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Any idea on the relevance of these....

Jeremiah 33.3 John 3.3 Ezekiel 33

They are in the drop down description of the above video.
I'm not clear on the numerology in terms of 33 in light of the video, but the main pattern in the scriptures is the idea of the last days before Christ's return. Ezekiel 33 is pretty explicit. For example, in verse 6, the "watchman" needs to warn people. The video maker is trying to warn us because he's here to do so.

Jeremiah 33:3 "Call unto me and I will answer thee"
John 3:3 3 "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
Ezekiel 33
Ezekiel 33 King James Version (KJV)

33 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:

3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;

4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.

6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

10 Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live?

11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.

13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.

14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;

15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.

17 Yet the children of thy people say, The way of the Lord is not equal: but as for them, their way is not equal.

18 When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.

19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.

20 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O ye house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways.

21 And it came to pass in the twelfth year of our captivity, in the tenth month, in the fifth day of the month, that one that had escaped out of Jerusalem came unto me, saying, The city is smitten.

22 Now the hand of the Lord was upon me in the evening, afore he that was escaped came; and had opened my mouth, until he came to me in the morning; and my mouth was opened, and I was no more dumb.

23 Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

24 Son of man, they that inhabit those wastes of the land of Israel speak, saying, Abraham was one, and he inherited the land: but we are many; the land is given us for inheritance.

25 Wherefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Ye eat with the blood, and lift up your eyes toward your idols, and shed blood: and shall ye possess the land?

26 Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land?

27 Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence.

28 For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through.

29 Then shall they know that I am the Lord, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.

30 Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the Lord.

31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

33 And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.
 

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I'm not clear on the numerology in terms of 33 in light of the video, but the main pattern in the scriptures is the idea of the last days before Christ's return. Ezekiel 33 is pretty explicit. For example, in verse 6, the "watchman" needs to warn people. The video maker is trying to warn us because he's here to do so.

Jeremiah 33:3 "Call unto me and I will answer thee"
John 3:3 3 "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
Ezekiel 33
Ezekiel 33 King James Version (KJV)

33 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:

3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;

4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.

6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

10 Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live?

11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.

13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.

14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;

15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.

17 Yet the children of thy people say, The way of the Lord is not equal: but as for them, their way is not equal.

18 When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.

19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.

20 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O ye house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways.

21 And it came to pass in the twelfth year of our captivity, in the tenth month, in the fifth day of the month, that one that had escaped out of Jerusalem came unto me, saying, The city is smitten.

22 Now the hand of the Lord was upon me in the evening, afore he that was escaped came; and had opened my mouth, until he came to me in the morning; and my mouth was opened, and I was no more dumb.

23 Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

24 Son of man, they that inhabit those wastes of the land of Israel speak, saying, Abraham was one, and he inherited the land: but we are many; the land is given us for inheritance.

25 Wherefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Ye eat with the blood, and lift up your eyes toward your idols, and shed blood: and shall ye possess the land?

26 Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land?

27 Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence.

28 For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through.

29 Then shall they know that I am the Lord, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.

30 Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the Lord.

31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

33 And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.
Thank you. Of all the religious people who frequent this forum you are the only one who offered a response. Some people here can only talk Bible....I asked just one question on the Bible, it all goes quiet.
 

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what does that have to do with being gay?

the rate of sexual abuse in every church is unusually high lisa. its also high among certain populations. one doesnt negate the other.

you know where its not so high? among gay people.
 
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what does that have to do with being gay?

the rate of sexual abuse in every church is unusually high lisa. its also high among certain populations. one doesnt negate the other.

you know where its not so high? among gay people.
You need easy access to a child/ children to be a p***phile.
Some disgusting people use their church position to do that.
Until recently:
homosexuals were unable to access children unless they were working in schools etc.
homosexuals were not allowed volunteer in children's groups e.g. Scouts.
Homosexuals unable to adopt kids or have IVF treatment.

It does happen. A particularly horrible story. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-10/peter-truong-jailed-over-global-paedophile-ring/5146366
 
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You need easy access to a child/ children to be a p***phile.
Some disgusting people use their church position to do that.
Until recently:
homosexuals were unable to access children unless they were working in schools etc.
homosexuals were not allowed volunteer in children's groups e.g. Scouts.
Homosexuals unable to adopt kids or have IVF treatment.

It does happen. A particularly horrible story. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-10/peter-truong-jailed-over-global-paedophile-ring/5146366
And none of that negates that the rate of sexual abuse among homosexuals is extremely low. On the other hand the rate of homosexuals who were abused is very high.

