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Here's some trans/gay people, just minding there own business. Not hurting anyone, least of all children;

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But they aren't hurting children, they are reading books and interacting. They aren't trans either they are drag queens totally different kettle of fish and in the UK we have a tradition of pantos, where a man dresses up as a woman, usually the evil step mother and he/she interacts with the audience, and there are no issues. You seriously have issues with trans people and gay people, are you not sure you may have this obsession and hatred for a reason? Sort of a doth protest to much kind of thing.
 
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I’ll put that down to my Western liberal university education.

If you don’t have “ass on the brain” after going through school/university in the West, then you haven’t been going to class ;-)

I learned, at school, that everyone is gay including Jesus. I also learned at school that questioning the Gay Agenda is almost as evil as questioning the Zionist Agenda.
What kind of school did you go to, I went to a pretty liberal one and I've been to university twice at two separate universities and never have we had such an obsession with butts as you, in fact on one mentions gay sex or trans people. It's just a fact of life.
 

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What kind of school did you go to, I went to a pretty liberal one and I've been to university twice at two separate universities and never have we had such an obsession with butts as you, in fact on one mentions gay sex or trans people. It's just a fact of life.
I appreciate your tolerant position. I just hope you’ll reconsider it when the push to legalise paedophiles comes into the popular discourse.

I would have thought that trannie kids would have been enough to ruffle your feathers, but apparently the Social Engineers haven’t nearly gone far enough in your view.
 
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You support the dissolution of gender and identity and the transitioning of children. Good for you. You'll get your wish, as we have pretty much entered a "genderless" world now.

I won't try and change your mind. I'll let your weird, Jewish views on the nature of our reality speak for themselves.

Your views on reality are exactly the same as Google, Bill Gates, Woke Corporatism the entire mainstream media. You're a truly independent thinker. All of your independent thoughts, you came up with them all on your own. It's just a coincidence that you share the same views as the authors of your fake reality.
Gender is completely a social construct, what is normal now was weird 30 years ago but what was normal 30 years ago would of been scandalous 100 years ago.

You do realise until the 20th century boys would wear dresses until they were teens, it was completely normal, for boys to be dressed the same as girls, boys also wore pink not blue.
In 17th century Europe it was normal to wear heels, makeup and wigs, for men.
Heels were worn by archers on horseback so their feet didn't slip or butchers so they did not get blood on their clothes.
Fashions change.
By modern standards men's clothes were incredibly feminine, it was not until the French Revolution men's clothes became darker and plainer, due to people associating pastil colours, makeup and wigs with the aristocracy, men still wore stocking though and slippers.
Being trans or gay is nothing new it's just not illegal now, as it was back then but they existed.

Your obsession with gay people, trans and Jews is very concerning, I think you are projecting your insecurities onto others, it's quite tragic.
 
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I appreciate your tolerant position. I just hope you’ll reconsider it when the push to legalise paedophiles comes into the popular discourse.

I would have thought that trannie kids would have been enough to ruffle your feathers, but apparently the Social Engineers haven’t nearly gone far enough in your view.
There is no push for p***philia, and being gay or trans does not mean you are a pedo, as I've said before their are hundreds of straight men and women who are pedos, sexual preference does not mean you will find children sexually attractive.

Trans kids are not my concern, it's between them and their parents, I do have reservations about forcing transgenderism on people, bit we are in the early days of trans accepting, so yes their will be hurdles.
 

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The rate of HIV transmission via anal sex is much, much higher than heterosexual intercourse. True or False?

AIDS was passed to the straight community when “gays” like Freddy Mercury would have anal sex with their female groupies.

Why do you think “sodomites” was a thing in the Bible? Because sodomy is Devilish Sin. The Wages of Sin are Death. These wages appear in the form of AIDS and a multitude of other health issues that manifest in the Gay community.
I enjoy Freddy Mercs musical talents as much as the rest of us, but you got a point about how this stuff spread.
 

