Did Iran shoot down Flight PS752?

Pan

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I thought you said I was Jewish? Now I’m a goblin...lol!

You guys are hilarious in that you have a lot of imagination about ordinary people.
There's nothing ordinary about your devotion to the Father of Lies, Lisa.

You're a Goblin with a Jewish name. How is that related? I know plenty of nice people with Jewish names too.
 

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There's nothing ordinary about your devotion to the Father of Lies, Lisa.

You're a Goblin with a Jewish name. How is that related? I know plenty of nice people with Jewish names too.
Perhaps you could get Awoken to answer the question...of which I would be interested in his reply?
 

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Perhaps you could get Awoken to answer the question...of which I would be interested in his reply?
Awoken2 and the rest of the VC forum are more than capable of speaking for themselves.

You haven't been able to answer my question.

What's your position on the Jerusalem Post's article about Israel having the codes to Iran's missile system?

I'd suggest that you can't respond to it, so you have instead tried to derail this thread.
 

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Awoken2 and the rest of the VC forum are more than capable of speaking for themselves.

You haven't been able to answer my question.

What's your position on the Jerusalem Post's article about Israel having the codes to Iran's missile system?

I'd suggest that you can't respond to it, so you have instead tried to derail this thread.
I already explained that I’m not in this argument, just wondering about awoken’s answer.
 

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I already explained that I’m not in this argument, just wondering about awoken’s answer.
Then make a new thread about it. If Awoken2 is like me, then we are both amused by low-rent Gatekeepers feeding this forum unsophisticated propaganda.

The topic of this thread is the shooting down of Flight 752 by Iran. I have introduced new information that suggests Israel has the codes to Iran's missile defence system.

You are a Zionist so this information should be of interest to you. If I was you, I would feel very comforted to know that Iran's missiles are actually No Threat to Israel (because Israel has the codes), and that this is all theatre.
 

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According to the article above, from Jerusalem Post, Israel has the codes to Iran's Missile Defence System.

Is this article Fake News?

Don't let Lisa and Thunderian distract you @Awoken2

The Jerusalem Post said it first:

Why would Russia give the codes to the enemies of their ally (Iran)? The article mentions Stratfor as a source, which I think may intentionally put out disinfo. I'd take the "info" with a grain of salt.

"Could there be any truth to the claims? It is unlikely that Russia would intentionally give IFF codes to the enemies of its allies, the Syrians and Iranians, and allow them to be bombed with impunity. Not only would that anger the Syrian government, it would also potentially endanger Russian troops operating in Syria."

 

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Then make a new thread about it. If Awoken2 is like me, then we are both amused by low-rent Gatekeepers feeding this forum unsophisticated propaganda.
Lisa should start another thread when you were the one who introduced the concept of Iran as Israel’s golem into this thread? Why do you find it so sinister that someone asks a person their opinion of something that’s already being discussed?

It’s a pretty startling thing to say, and since those other posters liked your post about it, I wondered if they really knew what they were signing up for, because, to be frank, I think you’re a total fruitcake, but I didn’t think those guys were. Now I’m not sure. This is their chance to set the record straight. Not sure why they don’t take it. I would.
 

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Why would Russia give the codes to the enemies of their ally (Iran)? The article mentions Stratfor as a source, which I think may intentionally put out disinfo. I'd take the "info" with a grain of salt.

"Could there be any truth to the claims? It is unlikely that Russia would intentionally give IFF codes to the enemies of its allies, the Syrians and Iranians, and allow them to be bombed with impunity. Not only would that anger the Syrian government, it would also potentially endanger Russian troops operating in Syria."

Russia is in on this game too. It is actually China and Russia who are building much of the infrastructure for the New World Order with their One Belt One Road initiative;


The New World Order is very much centred on the Eurasian landmass, which has unbelievable mineral resources in the 'Stan's (Kazakhstan and Azerbaijanin in particular).

China has long been a partner of the NWO. Russia practically invented many of the modern psychological warfare techniques leading up to and during the Cold War. Putin is ex-KGB, which means that he is a Master of Deception.

China is already giving us a demonstration of what this NWO System will be like with their current Social Credit System. China, Russia and Iran form an axis of controlled opposition which is used present a fake paradigm to the Plebs, much like the Right Wing/Left Wing paradigm. It's a false dialectic.

The real war is being orchestrated by the Global Elites against the minds of the Global Peasantry. Nations don't matter anymore. This is now about control of the planet. The peasants of all countries are in the same boat.
 
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Lisa should start another thread when you were the one who introduced the concept of Iran as Israel’s golem into this thread? Why do you find it so sinister that someone asks a person their opinion of something that’s already being discussed?

It’s a pretty startling thing to say, and since those other posters liked your post about it, I wondered if they really knew what they were signing up for, because, to be frank, I think you’re a total fruitcake, but I didn’t think those guys were. Now I’m not sure. This is their chance to set the record straight. Not sure why they don’t take it. I would.
Iran is literally a Golem, in light of this information. I have posted an article which shows that Israel has the codes to Iran's Missiles. This is literally the definition of a "Golem" - Puppeteering a manufactured enemy.

Here it is again, in case you missed it;


If you can explain this, then I take back what I said about you being a low-level Freemason.

If you answer it well then I might promote you to a mid rank low-level Freemason instead ;)
 

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Russia is in on this game too. It is actually China and Russia who are building much of the infrastructure for the New World Order with their One Belt One Road initiative;


The New World Order is very much centred on the Eurasian landmass, which has unbelievable minerals resources in the 'Stan's (Kazakhstan and Azerbaijanin particular).

China has long been a partner of the NWO. Russia practically invented many of the modern psychological warfare techniques leading up to and during the Cold War. Putin is ex-KGB, which means that he is a Master of Deception.