Most childhood sexual abuse is committed by family members or parents paramours. A lot is committed by people in positions of power with access to kids - hence the church. Homosexuals always worked in those arenas (schools, camps, etc) they just didn’t come out of the closet.
 

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Main problems with the LGBTQ community
-People claiming they don't have genders
-Making it seem like men can get pregnant
-Making up genders
-Now telling you that you can be whatever gender you decide to be
-They are a demon infested community
-Fornication
-Lust and adultery

We surely are living in the times of Sodom and Gomorrah... but worse of course. We are in the times of confusion as God says especially since people are getting confused over their gender which doesn't make sense, but it's unfortunately happening
 

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And none of that negates that the rate of sexual abuse among homosexuals is extremely low. On the other hand the rate of homosexuals who were abused is very high.

Most childhood sexual abuse is committed by family members or parents paramours. A lot is committed by people in positions of power with access to kids - hence the church. Homosexuals always worked in those arenas (schools, camps, etc) they just didn’t come out of the closet.
Quite a few of those priests, teachers etc. are gay.
Now gay people are allowed to have children (whether via IVF or adoption), time will tell whether children are at higher risk of abuse in those households or not.

One disgusting story from a few years back. Two gay men adopted a male child and used him on an online p**dophile network. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-10/boy-with-henna-tattoo-network-exposed/5310812
 

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Its sin people, the bible says when people turn away from GOD he gives them over to their depraved mind. We are in the end times, Jesus said as in the day of Noah, and in the days of Lot both times we marked with extreme excessive sin When humanity turns away from God the vacuum in their soul is filled with sin.The world is coming full circle again.People just need to admit they need HIM. He already paid the price for our rebellion. He is going to fix this, He is the only one who can, He is the One who created us in the first place. Salvation is a free gift Repent Trust in Jesus. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
 
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Its sin people, the bible says when people turn away from GOD he gives them over to their depraved mind. We are in the end times, Jesus said as in the day of Noah, and in the days of Lot both times we marked with extreme excessive sin When humanity turns away from God the vacuum in their soul is filled with sin.The world is coming full circle again.People just need to admit they need HIM. He already paid the price for our rebellion. He is going to fix this, He is the only one who can, He is the One who created us in the first place. Salvation is a free gift Repent Trust in Jesus. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
How can you explain people who have never known Christianity, say pre christian times or today where tribes dont interact with modern people so dont know who jesus is.
are they condemned because of simple time or geography.
what about gay people pre Christianity or pre jewish religions.
why create human bodies with the ability to enjoy sex, why create an entire organ thats entire purpose is to bring pleasure, im talking about the clitoris, also why make it a taboo or sinful to use it? surely if he designed us the way we are why make us in a way that enjoys certain things.
if he makes no mistakes, as the bible says, why create humans with sin built in, or create us with organs we dont use, than can become infected and kill us?
why make human bodies, especially women bodies in a way that can kill them, birth with out medical help can kill, hips not wide enough, infection, blood pressure, babies becoming trapped ect.
Why put the food pipe with the breathing pipe thats just bad design, as president bush knows you can nearly die and some do from choking.
god is a terrible designer.
why create cancers and disease?

why create a tree of knowledge, put it in a location that can be accessed, espeically by a being that has no idea what wrong or right is because they dont have that knowledge, then punish them for doing something they did not know was wrong, eve was essentially entrapped.

how is jesus his own son, if jesus is god, yet jesus is the son of god, does that mean he impregnated mary with himself? what of this e tribes i spoke of before are they condemned because they dont know who he is?

apparently god has a plan for you, theres a reason things happen, he has a book and already has everything planned, everything that happens is pre ordained, yet? he gives you free will, then blames you for using the same free will or for doing what he planned, then sends you to hell for what you did even though he planned it.

what about people pre judeo-christian times, are they condemned because they were born pre judeo-christian time, because we have proof of people 7000 years before the bible is set.

what about the inconsistencies in the bible, in one section we hear no ones seen gods face then some one has, on others you are told if you call his name you will be saved others your not guaranteed, there are thousands of examples.
 

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People who never heard about monotheistic faith will surely not be judged as those who did right? If they never received the message, thats not their doing...... they are forgiven correct?
 

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Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 847)

Compare to Protestant exclusivism here:

 
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People who never heard about monotheistic faith will surely not be judged as those who did right? If they never received the message, thats not their doing...... they are forgiven correct?
Then surely your doing a disservice by telling people about Jesus or god because then they can use the loop hole
 
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