Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[SHinEeHeaven]

Guys, please, this is not a political or a religious (per se) thread, so let's try to keep our views on those matters as neutral as possible. In my opinion, pre marital sex is perfectly fine (within reason) and there is no reason for people to demonize it, since it's as natural as the rest of bodily functions. Of course there is a spiritual aspect to it, but not everyone is religious/spiritual. But I don't follow any organized religion so that's only my point of view. Of course there would be different views on this and they must all be respected in the same way but let's respect them equally without pushing our opinions on others. I am glad that so many people here, who have totally different backgrounds, came on to this site to discuss further their concerns, but it would be better to stick to the subject, which is kp0p, just my 2 cents.

Premarital sex is not perfectly fine..all religions clearly against for a reason..you can have your opinion of course but just saying mine..any way, premarital sex is disastrous its illuminati dream for society to become like that..so there satanic sex rituals would be accepted..that's why discussing this any where online very much hated..society has brainwashed to accept it..just my two cent

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Again, I’m not arguing, I’m just interested in why you think that. Do you believe he has let his fans down?

He has broke the Korean ethics of not having child before marriage and military..they have every right to oppose it..unlike what the ifans are doing..forcing there opinion on Koreans forgetting it's there society..they have the right to protest bcz if this gone without nothing ..more and more Korean there would think he is good role models and it's cool to do that..so yeah

 

[Bubble_tea]

Premarital sex is not perfectly fine..all religions clearly against for a reason..you can have your opinion of course but just saying mine..any way, premarital sex is disastrous its illuminati dream for society to become like that..so there satanic sex rituals would be accepted..that's why discussing this any where online very much hated..society has brainwashed to accept it..just my two cent

Yes dear, I totally get your point. For me, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, I believe that sex is a spiritual practice for the most part, and it's a exchange of energies, and this is why the elites use sex magic too. I am mainly esoteric and I have studied extensively enough their practises. So women especially have to be extra careful as men want to absorb and manipulate that said energy.That's one of the main reasons why organized religions want to control women's body also, it's solely for opportunistic reasons in my opinion . Also, part of the reason why the elites promote sexual freedom is to spiritually weaken the spirit ( we are having a spiritual war anywho) and create depopulation by having people addicted only to the act of sex without any prospects of procreation. That being said, I still belive that sex is perfectly natural and not a bad thing at all, but I acknowledge that the elites want to twist everything for their own benefit as always.
I know that this is only my opinion but I understand your viewpoints, I am grown enough to respect everyone's culture and values and I truly enjoy sharing opinions with all of you

He has broke the Korean ethics of not having child before marriage and military..they have every right to oppose it..unlike what the ifans are doing..forcing there opinion on Koreans forgetting it's there society..they have the right to protest bcz if this gone without nothing ..more and more Korean there would think he is good role models and it's cool to do that..so yeah

Even though I don't agree with Korea's mentality, I actually agree with you, because no one has the right to force their own's ethnic backround and values onto others. Koreans have a different perspective on things, so unless it's harmful to people or unconstitutional/violates human rights, it would be fascist to try to impose our opinions on them. Koreans have a totally different state of mind and whether they want to change it or not, it's their own business. Maybe this was an attempt for the government to increase their birth rates in any way possible through normalizing pre marital pregnancy, because their birth rates are dangerously suffering. I don't know if I'm right, just trying to see the situation here through their eyes.

 

[Cherry14]

Personally if I were his fan meaning I Had a crush on him, if he were my bias etc. I would be sad and dissapointed, cause it shatters the image I Had of him, to some level one would feel betrayed, that is why kpop companies prohibit or hide their relationships, so that the connection between them and the fans stays strong, cause sincerely after these news it just makes it extremely easy to stop consuming their product, that is why I find it a little weird, cause obviously it would have a negative impact.
I would prefer 100 times to know if they are dating someone, but that isn't going to happen since they need full loyalty from the fans

 

[Bubble_tea]

Personally if I were his fan meaning I Had a crush on him, if he were my bias etc. I would be sad and dissapointed, cause it shatters the image I Had of him, to some level one would feel betrayed, that is why kpop companies prohibit or hide their relationships, so that the connection between them and the fans stays strong, cause sincerely after these news it just makes it extremely easy to stop consuming their product, that is why I find it a little weird, cause obviously it would have a negative impact.
I would prefer 100 times to know if they are dating someone, but that isn't going to happen since they need full loyalty from the fans

