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Lily-Blue

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Hello Everyone, I'm new here. Thank you for all of the good insight you've provided in this thread. I thought I would make a comment also and ask a question.

Lauren_xox, what a profound synopsis you wrote which I agree is the case concerning the BTS boys. I love BTS (too late now) unfortunately, but that doesn't mean I'm not angry that they've led literally millions of unaware fans into a satanic realm. I don't believe this was the boys' idea but they went along with it, perhaps because they were dependent on their company/label in so many ways including financially for the reasons you described. I think some force, for lack of a better word, behind their company is responsible for the sick planning of their careers. Now they're young men but they've spent very formative years under intense control and influence. If I'm not mistaken, they still live together and are extremely close to each other, and they've renewed their contract with their company for years. Definitely a match made in hell. I believe people need to be woken up to what BTS is doing, especially to people who are religious and young enough to be susceptible to their particular brand of pied pipery (not just to these pied pipers but to kpop in general, and even more generally, to the music industry as a whole). That's just my two cents.

I noticed that many commenters here don't type the names of the group as usual but use different characters or abbreviations and I'm wondering why, and if I should do the same.
 

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Hello Everyone, I'm new here. Thank you for all of the good insight you've provided in this thread. I thought I would make a comment also and ask a question.

Lauren_xox, what a profound synopsis you wrote which I agree is the case concerning the BTS boys. I love BTS (too late now) unfortunately, but that doesn't mean I'm not angry that they've led literally millions of unaware fans into a satanic realm. I don't believe this was the boys' idea but they went along with it, perhaps because they were dependent on their company/label in so many ways including financially for the reasons you described. I think some force, for lack of a better word, behind their company is responsible for the sick planning of their careers. Now they're young men but they've spent very formative years under intense control and influence. If I'm not mistaken, they still live together and are extremely close to each other, and they've renewed their contract with their company for years. Definitely a match made in hell. I believe people need to be woken up to what BTS is doing, especially to people who are religious and young enough to be susceptible to their particular brand of pied pipery (not just to these pied pipers but to kpop in general, and even more generally, to the music industry as a whole). That's just my two cents.

I noticed that many commenters here don't type the names of the group as usual but use different characters or abbreviations and I'm wondering why, and if I should do the same.
I agree , but I dont think they still live together tho .
 

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hey guys..its been awhile since i posted, but was watching this performance and what i found odd was the camera was focusing on JM's wrist which he be happen to be wearing that red "kabbalah bracelet" thingy which was talked about a long time ago here, not so sure exactly the significance but it was just so weird why focus a shot of that bracelet in the first place. I guess it does mean something?
To my knowledge,the Kabbalah bracelet isn't evil on it's own. It comes from my country and it has been a custom of us to wear it the whole of March since the ancient times. It's considered a pagan practice but it's original purpose was to protect people from the sun and guard them from the evil eye. That being said, people in Hollywood who practice Crowley's religion wear this bracelet to control the powerful demon who possesses them (by their will) so they don't consume them entirely. It is also said that celebrities wear it to denote that they have partaken in sacrifices recently (the red string signifies blood and the white one purity). Notice that they always take it off after a while.


Because they've been groomed to want money and security. What's the easiest way to make someone paranoid about financial security and think that money is the source of their freedom? Just try taking it all away from them at a young age when they are still developing. Interestingly, "growing up poor" is an official ACE, so poverty is proven to be a form of childhood trauma and it displays itself in the form of financial anxiety in adulthood. (remember this)

To help understand how that works, I'll talk about myself a bit. I grew up as upper-middle class in early childhood, then when my parents split and it was just my mom and me, I became poor as hell during high school. Even with the abuse I endured from my mom, my personal view of freedom was not mental freedom or to try and undo the effects of trauma that still influenced my behavior.. no, it became financial freedom - because I had it ripped away from me when I was younger. So I was driven to make money. In retrospect, the truth is that it doesn't matter how much money I acquire, I'll still be trapped by the self-destructive behaviors in my mind created by trauma from my mom. I didn't realise that true freedom was THERAPY because then I'd have the mental resilience to survive within any income bracket. I seriously used to have thoughts like "if I don't make a middle class & upwards salary I'll just kms because I won't be able to cope without the security/safety net of extra money" and I still occasionally struggle with thoughts like that.

