA agent meets him for the first time]. He said: “You and me are both catchers in the rye”.

I’ve been intrigued by J.D Salinger’s novel, Catchers in the Rye, since I watched the film Conspiracy Theory. Mel Gibson’s mind-controlled character was obsessed with the novel and he’d always buy (a) copy(ies) whenever he found one/them and there was a scene in the film where we are shown a book shelf full of them. Incidentally, it is the same book that was found on the person(and apparently two other assasins) of the guy who murdered John Lennon. Now, whether this book is actually used in programming of individuals like the Wizard of Oz, I have no idea. I just thought that its prominence in the Mel Gibson film and it turning up at Lennon’s murder scene means there could be more to it.


"One particularly important World Vision official was John Hinckley, Sr., an oil man, reputed CIA officer, and friend of George Bush. You may have heard of his son. Less than four months before Hinckley Jr. became known as Jodie Foster's biggest fan, another member of the World Vision order, Mark Chapman, gunned down John Lennon in what may have been a practice run for the bigger hit on President Reagan. One of the policeman who found him was convinced that he was a mind-controlled assassin. Chapman was clutching a copy of the novel Catcher in the Rye, which was also owned by John Hinckley Jr. (The book was written by J.D. Salinger, who worked in military intelligence with Henry Kissinger during World War II.) Before going to trial, Chapman plead guilty after a voice in his head (which he attributed it to God) commanded him to do so. "
 
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Interesting post, well thought out Karly.

I couldn't help but smile at this though:

The other thing that I found of interest was his use of the phrase “Catchers in the Rye” [when the CIA agent meets him for the first time]. He said: “You and me are both catchers in the rye”.
my favourite was "so what I thought I'd do was, pretend I was one of those deaf mutes" this was also used in the Laughing Man episodes of Ghost in the Shell.

JD Salinger along with Ayn Rand, inspire so much cultish devotion (and equal amounts of hyperbole), their followers/fans have an almost messianic expectation which I find, oddly justified... if only for the conspiratorial and/or suspicious mind.
 

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Interesting post, well thought out Karly.

my favourite was "so what I thought I'd do was, pretend I was one of those deaf mutes" this was also used in the Laughing Man episodes of Ghost in the Shell.

JD Salinger along with Ayn Rand, inspire so much cultish devotion (and equal amounts of hyperbole), their followers/fans have an almost messianic expectation which I find, oddly justified... if only for the conspiratorial and/or suspicious mind.
I forgot to ask; you or any other muslim can respond. There was a scene in a mosque (?) when the Imam and a couple of other men were wondering if the al-masih was legit. One of the guys was like “but he showed up in Damascus wearing a yellow robe like the scriptures say”. So, is that consistent with your sacred literature, that the messiah will arrive dressed in a yellow robe?

I left my previous post kinda hanging, so this is the other half of it…

One of the other reasons I found the employment of the phrase Catchers in the Rye quite intriguing is that, from the little bit that I’ve read over the years there is a veritable occultic thread that runs in/through the intelligence world. Your average, low-level spook probably won’t be into the occult but the higher-ups will be. Iam sure you’ve heard of “psychic spies” or intelligence agencies employing magicians (will leave links behind) and I remember reading something to the effect that the CIA is occultic at its very heart. So him saying that they are both catchers in rye, to me meant that they are both pawns of these agencies albeit in different capacities.

It wouldn’t be surprising to me if US intelligence alongside other agencies, pulled off something like this (the show’s very story line) to sow chaos and to achieve whatever ends. Wouldn’t be surprising if they activated these “sleeper agents of chaos”….the cultural terrorists…..so-called assassins of the future. It is difficult to believe something like this is possible if one is unaware of the history of intelligence agencies hiring charlatans and/or the existence of “paranormal departments”. Ofcourse, in the show there is the magician angle (his uncle taught him tricks).

The climate is becoming rife for something like this. When bin Laden was “killed off” in 2011, it took just a few years for ISIS to show up on the scene in 2014. Now that Baghdadi was “killed off” last year, we are waiting to see who picks up the mantle. The cultural terrorist could simply be set up as a fore-runner, for the real-other worldly entity. Isn’t that why we have shows like Lucifer? I found out the other day that it is still running and is in its 5th season!

Links:
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Emblem of the US Intelligence community.

...the dagger is a famous symbol of intelligence, and precisely the star of the Intelligence Community is composed of them.
In the center of the Intelligence Community’s star is a rose with five petals. But this – the five-petaled rose – is the symbol of the Rosicrucian order. Is that a coincidence? Hardly: after all, even the image of the sharp leaflets between the petals is repeated.