China is already giving us a demonstration of what this NWO System will be like with their current Social Credit System. China, Russia and Iran form an axis of controlled opposition which is used present a fake paradigm to the Plebs, much like the Right Wing/Left Wing paradigm. It's a false dialectic.

The real war is being orchestrated by the Global Elites against the minds of the Global Peasantry. Nations don't matter anymore. This is now about control of the planet. The peasants of all countries are in the same boat.
Wait, I thought Israel was the "mastermind" of all the NWO according to you. You seem to be changing goalposts a lot.
 

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Iran is literally a Golem, in light of this information. I have posted an article which shows that Israel has the codes to Iran's Missiles. This is literally the definition of a "Golem" - Puppeteering a manufactured enemy.

Here it is again, in case you missed it;


If you can explain this, then I take back what I said about you being a low-level Freemason.

If you answer it well then I might promote you to a mid rank low-level Freemason instead ;)
I’m not interested in debating that stupidity. I’m more curious how many posters here agree with you. I doubt a yes or no answer will change their status with the Freemasons.
 

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Wait, I thought Israel was the "mastermind" of all the NWO according to you. You seem to be changing goalposts a lot.
Occult Jews run the NWO at the top. Israel/America/London/Europe are the centres of Jewish power. China and Russia are the workhouses for the Global Elite (China in particular).


China has been a Jewish Golem since Mao;

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Here's an article, written by a Jew, that describes how China was "gifted" to the USSR after WW2;

 

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Occult Jews run the NWO at the top. Israel/America/London/Europe are the centres of Jewish power. China and Russia are the workhouses for the Global Elite (China in particular).


China has been a Jewish Golem since Mao;

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Here's an article, written by a Jew, that describes how China was "gifted" to the USSR after WW2;

So let me get this straight, Israel and Russia are secretally allies? Is Putin a crypto-Jew?
 

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So let me get this straight, Israel and Russia are secretally allies? Is Putin a crypto-Jew?
Putin is ex-KGB and you will never be able to pin down who he really is. Putin is known as a master of political tactics. He is a chameleon. I think Putin exists outside of the lexicon of Known-Identities. He is a true puppet master.

Putin is allied with Satanic power, just like all Global Elites. The head of Satanic Power is Satan. Satan transmitted, apparently through Fallen Angels during Antiquity and Babylonian times, Occult information to Jews. This Occult information from Satan is basically the pinnacle of Human Enlightenment. It is where alchemy and science comes from.

Who popularised Science in the West? Francis Bacon.

Was Francis Bacon into the Occult?


Wikipedia desperately trying to cover it up.
 

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Putin is ex-KGB and you will never be able to pin down who he really is. Putin is known as a master of political tactics. He is a chameleon. I think Putin exists outside of the lexicon of Known-Identities. He is a true puppet master.

Putin is allied with Satanic power, just like all Global Elites. The head of Satanic Power is Satan. Satan transmitted, apparently through Fallen Angels during Antiquity and Babylonian times, Occult information to Jews. This Occult information from Satan is basically the pinnacle of Human Enlightenment. It is where alchemy and science comes from.
I don't disagree, but instead of seeing Jews as the puppet masters I see highly degreed freemasons who infiltrate the higher echelons of government.

This article says Putin is a Royal Arch freemason:


Netanyahu is also a known 33rd degree Scottish Rite mason:


 

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I don't disagree, but instead of seeing Jews as the puppet masters I see highly degreed freemasons who infiltrate the higher echelons of government.

This article says Putin is a Royal Arch freemason:


Netanyahu is also a known 33rd degree Scottish Rite mason:


Thanks for this information. I think our points are the same. I think the only difference we have is that I maintain that Freemasonry submits to Occult Judaism, and you say Occult Judaism submits to Freemasonry.

Jewish achievements in the realms of occult magik (leading to modern science and psychology) are actually outstanding. Look at your smart phone - It's magik. Occult Jews have learned how to control the energy of life (electricity) and have learned to animate technology. This is the real AI - Enhanced humanity through magik.

We may disagree on who controls the world (Freemasons or Occult Jews). The important thing here is we agree that the Elites of the World are united. This is a heart of the issue - Power now has a global monopoly.
 

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Time for a little tin foil
What if the plane was shot down not because it was a mistake or deliberate but what if they shot it down due to something or someone being on the plane that they didnt want leaving.
Maybe it's 2 birds with one stone.

1. Orchestrate a deliberate plane crash to demoralise Muslims and foment unnatural revolution in Iran, bringing the Iranian people into the Global System. Iran becomes Dubai.
2. Kill some of your dissidents at the same time.

I think killing dissidents is a secondary goal. There are no dissidents that currently pose a threat to the Global Elite. It's too easy to kill people these days and make it look like suicide. Look at Hillary Clinton's legacy of "suicided" dissidents. You don't need to resort to blowing up planes.

The most dangerous dissidents in Iran currently are the general population, who are asleep, and who don't realise the Iranian government are playing patsy and fighting a fake war with the West. These people must never be allowed to wake up.

I think the NWO gameplan has shifted from WW3. I would suggest that Iran's usefulness as a patsy has expired. Depopulation through War is an outmoded idea now.

The Global Elite has a new "bogeyman" that they will use to depopulate the Earth - Climate Change. They will use the climate to unite the world under their NWO system through droughts and floods, water shortages and food shortages. The Elites can actually control the weather now through weather modification technology, so they will be able to use this technology to scare the global masses into submission for years to come.

.....Or it might be War and Climate Change simultaneously, plus a Financial Crisis to top it all off. The NWO Elite have so many tools in their arsenal. They have even discussed faking an "Alien Invasion" to scare the masses into accepting the NWO;

 
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