Yes, I understand what you're saying and I believe that it's not entirely Korean fans' fault that they feel this way. Companies encourage and promote this obsessive behavior and pushes the "boyfriend/girlfriend image" on them, many groups go as far as to say that they never had a significant other and their fans are their only true girlfriends/boyfriends, so it creates illusions in their fans' minds, especially if their underage, which is the main age group they are targeting for. These companies have to understand that this is extremely harmful not only to the fans but the idols themselves as they are obliged to live a totally fake and repressed life forever.

 

[Cherry14]

Yes, I understand what you're saying and I believe that it's not entirely Korean fans' fault that they feel this way. Companies encourage and promote this obsessive behavior and pushes the "boyfriend/girlfriend image" on them, many groups go as far as to say that they never had a significant other and their fans are their only true girlfriends/boyfriends, so it creates illusions in their fans' minds, especially if their underage, which is the main age group they are targeting for. These companies have to understand that this is extremely harmful not only to the fans but the idols themselves as they are obliged to live a total fake and repressed life forever.

Exactly, but my point is that since S m isn't caring that much about them, then this comes out, I mean sincerely they could have hide easily if they wanted to

 

[Bubble_tea]

Exactly, but my point is that since S m isn't caring that much about them, then this comes out, I mean sincerely they could have hide easily if they wanted to

I've read an article by korean fans that Ch3n was preparing for his marriage for months now so for many of them weren't exactly huge news either as they knew it beforehand. When a scandal about an idol breaks out, many fans/sasaengs, are so pissed that they release more info on this specific idol because they feel they have let them down, and want to tarnish their image.

Many fans know that most idols are dirty, but they decide to protect and maintain their image, until they get seriously angry about something, then they release all the dirt on them. Usually, they think that idols can do whatever they want unless they feel that they themselves don't care for their image and become reckless, it's so oxymoron to me. So, if Ch3n were to hide the marriage, I am sure that some of those enraged fans/or sasaeng would have spilled the beans about them and it would cause more harm to his image, as others would have thought that he was keeping secrets from them all this time, it's a complete paranoia if you ask me.

 

[Hon33]

I have recently been reading about the low rate of marriage and births in Korea.
I can’t help but think that one of the reasons behind this is the fact that all young men are required to do military service.
I understand why they want them to do it, but it must be hugely disruptive in the lives of young people both in terms of relationship and their careers.
Korea has one of the highest rates of infertility and this has to be connected to the fact that many couples who do marry don’t do so until they are in their 30s. However at age 30, female fertility starts to decline drastically with every year.
The 20s for most countries, are the tears in which men and women form relationships, build careers, get married and eventually have children. Yet in Korea, young men have to put all that on hold to complete military service. I know that technically the country is still at war, so they see this as essential. However maybe it is time to look at other ways to either enforce military service or recruit to the military? If being in the military was a more attractive career choice, rather than something everyone is forced to do, people might choose it as a career. Perhaps young men should go straight from school to the military, leaving them free to follow their chosen career because they finish it earlier.

 

[Bubble_tea]

I have recently been reading about the low rate of marriage and births in Korea.
I can’t help but think that one of the reasons behind this is the fact that all young men are required to do military service.
I understand why they want them to do it, but it must be hugely disruptive in the lives of young people both in terms of relationship and their careers.
Korea has one of the highest rates of infertility and this has to be connected to the fact that many couples who do marry don’t do so until they are in their 30s. However at age 30, female fertility starts to decline drastically with every year.
The 20s for most countries, are the tears in which men and women form relationships, build careers, get married and eventually have children. Yet in Korea, young men have to put all that on hold to complete military service. I know that technically the country is still at war, so they see this as essential. However maybe it is time to look at other ways to either enforce military service or recruit to the military? If being in the military was a more attractive career choice, rather than something everyone is forced to do, people might choose it as a career. Perhaps young men should go straight from school to the military, leaving them free to follow their chosen career because they finish it earlier.

