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[Cintra]

@Lisa
@Thundarian

Does that go for all the laws in the old testament? Especially the ones in Leviticus, Duteronomy etc.

ETA
In real terms, I am asking wether or not my parents were hypocrites when they told me tattoos were forbidden by god's law, but they were okay eating bacon.
I could never get a straight answer.

 

[Thunderian]

You and her are feigning ignorance about your own faiths laws. Cintra just provided scriptural basis for this as well.

Why would we lie about our own faith? What purpose would it serve?

 

[Lurker]

A&E?

I think it's across the pond language for accident and emergency.

 

[Lisa]

No.
You have disregarded the teachings, law and example of Jesus Christ in order to excuse what you desire from the modern, secular world while condemning the legitimate suffering of others, condemning religious practitioners of other faiths, and in general showcasing exactly whats wrong with the modern American Christians whom use the faith as a horizontal bludgeon instead of a vertical connection to God almighty.

No I haven’t..saved by grace not the law.

 

[justjess]

No I haven’t..saved by grace not the law.

How convenient...

 

[Lurker]

How convenient...

I was thinking that a few posts ago.

 

[Thunderian]

@Lisa
@Thundarian

Does that go for all the laws in the old testament? Especially the ones in Leviticus, Duteronomy etc.

The law was given to Israel, not to Christians. We are free from their laws. Please don't listen to anything Tempest says. He's very ignorant.

Rom 10:4​

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.​

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Gal 3:23​

But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.​

Gal 3:24​

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.​

Gal 3:25​

But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.​

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Eph 2:15​

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;​

That doesn't mean we are allowed to murder and steal. We are under the Law of Christ.

Mat 22:36​

Master, which is the great commandment in the law?​

Mat 22:37​

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.​

Mat 22:38​

This is the first and great commandment.​

Mat 22:39​

And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.​

Mat 22:40​

On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.​

Murder and stealing, etc., are covered under the law of Christ. I hope that clears things up for you.

 

[Lisa]

@Lisa
@Thundarian

Does that go for all the laws in the old testament? Especially the ones in Leviticus, Duteronomy etc.

ETA
In real terms, I am asking wether or not my parents were hypocrites when they told me tattoos were forbidden by god's law, but they were okay eating bacon.
I could never get a straight answer.

Jesus fulfilled the law so when we believe in Him we are also accorded t we fulfilled the law. We can’t do it on our own, but Jesus has done it for us.

I wouldn’t tattoo myself, I think it’s defacing yourself.

How convenient...

It was really awesome that Jesus died for my sins!

 

[Cintra]

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Jesus fulfilled the law so when we believe in Him we are also accorded t we fulfilled the law. We can’t do it on our own, but Jesus has done it for us.

I wouldn’t tattoo myself, I think it’s defacing yourself.

It was really awesome that Jesus died for my sins!

Thank you to you both.

Yes, The words from Matthew are familiar. I believe my parents may have used that.
However, it never stopped them from dredging up old laws from Duteronomy when ever they wanted to make a point.

I could never get a clear answer on wether all those old laws were meant to be cancelled, or just some.

 

[justjess]

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Thank you to you both.

Yes, The words from Matthew are familiar. I believe my parents may have used that.
However, it never stopped them from dredging up old laws from Duteronomy when ever they wanted to make a point.

I could never get a clear answer on wether all those old laws were meant to be cancelled, or just some.

You still haven’t.

 

[Lisa]

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Thank you to you both.

Yes, The words from Matthew are familiar. I believe my parents may have used that.
However, it never stopped them from dredging up old laws from Duteronomy when ever they wanted to make a point.

I could never get a clear answer on wether all those old laws were meant to be cancelled, or just some.

If you aren’t saved, you are still under the law.

 

[Thunderian]

You still haven’t.

What is unclear?

 

[justjess]

Whether it is ALL the OT laws or just some. If it’s some how is that line drawn?

