Lisa
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I think I’d be wondering about my archaic version more than the new stuff, honestly. Just because it’s old doesn’t mean it’s more right.It’s definitely part of the problem. For some reason the NASB is translating the Greek word for us (hēmas) as them, and the word for we shall reign (basileuō) as they will reign.
There is no reason for anyone to translate those words in the way the NASB has in that passage. Greek is an exact language, and the words us and we mean exactly that.
Do you see why Red, myself, and others don’t tend to trust some of the other versions? It’s stuff like this.
The NIV and the ESV all side with the NASB and it also goes better with the verse you dislike about the dead in Christ rise first. The elders aren’t raptured in a pre trib rapture. They have been there with God and later on the raptured saints show up and that when John sees a multitude. He doesn’t see the multitude when he first gets there.
It also fits with...
1 Thessalonians 4:15
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
Because that doesn’t happen until..
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.
Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.