And then there’s the most interesting thing: we’ll read the description of the seal that is found on the official site of the US Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
The eight points of the polar star symbolize the six departments and two independent agencies of the Intelligence Community. They are combined with the 15 stars around the circumference [sic] represent the elements of other agencies that are also part of the Intelligence Community [3].
The problem is that there aren’t 15 stars. There are 16. Count them yourself. So what then is the unnamed sixteenth organization, an element of which is part of the US Intelligence Community?
SOURCE

MI5, Magicians and False Flag OPs

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I did happen to watch Messiah the day the thing premiered, I binged watched it that week. Honestly the show didn't leave much an impression on me. I really liked the first episode but the rest of the show, despite having a few climactic moments, felt very stale and uninteresting as entertainment, and even less interesting for it's message.
I did like how they attempted to keep the main character as ambiguous as possible so that we don't know who he really is in the narrative.

Many of the plot-points and sub-plots though felt like filler and didn't add much to the story (like Eva's pregnancy and affairs etc and the meandering pointless melodrama of the Iguero family).
As far as I'm concerned, the cliffhanger also didn't leave much wanting more from a season two. Even though we probably will get a season two (because of the promotion that made even unwilling people stream it on January 1), I don't think the show will be anything other than a fluke in all honesty. Certainly, aside from the very attention-grabbing pilot episode, it lacked relevance, structure and successful application of themes.
 

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I did happen to watch Messiah the day the thing premiered, I binged watched it that week. Honestly the show didn't leave much an impression on me. I really liked the first episode but the rest of the show, despite having a few climactic moments, felt very stale and uninteresting as entertainment, and even less interesting for it's message.
I did like how they attempted to keep the main character as ambiguous as possible so that we don't know who he really is in the narrative.

Many of the plot-points and sub-plots though felt like filler and didn't add much to the story (like Eva's pregnancy and affairs etc and the meandering pointless melodrama of the Iguero family).
As far as I'm concerned, the cliffhanger also didn't leave much wanting more from a season two. Even though we probably will get a season two (because of the promotion that made even unwilling people stream it on January 1), I don't think the show will be anything other than a fluke in all honesty. Certainly, aside from the very attention-grabbing pilot episode, it lacked relevance, structure and successful application of themes.
Completely agree and i never watch Netflix but this one i did.

I'd been told it was boring and when i got around to watching it, it was boring indeed but picked up on the 3rd episode for me. The main storyline is boring or uninteresting but underneath it, the sub storyline(so to speak) is where the juice is. In a nutshell, its about terrorism that replaces political terrorism.
 

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I forgot to ask; you or any other muslim can respond. There was a scene in a mosque (?) when the Imam and a couple of other men were wondering if the al-masih was legit. One of the guys was like “but he showed up in Damascus wearing a yellow robe like the scriptures say”. So, is that consistent with your sacred literature, that the messiah will arrive dressed in a yellow robe?
The yellow garments are mentioned in various ahadith on the descent of Isa ibn Maryam (Jesus peace be upon him).

Descent of Isa ibn Maryam (Jesus peace be upon him)

Abu Huraira narrated that Prophet Mohammad صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "There is no prophet between me and him (Jesus Christ عليه السلام ). He shall descend so, recognize him when you see him. He is a man of medium height, (his complexion) is between reddish and white; he will be between (or dressed in) two slightly yellowish garments; His head looks as if it is dripping water even though it is not wet. He will fight people in the cause (for the sake) of Islam, will break the Cross (invalidate Christianity) and kill the swine (declare its consumption and exchange or trade as impermissible) and abolish Jizya (tax on Christians and Jews); and Allah will put an end to all religious sects except Islam during his (Jesus') time. He (Jesus) will slay the Antichrist (Dajjal) and he will stay in the World for 40 years. Then, he will die and the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him." (Abu Dawud and Musnad Ahmad)

Prophet Mohammad صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "In the meantime, while the Dajjal will be busy doing this and this, Allah will send down the Messiah son of Mary (Jesus عليه السلام). He (Jesus عليه السلام ) will descend in the eastern part of Damascus, near the white minaret (tower), dressed in the two yellow garments, with his hands resting on the arms of two angels. When he will bend down his head, water drops will appear trickling down, and when he will raise it, it will appear as though pearl--like drops are rolling down. Any disbeliever whom the air of his breath reaches, and it will reach up to the last limit of his sight, will fall dead. Then, the son of Mary will go in pursuit of the Dajjal, and will overtake him at the gate of Lud , and will kill him." (Sahih Muslim, Abu Dawud, Tirmizi, Ibn Majah).
 
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Well, I hope some of you didn't get too interested in that Netflix canceled it yesterday and left a cliff hanger for the ages in doing so, LOL.
 
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