So like I said in the last post, I believe the whole 'not giving them their fair share of income' was strategic trauma during trainee and early debut days - similar to my financial insecurity during teen years. Idk how to explain it but it's like diverting your attention away from the real issue so that you think lack of money is the root cause of all your problems because money = (false) sense of Independence and security. So that they don't look for true independence and security in the form of leaving the company and getting therapy. Also giving them a reward of a fair cheque after years of mistreatment is like normalizing it and providing validation that what they went through was a "necessary evil". The way they talk about being "ready" to face pain in the 'ON' lyrics just sounds like normalization of trauma. Hope this wasn't too long I really wanted to explain it properly.
You explained it brilliantly!! These people have been groomed to think that the suffering and pain they have endured made it all worth it. This has them more entitled and arrogant because they genuinely believe they deserve more than anyone else because they are "brave" enough to do whatever it needs to be done to be on top. They know that most people (even B-list celebrities) don't have the guts for this life (exploitation, prostitution, satanic sacrifices etc) and consider them weak, it's really a twisted mentality.
 
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Hello Everyone, I'm new here. Thank you for all of the good insight you've provided in this thread. I thought I would make a comment also and ask a question.

Lauren_xox, what a profound synopsis you wrote which I agree is the case concerning the BTS boys. I love BTS (too late now) unfortunately, but that doesn't mean I'm not angry that they've led literally millions of unaware fans into a satanic realm. I don't believe this was the boys' idea but they went along with it, perhaps because they were dependent on their company/label in so many ways including financially for the reasons you described. I think some force, for lack of a better word, behind their company is responsible for the sick planning of their careers. Now they're young men but they've spent very formative years under intense control and influence. If I'm not mistaken, they still live together and are extremely close to each other, and they've renewed their contract with their company for years. Definitely a match made in hell. I believe people need to be woken up to what BTS is doing, especially to people who are religious and young enough to be susceptible to their particular brand of pied pipery (not just to these pied pipers but to kpop in general, and even more generally, to the music industry as a whole). That's just my two cents.

I noticed that many commenters here don't type the names of the group as usual but use different characters or abbreviations and I'm wondering why, and if I should do the same.
Hi! Welcome to the forum :) I think the reason people switch out characters from nouns is so that the thread doesn't show up too easily when "BTS" is searched on Google. We might just be being paranoid to be honest, but from past incidents it's safe to assume that K-pop companies don't usually take too kindly to what they consider "defamation".
 

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Because they've been groomed to want money and security. What's the easiest way to make someone paranoid about financial security and think that money is the source of their freedom? Just try taking it all away from them at a young age when they are still developing. Interestingly, "growing up poor" is an official ACE, so poverty is proven to be a form of childhood trauma and it displays itself in the form of financial anxiety in adulthood. (remember this)

To help understand how that works, I'll talk about myself a bit. I grew up as upper-middle class in early childhood, then when my parents split and it was just my mom and me, I became poor as hell during high school. Even with the abuse I endured from my mom, my personal view of freedom was not mental freedom or to try and undo the effects of trauma that still influenced my behavior.. no, it became financial freedom - because I had it ripped away from me when I was younger. So I was driven to make money. In retrospect, the truth is that it doesn't matter how much money I acquire, I'll still be trapped by the self-destructive behaviors in my mind created by trauma from my mom. I didn't realise that true freedom was THERAPY because then I'd have the mental resilience to survive within any income bracket. I seriously used to have thoughts like "if I don't make a middle class & upwards salary I'll just kms because I won't be able to cope without the security/safety net of extra money" and I still occasionally struggle with thoughts like that.

So like I said in the last post, I believe the whole 'not giving them their fair share of income' was strategic trauma during trainee and early debut days - similar to my financial insecurity during teen years. Idk how to explain it but it's like diverting your attention away from the real issue so that you think lack of money is the root cause of all your problems because money = (false) sense of Independence and security. So that they don't look for true independence and security in the form of leaving the company and getting therapy. Also giving them a reward of a fair cheque after years of mistreatment is like normalizing it and providing validation that what they went through was a "necessary evil". The way they talk about being "ready" to face pain in the 'ON' lyrics just sounds like normalization of trauma. Hope this wasn't too long I really wanted to explain it properly.
This is very interesting, thank you for sharing. I hope you're feeling better now, it sounds like you've been through a lot.