I’ve seen it said we are free from the law in one place and then citing back to the law to say why something is wrong or sinful elsewhere (not you specifically just a general observation). And I am assuming this is what cintra was referring to

 

[Thunderian]

Whether it is ALL the OT laws or just some. If it’s some how is that line drawn?

I’ve seen it said we are free from the law in one place and then citing back to the law to say why something is wrong or sinful elsewhere (not you specifically just a general observation). And I am assuming this is what cintra was referring to

Did you see my post about this? I thought it was pretty clear. Christians are not under any Old Testament laws. We are under the Law of Christ, which tells us to love God with everything we have at our disposal, and to love our neighbours as we love ourselves. Anyone who tries to apply any Old Testament laws to Christians doesn't know the Bible.

 

[Thunderian]

Watch, though, because Tempest is going to continue asking Christians if they eat pork.

 

[justjess]

Did you see my post about this? I thought it was pretty clear. Christians are not under any Old Testament laws. We are under the Law of Christ, which tells us to love God with everything we have at our disposal, and to love our neighbours as we love ourselves. Anyone who tries to apply any Old Testament laws to Christians doesn't know the Bible.

Yeah I saw your post. And I haven’t noticed this being a habit of yours. Which is why I specifically stated - not you. Other people..

For what it’s worth, my heretic take on the Bible is that the only portion of it that even matters is that verse you quoted. “Love god. Love your neighbor. That’s the whole of the law” (summarized by jess)

 

[Cintra]

Did you see my post about this? I thought it was pretty clear. Christians are not under any Old Testament laws. We are under the Law of Christ, which tells us to love God with everything we have at our disposal, and to love our neighbours as we love ourselves. Anyone who tries to apply any Old Testament laws to Christians doesn't know the Bible.

Thank you. That is the clear answer I was looking for.

Obviously I don't expect you to be able to tell me what my parents thought, but it gives me a sort of ball park answer, if you see what I mean.

Back then things were too tense with me and them. Now it is too late. One is gone and the other is confused.
More clarity on things is always useful.

Thank you for your clear answer.

 

[Cintra]

Whether it is ALL the OT laws or just some. If it’s some how is that line drawn?

I’ve seen it said we are free from the law in one place and then citing back to the law to say why something is wrong or sinful elsewhere (not you specifically just a general observation). And I am assuming this is what cintra was referring to

Thank you Justjess. That is what I meant.
You put it very clearly.

 

[Thunderian]

Yeah I saw your post. And I haven’t noticed this being a habit of yours. Which is why I specifically stated - not you. Other people..

I appreciate that, but what other people mistakenly say about the Bible should not be held against the Bible itself. The best thing to do is read the Book and see what IT says. That's why I quoted the scripture that I did.

For what it’s worth, my heretic take on the Bible is that the only portion of it that even matters is that verse you quoted. “Love god. Love your neighbor. That’s the whole of the law” (summarized by jess)

That's not heretical. Those are the literal words of Jesus Christ. If, as a believer, the only thing you ever do is love God and treat your fellow human beings with love, it doesn't matter if you know anything else about the Bible. God certainly doesn't ask for anything else.

 

[Thunderian]

Thank you. That is the clear answer I was looking for.

Obviously I don't expect you to be able to tell me what my parents thought, but it gives me a sort of ball park answer, if you see what I mean.

Back then things were too tense with me and them. Now it is too late. One is gone and the other is confused.
More clarity on things is always useful.

Thank you for your clear answer.

I'm sorry about your parents. I didn't have a good relationship with mine when I was younger, and a lot of it had to do with their use of the Bible. Unfortunately, Christians can misuse and even abuse the Bible as a means of controlling others. If someone is using scripture to force you to do something, even if it's just to make you feel bad, odds are they're abusing it. The key to fighting this is to know the Bible yourself. No one can use it against you falsely if you know it better than they do!