@Thunderian
Forgive me, I had forgotten about that. However, since you're again making the false statement that a person needs to be baptized to be saved, I think I get a pass on asking the question again.
If I'm making a false statement then that means so is Jesus who I quoted above. You're calling Him a liar because He said we have to be baptised to be saved. Below there will be more scripture on baptism. If you'd forgotten you asked me the question then that's okay.
I'm sorry, but this is such utter garbage. If baptism is necessary for salvation, then it's necessary for everyone -- not just those who are able to get around to it. Does God also give special dispensations to those who can't find the time to accept Jesus Christ? Think about what you're saying, for a change.
You are the one who is posting utter garbage here If you think one example of someone not getting baptised in the Bible because they were hanging on a cross and could not get down from it, exempts you and others from baptism.
The Bible says that salvation is obtained by faith in Jesus Christ, and not by any work. Baptism is clearly a work, and therefore, cannot be necessary for salvation. When you say baptism is necessary for salvation, but then say that, in special cases, it is not, based on no criteria other than "God understands the heart, and he'll make it all right", you stand the risk of veering into universalist doctrine.
Salvation is a process. It doesn't stop at just accepting Him.
Matthew 28:18-20, "And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying,
“All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always,
even to the end of the age.” Amen."
John 4:1-3, "Therefore, when the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John (though Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples), He left Judea and departed again to Galilee."
Acts 2:38, "Then Peter said to them,
“Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
Christ Is Preached to an Ethiopian Acts 8:26-40
Now an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip, saying, “Arise and go toward the south along the road which goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” This is desert. So he arose and went. And behold, a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace the queen of the Ethiopians, who had charge of all her treasury, and had come to Jerusalem to worship, was returning. And sitting in his chariot, he was reading Isaiah the prophet. Then the Spirit said to Philip, “Go near and overtake this chariot.” So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him. The place in the Scripture which he read was this:
“He was led as a sheep to the slaughter;
And as a lamb before its shearer
is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.
In His humiliation His justice was taken away,
And who will declare His generation?
For His life is taken from the earth.”
So the eunuch answered Philip and said, “I ask you, of whom does the prophet say this, of himself or of some other man?” Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning at this Scripture, preached Jesus to him.
Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, “See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?” Then Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.” So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing. But Philip was found at Azotus. And passing through, he preached in all the cities till he came to Caesarea.
Acts 18:8, "Then Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his household.
And many of the Corinthians, hearing, believed and were baptized."
Acts 22:16, "And now why are you waiting?
Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord."
1 Peter 3:21, "There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ."
Whenever someone repented and believed in Christ, they got baptised but according to you its unnecessary. That is not according to God's Word is it? I will believe God over you. He is the one who saved us and told us the conditions after all!
Edit: More verses about baptism.
Matthew 3:16-17, John 3:23, Romans 6:3-6, 1 Corinthians 12:12-14, 20, 27, Galatians 3:27, Colossians 2:12. For something unnecessary the Bible says quite a lot about it.
You clearly don't understand how faith and works are connected because you don't want to. If baptism is a work then why did Jesus get baptised? Do you think anything Jesus did was a waste of time? He even told the disciples to continue baptising people in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Why?
There is one clear demand made by God for an unbeliever to be granted salvation: Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. It doesn't say, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, get baptised, have a minister lay hands on you to receive the Spirit of God, endure to the end, and then thou shalt be saved."
Belief is not enough. Its important but there are other conditions to being saved as the Bible clearly teaches. Or we won't be different from the demons that believe too will we? If you’ve studied your Bible, you probably realise that we must look at a number of verses scattered throughout the Bible to get the whole picture on a subject. We must look at all the Bible says on a subject to come to a proper understanding of it. So you're wrong.
Put me on ignore if you hate having to defend your mangling of the word of God, but I am enjoined by the Holy Spirit inside me to call you out on your lies, and I will follow his urging, and not yours.
I defend the truth of God's Word (and its unpopular because it contradicts many doctrines taught in Christianity that are false) and many times on here you defend your doctrine not God's Word.
That is not the Holy Spirit Thunderian. You always do this. You always reject the plain teaching of the Bible to defend and justify your false doctrines. I have shown you scripture upon scripture above about baptism, so its up to you now whether you will accept it or reject it. Whether you will follow Christ's example or not. The thief on the cross not getting baptised does not cancel out all those that got and do get baptised including Jesus and everything that the Bible says about it.
And I might put you on ignore permanently because it gets tedious locking horns with you over the plain word of God all the time.