I think that the most prevalent problem is the gender inequality and economy as many of them are struggling to survive in such antagonistic and demanding society.
As for the military, I live in a country that is mandatory for men to enlist for 8 months to 1 year (some years ago it was 2 years also) so I kinda get it. My country is basically a war zone and I live in Europe so there is no way to avoid it, people need to be ready for an upcoming attack at any time,so there isn't such an option. In case it wasn't mandatory, very few people would have chosen to go into the army for an occupation. But yes, it would be best if they went straight from school, they would definitely be more free to live their lives how they really wanted to.

On marriage, statistics have shown that most of the young people in the world nowadays don't want to marry and view marriage as obsolete. Also because of the economy and gender rights many people want to study first for their own well-being, build a career so if they get married, they do it later in life. Many countries in Europe including my own see it as abnormal to marry in their 20's and prefer to do it in their 30's. And personally I think they are right because many people need to become emotionally mature first (while they aren't) in order to have kids, and this is a big decision that requires mental stability, this is why many children have psychological issues in the first place and it's certainly not their fault.

 

[Hon33]

I think that the most prevalent problem is the gender inequality and economy as many of them are struggling to survive in such antagonistic and demanding society.
As for the military, I live in a country that is mandatory for men to enlist for 8 months to 1 year (some years ago it was 2 years also) so I kinda get it. My country is basically a war zone and I live in Europe so there is no way to avoid it, people need to be ready for an upcoming attack at any time,so there isn't such an option. In case it wasn't mandatory, very few people would have chosen to go into the army for an occupation. But yes, it would be best if they went straight from school, they would definitely be more free to live their lives how they really wanted to.

On marriage, statistics have shown that most of the young people in the world nowadays don't want to marry and view marriage as obsolete. Also because of the economy and gender rights many people want to study first for their own well-being, build a career so if they get married, they do it later in life. Many countries in Europe including my own see it as abnormal to marry in their 20's and prefer to do it in their 30's. And personally I think they are right because many people need to become emotionally mature first (while they aren't) in order to have kids, and this is a big decision that requires mental stability, this is why many children have psychological issues in the first place and it's certainly not their fault.

Yes, I see what you are saying. I too live in a small part of the UK, which for many years has been deeply divided by religion. I’m sure you can probably guess where I mean without me explicitly saying where it is. However, the UK doesn’t require anyone to complete military service despite being involved in many conflicts around the world. Being in the military here is considered by most, as a highly esteemed career. I understand though, that is not the case in every country.
I feel it is very important for girls and young women to have the opportunity to establish themselves before marrying and having children. However, that doesn’t work well alongside the biological fact that fertility begins to decrease at the age of 30. I married at age 24, which was quite young. However, I have a very respectful and loving husband who never held me back but always encouraged me. I had my eldest daughter when I was 28 and my youngest when I was 31. I was well established in my career as a nurse and had a senior position. I never imagined for one minute that I wouldn’t continue to work - and I did until I had my younger daughter. For various reasons due to my older daughter’s health, I then decided to stay at home with them because she needed me. I did however keep up many interests outside of that. I continued to volunteer with a prominent organisation for girls and young women that exists not only in the UK, but around the world, that focuses on female empowerment. So gender equality is important to me, although I do not consider myself a feminist. I had to give it up when I became ill but I will return to it when my health improves.
I know some of you consider me too old for a forum like this. You shouldn’t. There are many women who are interested in the culture of younger people and want to understand about it because they care. I might not share all your views but I can rationally discuss things and take on board your opinion.
You are clearly a very intelligent, eloquent, young lady Bubble_tea. I admire that.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Exactly, but my point is that since S m isn't caring that much about them, then this comes out, I mean sincerely they could have hide easily if they wanted to

I know for 100% sure that there is agenda behind this news and yes if they wanted to hide it could have been easily done...my guess if u were to ask me, is that they want to break exo for some reason may be more exol leave and become army..more to bts plus promoting the idea of adultery + child before marriage..its like two strike for one rock..I think there is more into this and time might reveal it

 

[Bubble_tea]