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There is no push for p***philia, and being gay or trans does not mean you are a pedo, as I've said before their are hundreds of straight men and women who are pedos, sexual preference does not mean you will find children sexually attractive.

Trans kids are not my concern, it's between them and their parents, I do have reservations about forcing transgenderism on people, bit we are in the early days of trans accepting, so yes their will be hurdles.
"There is no push for p***philia"
After spending all this time on sites like VC, how can you attempt to advance such an untrue contention?
 

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Sometimes I think so many of you believe there’s a push for p***philia because you were blissfully unaware all this time of how many pedophiles there actually are.
 

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Sometimes I think so many of you believe there’s a push for p***philia because you were blissfully unaware all this time of how many pedophiles there actually are.
Im aware of the push for ped-acceptance because it exists and has for some time. It is being pushed aggressively and overtly in the public sphere, so now the masses are beginning to wake up to the agenda as well. You are correct in noting the epidemic of child predators, but dont you think this whole cycle of sin and shame is being accelerated by TPTB's push for ped-agenda acceptance?
 

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I think it’s more just coming out of the closet (for lack of a better comparison). It’s always been there, they’ve always been there. Most people just weren’t aware or weren’t aware the extent of the issue. Due to my profession I wasn’t among them.

I don’t see a push for pedo acceptance. I haven’t seen pedos portrayed in a positive light outside of some random fringe groups that have been around to some extent for a long time and the vast majority of people don’t accept and look at with rightful disdain.
 

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I think it’s more just coming out of the closet (for lack of a better comparison). It’s always been there, they’ve always been there. Most people just weren’t aware or weren’t aware the extent of the issue. Due to my profession I wasn’t among them.

I don’t see a push for pedo acceptance. I haven’t seen pedos portrayed in a positive light outside of some random fringe groups that have been around to some extent for a long time and the vast majority of people don’t accept and look at with rightful disdain.
I think due to the major push ped-agenda is receiving, there are child predators being created at alarming rates. People whom may have had no inclination towards this activity are certainly being directed to it and encouraged by the modern ped-push.

If you can look at Disney, Nickelodeon, ABC Family and etc. and not see the outrageous, blatant push for the sexualization of the youth in general and their being pushed as sexual objects for adults in specific, Im not sure there is anything left for this convo other than to agree to disagree.
 
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There is a difference between the objectification and sexualization of children and a push to normalize p***philia. They do it for the pedophiles benefit, but they are well aware pedophiles are never going to be accepted.

Do you seriously think 100’s of millions of parents are just going to be like “yeah sure pedophiles are okay?” We are raising the age of consent all over, outlawing child marriages.. if anything the LEGAL and even mainstream social position on the issue is getting even less accepting. Whereas 50 years ago you might have had 25% of the population think it was okay for a 15 year old girl to date a 20 year old man, and 60% say it was okay for a 15 year old boy.. those percentages are going down. (I don’t actually know the percentages or if anyone has even studied/polled this but it is my impression).

My grandmother met her husband when she was 12 and he was 30. This was perfectly normal at that time apparantly. She would have died on the spot before being okay with that for her grandkids. This is the dynamic I’ve seen played out.

So yes, kids are being more sexualized and objectified - or atleast it’s more blatant now, but that does not mean p***phile acceptance is around the corner.
 

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There is a difference between the objectification and sexualization of children and a push to normalize p***philia. They do it for the pedophiles benefit, but they are well aware pedophiles are never going to be accepted.

Do you seriously think 100’s of millions of parents are just going to be like “yeah sure pedophiles are okay?” We are raising the age of consent all over, outlawing child marriages.. if anything the LEGAL and even mainstream social position on the issue is getting even less accepting. Whereas 50 years ago you might have had 25% of the population think it was okay for a 15 year old girl to date a 20 year old man, and 60% say it was okay for a 15 year old boy.. those percentages are going down. (I don’t actually know the percentages or if anyone has even studied/polled this but it is my impression).