Hunger for money is kind of a mysterious beast to me, I grew up poor, but I never cared about money and I dont see the appeal of it. So it is very enlightening to me reading what you've said. Thank you again for sharing your experience.

I was thinking about fame, and then I had a thought. Money and fame are a form of status (which is obvious, now that I think about it), if you listen to what the rap-line, especially Yoongi boasts about - it's "rolex on my wrist", topping on charts, sorry for taking your income, you can just be at the bottom I dont care, my seat is business yours is economy, and so on, it's all about status. And maybe it's just his personal vice. He cant give it away, because in a way it's like cocaine to him, he can't function without it.

The first time you try out cocaine, why it becomes addictive, is cocaine addicts say: "you for the first time realize what it's like to not be in pain, its like the agony that is with you all the time, and you're so used to it that you dont realize how strong the pain is until you dont feel it for a brief moment".

And thanks for pointing out that the rewards is like normalizing the mistreatment. I also thought about that, but I forgot to say it.
 
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Does anyone know whether the significance of the winged lion and X.X.V. from this picture was revealed?
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Arm1 on twitter thought that it just meant that Beetees want Arm1 to stream this Mv:
But that doesn't explain the winged lion (or the X.X.V.). I'm really curious about it. I thought the new album would make it clear, but it doesn't seem so.
 
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Does anyone know whether the significance of the winged lion and X.X.V. from this picture was revealed?View attachment 33415
Arm1 on twitter thought that it just meant that Beetees want Arm1 to stream this Mv:
But that doesn't explain the winged lion (or the X.X.V.). I'm really curious about it. I thought the new album would make it clear, but it doesn't seem so.
For the winged lion, I started a subject, for the number, I will continue the research:
 

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Vee is seen looking at us from above. Fans are joking, saying he can step on them etc but that's exactly what they tried to portray. From this angle, he seems like a god looking down on everyone. Also, this lamp gives the impression that there is a halo/the Sun over his head, as far as I'm concerned. He really believes he is some sort of god. And it isn't the first time he is being depicted as the Sun God either.



In the background we can see the gateway to heaven again.
he ain't shit. imagine being deluded you're a god when all you've done your whole life to get to the "top" for satan's crumbs was bend over for the filthy elite who also lick satan's asshole to gorge all the leftovers. if that's elite then i must be way more elite than them since i don't eat feces nor praise the phallus. where's my top notch royal robe. he thinks he's so good looking and superior when he just looks creepy. if i had an invisible robe i'd wear it just to bitchslap him and then put my arm back in to smoothly evade the armys.
 

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Hi! Welcome to the forum :) I think the reason people switch out characters from nouns is so that the thread doesn't show up too easily when "BTS" is searched on Google. We might just be being paranoid to be honest, but from past incidents it's safe to assume that K-pop companies don't usually take too kindly to what they consider "defamation".
Thank you! That's good to know.
 

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What is your opinion about the coronavirus outbreak in SK?
SK is the most affected country after China and a lot of kpop events are being canceled. BT$ had to cancel their concerts too

BTS Have Canceled Their South Korea Tour Dates Over The Coronavirus Outbreak

"While we hope that the situation will improve, we must take into consideration the health and safety of hundreds of thousands of guests as well as our artists and the dire impact a last-minute cancellation may have on guests from overseas, production companies, and staff," Big Hit Entertainment said in a statement.

BH mediaplays a lot about BT$ helping korean economy and tourism. But now with the coronavirus outbreak that's going to stop,and I think canceling a show like this is a big deal

what do you think is gonna happen?after the movie Parasite won best picture at the Oscars I believed korean entertainment was going to be pushed big time in the West. But now it seems unlikely
Is it just me or is kpop seemingly overhyped. bts 'on' was labeled #45 on most trending in south Africa yet almost everyone here don't even watch kpop or Asian media in general.
 