Yes, I see what you are saying. I too live in a small part of the UK, which for many years has been deeply divided by religion. I’m sure you can probably guess where I mean without me explicitly saying where it is. However, the UK doesn’t require anyone to complete military service despite being involved in many conflicts around the world. Being in the military here is considered by most, as a highly esteemed career. I understand though, that is not the case in every country.
I feel it is very important for girls and young women to have the opportunity to establish themselves before marrying and having children. However, that doesn’t work well alongside the biological fact that fertility begins to decrease at the age of 30. I married at age 24, which was quite young. However, I have a very respectful and loving husband who never held me back but always encouraged me. I had my eldest daughter when I was 28 and my youngest when I was 31. I was well established in my career as a nurse and had a senior position. I never imagined for one minute that I wouldn’t continue to work - and I did until I had my younger daughter. For various reasons due to my older daughter’s health, I then decided to stay at home with them because she needed me. I did however keep up many interests outside of that. I continued to volunteer with a prominent organisation for girls and young women that exists not only in the UK, but around the world, that focuses on female empowerment. So gender equality is important to me, although I do not consider myself a feminist. I had to give it up when I became ill but I will return to it when my health improves.
I know some of you consider me too old for a forum like this. You shouldn’t. There are many women who are interested in the culture of younger people and want to understand about it because they care. I might not share all your views but I can rationally discuss things and take on board your opinion.
You are clearly a very intelligent, eloquent, young lady Bubble_tea. I admire that.

Yes yes, and if I understood correctly, I think that your place is absolutely beautiful and full of gorgeous nature. Also, I will never stop finding interesting how various cultures work, because in my country being in the military as a choice of living is highly frowned upon and is publicly condemnable as my country tends to be more left-leaning. But personally I believe that aside from politics, those people are praiseworthy because they risk their lives for the country almost everyday willingly. (for example here, we have aerial piracy every so often).

Exactly, women had been oppressed for so long and always dedicated themselves to others so much that they almost forgot that they are a person first and foremost and every other role (mother, wife, sister etc) has to come after that. So emotional/economical independence and courage are very important characteristics for a woman to have. I found your personal story very encouraging and sweet , I believe that you are truly lucky and blessed to have such a wonderful and thoughtful husband and believe me, this is not a given unfortunately. People nowadays(even in the old times) don't know how to connect and respect each other's personal will and marriage is a constant effort and fight for the both sides and not many people have an intention to do that.I also find it so great that you took so much of your time to help raise awareness of the female empowerment,to me, this is exactly how a proper maternal role model should be, in order to change parts of the world little by little, I believe that all generations have to come together for that cause, putting our disagreements aside, and then, the result will be beautiful.

Yes, I think you are right, thank you for tuly making me see things from your side of the story. It's fairly important for other generations to make themselves included in their children's preferences, as it creates a strong bond by showing them that they understand them. Also, it can be didactic too, because parents can share with them their opinions and wise advises based on their own experiences/knowledge of life on what to be careful about or not and guide them throughout life.

Omg, thank you so much dear for your lovely words, it really means so much, although I don't think I deserve it. I believe I still have a lot to learn about, but I'm trying to look into things in depth and not always be affected by public opinions, that's why I'm on this site and I definitely am with you on that as you don't have to agree with everything we say, I don't agree with everything others say either, but I believe that's the magical aspect of it, even though we don't always agree, by discussing our views we still exchange opinions and communicate and we actually take more info in, process it (and sometimes change our views) , than we can imagine.


Oh my, sorry for the long post!

 

[Hon33]

Yes yes, and if I understood correctly, I think that your place is absolutely beautiful and full of gorgeous nature. Also, I will never stop finding interesting how various cultures work, because in my country being in the military as a choice of living is highly frowned upon and is publicly condemnable as my country tends to be more left-leaning. But personally I believe that aside from politics, those people are praiseworthy because they risk their lives for the country almost everyday willingly. (for example here, we have aerial piracy every so often).

Exactly, women had been oppressed for so long and always dedicated themselves to others so much that they almost forgot that they are a person first and foremost and every other role (mother, wife, sister etc) has to come after that. So emotional/economical independence and courage are very important characteristics for a woman to have. I found your personal story very encouraging and sweet , I believe that you are truly lucky and blessed to have such a wonderful and thoughtful husband and believe me, this is not a given unfortunately. People nowadays(even in the old times) don't know how to connect and respect each other's personal will and marriage is a constant effort and fight for the both sides and not many people have an intention to do that.I also find it so great that you took so much of your time to help raise awareness of the female empowerment,to me, this is exactly how a proper maternal role model should be, in order to change parts of the world little by little, I believe that all generations have to come together for that cause, putting our disagreements aside, and then, the result will be beautiful.