My grandmother met her husband when she was 12 and he was 30. This was perfectly normal at that time apparantly. She would have died on the spot before being okay with that for her grandkids. This is the dynamic I’ve seen played out.

So yes, kids are being more sexualized and objectified - or atleast it’s more blatant now, but that does not mean p***phile acceptance is around the corner.
I havnt stated its around the corner, but the push for it to be is already in our faces.
If you are looking for modern laws to make sense of this I think you are barking up the wrong tree. For examples, these same lawmakers will attempt to outlaw child marriage (rightfully so) while simultaneously attempting to make child prostitution a "victimless" crime. To quote Johnny "Guitar" Watson..... "Aint that cold?"
 

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I havnt stated its around the corner, but the push for it to be is already in our faces.
If you are looking for modern laws to make sense of this I think you are barking up the wrong tree. For examples, these same lawmakers will attempt to outlaw child marriage (rightfully so) while simultaneously attempting to make child prostitution a "victimless" crime. To quote Johnny "Guitar" Watson..... "Aint that cold?"
Can you provide a link to the child prostitution thing? I haven’t seen that.

The laws are put in place to appease the people - because the people are disgusted by pedophiles. I am under no delusion that they are a reflection of the ruling classes actual beliefs/actions. Quite the opposite.. deflection.

However, because that deflection is SO necessary because of the overwhelmingly negative position towards pedolphilia of us common folks, I am not worried about p***philia being “normalized” - atleast not within my lifetime, probably not my children’s either. That does not mean it will not continue. It will. It always has. But Joe Schmo isn’t going to be okay with it because Hannah Montana is shaking around on the tv. The amount of mental mindfucking that would need to occur and be constantly sustained to create a state of mass cognitive dissonance of that magnitude is not within our current capabilities, IMO.
 

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Can you provide a link to the child prostitution thing? I haven’t seen that.

The laws are put in place to appease the people - because the people are disgusted by pedophiles. I am under no delusion that they are a reflection of the ruling classes actual beliefs/actions. Quite the opposite.. deflection.

However, because that deflection is SO necessary because of the overwhelmingly negative position towards pedolphilia of us common folks, I am not worried about p***philia being “normalized” - atleast not within my lifetime, probably not my children’s either. That does not mean it will not continue. It will. It always has. But Joe Schmo isn’t going to be okay with it because Hannah Montana is shaking around on the tv. The amount of mental mindfucking that would need to occur and be constantly sustained to create a state of mass cognitive dissonance of that magnitude is not within our current capabilities, IMO.
Miley Ray Cyrus' career is a PRIME example of children being offered up to adults as sexual beings. The last time the child prostitution thing was discussed on VC was a California law that was supposed to de-criminalize the underage victims of human sexual trafficking. Apparently it had to be amended (or perhaps halted altogether? Havent seen any updates lately) because the public caught on to the fact that it basically offered blanket amnesty for both the victim and the trick.
 

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Miley Ray Cyrus' career is a PRIME example of children being offered up to adults as sexual beings. The last time the child prostitution thing was discussed on VC was a California law that was supposed to de-criminalize the underage victims of human sexual trafficking. Apparently it had to be amended (or perhaps halted altogether? Havent seen any updates lately) because the public caught on to the fact that it basically offered blanket amnesty for both the victim and the trick.
I never once disagreed that children are being sexualized and objectified. I disagree that this is going to lead to the normalization of p***philia.

The law passed. There was nothing in the law that changed anything regarding the Johns or the pimps. What it did was decriminalize prostitution for the child so that instead of going to jail they were given social services.
 

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I never once disagreed that children are being sexualized and objectified. I disagree that this is going to lead to the normalization of p***philia.

The law passed. There was nothing in the law that changed anything regarding the Johns or the pimps. What it did was decriminalize prostitution for the child so that instead of going to jail they were given social services.
Its already leading to the normalization of it, the question is will society continue to allow it or stand against/turn their backs on this sad, sick agenda.

My understanding is that the final law that was passed by the Cali state house was something very different than what was originally drafted for consideration,
 
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