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Interesting.. any Muslims here who can further explain this theory? This end of life thing seems alarming when it comes to Kookie. He was also the dove and went into the heavens in the mv.


This number is starting to creep me out. They place a high value on it as it seems and everything is pre-planned as always. Someone commented that they are illuminati in a joking way below, if only they knew.


Is he looking to see if anyone gets it right about their affiliation with the freemasonry?
Also, he really wanted them to find out what his tattoo means, is this a way to warn fans or to make fun of their own ignorance?

Also, that explains why they put Noah references. Everything is about this "new beginning".

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This story is also in Christianity. God told Noah to build an ark for the coming flood and many did not listen since they thought he was crazy. And when the day came of the great flood. The doors of the ark were shut and all those who didn't listen were locked out and drowned.

God did this to purify the world.

When it comes to jungkook doing this.... I dunno since he isn't in the ark maybe he'll die with all the unbelievers, or..... Yeah I was gonna say he may be a good person in this whole bts thingy but naah
 

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Is it just me or is kpop seemingly overhyped. bts 'on' was labeled #45 on most trending in south Africa yet almost everyone here don't even watch kpop or Asian media in general.
They are overhyped have been overhyped. Its like a technique before they had a lott of fans they have been called ‘big’ ‘sensation’ ‘just like beatles’ . So the new joining fans just believe that , and it creates curiosity witch creates more fans .
 

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Lol tae either speaks a few words or just continues speaking despite the time limit going off like nothing happened. The staff must be like "gosh Taehyung you dont make anything fun is it really that hard?? :rolleyes:"
5:44 - Question: "Show us your charm for 7 seconds"
Everyone: :):D;):cool::cool::p
Tae:
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Literally what is wrong with him, its so weird how serious and emotionless he acts, but then can talk about armys normally or laugh/smile in another video, which i would also find it a bit weird since we are so used to him being so careless and serious.

I wonder what he is talking about..is it that he was surprised that fan knew what he was feeling?? Or was he scared that someone saw his behavior and wanted to hide it from the fans?
 

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the vlive bts happy birthday is so weird , basically in the begining nj said something about 7x3= 21 . And they keep looking at the side where the staff is probably sitting ( on the side note I feel like these lives are all part of the schedule and not something they just do for fun or ‘suprise’ like they say) .

But the weirdest part was at this video on 32:50 where nj looks at the side stands up and makes a 7 with his whole body three times. What does that mean . After that it looked like they were a bit uncomfortable . I just was weird like 7x3 and then 3 times that 7 body movement.
 

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the vlive bts happy birthday is so weird , basically in the begining nj said something about 7x3= 21 . And they keep looking at the side where the staff is probably sitting ( on the side note I feel like these lives are all part of the schedule and not something they just do for fun or ‘suprise’ like they say) .

But the weirdest part was at this video on 32:50 where nj looks at the side stands up and makes a 7 with his whole body three times. What does that mean . After that it looked like they were a bit uncomfortable . I just was weird like 7x3 and then 3 times that 7 body movement.
that was so weird and awkward. the others looked confused too
and the video last one hour !!! :oops: you are correct, vlives are part of the schedule, they have to sit for an hour and pretend they do it for fun

and I found this video from Grammy.s, look at RM hands! while the others pose normally he just has to do the horns and one eye

 

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I disagree. The one who get most screen time is Jimin. Jimin like always the center of everything. Like in every Interview who are the one you mostly see in the front? Jamen and Ratmonster. Jamen are the one is gets all the recognition. And the Black Swan MV all I could see on my screen was Jimin, the whole video might as well been of him. In this forum people seem to talk less about Jimin, mostly they talk about Vee being the most evil and the leader and center of everything when is really Jimin. I don't like Jimin , he seems too proud of himself. He seems to be very egocentric just my opinion To me I believe off cameras Jimin is the one that is the most evil, and rudest one. I think he is the one who wants everything his way.

sorry if my English is bad I am from Czech republic
yes you are correct, BH likes JM a lot too. I saw BTS has a new song with only JM and JK included

Lauv & BTS' Jimin & Jungkook's "Who" Lyrics Tell A Haunting Love Story


And the line distribution from their ON song:

 
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