Yes, I think you are right, thank you for tuly making me see things from your side of the story. It's fairly important for other generations to make themselves included in their children's preferences, as it creates a strong bond by showing them that they understand them. Also, it can be didactic too, because parents can share with them their opinions and wise advises based on their own experiences/knowledge of life on what to be careful about or not and guide them throughout life.

Omg, thank you so much dear for your lovely words, it really means so much, although I don't think I deserve it. I believe I still have a lot to learn about, but I'm trying to look into things in depth and not always be affected by public opinions, that's why I'm on this site and I definitely am with you on that as you don't have to agree with everything we say, I don't agree with everything others say either, but I believe that's the magical aspect of it, even though we don't always agree, by discussing our views we still exchange opinions and communicate and we actually take more info in, process it (and sometimes change our views) , than we can imagine.


Oh my, sorry for the long post!

I do live in a truly beautiful country. Despite all our difficulties we have many lovely, good people here.
I am sorry I got off to a bad start with some of you by arguing. I really do find it interesting to read what you say. Even if I don’t always agree, it is still interesting to learn about other cultures and other generations to understand how they think.

 

[Bubble_tea]

I do live in a truly beautiful country. Despite all our difficulties we have many lovely, good people here.
I am sorry I got off to a bad start with some of you by arguing. I really do find it interesting to read what you say. Even if I don’t always agree, it is still interesting to learn about other cultures and other generations to understand how they think.

Don't mention it at all love, it's forgive and forget I am really sorry too if I crossed over the line in any way, I didn't truly mean to and I think the arguments that took place in here was a matter of misunderstanding that went wrong. I feel relieved now bc I can't hide the fact that this whole situation got me sad, I want everyone here to get along despite our differences. Yes, I totally agree, it's certainly interesting and I have learned so much from all of you and your cultures, and that made me wiser. Let's have a better continuity from now on, all of us~~

 

[lightmightgirl]

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/01/go-eun-ah-reveals-her-past-agency-once-hit-her-with-baseball-bat-as-punishment Not only did her former agency harass her, they kept her under strong and constant surveillance (without consent) also they assaulted her. Goes to say that even if she was dating someone or was invited by another person to go out, why would they go to these extremes, even if a contract was broken... ?

 

[Skittle567]

I think Jongdae are no more in EXO

K EXO-L’s Begin Boycott Against EXO’s Chen And Demands Withdrawal From Group

K EXO-L's have started to make hashtags, online communities, and accounts to try and work together to protest and have EXO's Chen withdraw from the group.

www.koreaboo.com

I was talking about him existing the group in other website, and the white Ifans bashed me hardly, called me all kind of names lol, let them now deal with this,...I like seeing them so pissed..they believe Korea is there property lol..Kfans will teach them a lesson

But I don't understand what the big deal is, he got married so what? They believe that these Kpop "idols" are their property, when in reality they're not. The delusion is truly real among the Ifans and Kfans. Not trying to offend anyone, but both Ifans & Kfans need to stop acting like these adults aka "Kpop idols" belong to them. They're just as human as the rest of us. smh this stuff really gives me a headache. lol sorry for going on a rant, it just irritates me how people are wasting time of their lives that they can't get back, debating about someones life, like they are in charge of how Kpop idols live it.

 

[Skittle567]

yes I think so

why though? just because he's getting married? being apart of exo is basically his job.

 

[Chibi Maruko Schweetz]

BTS has new song named "Black Swan" and you know it's suspicious obviously (~￣³￣)~

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1218131337372229634

 

[thuder]

a series..

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Something is being cooked from behind the scene for EXO I believe

Nature Republic Announces Termination of EXO's Contract After 7-Year-Long Collaboration

The Korean beauty brand, Nature Republic recently made the announcement that they'll be terminating their contract with EXO this coming February.

www.koreaboo.com